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The article noted that Philip was born on the island of Corfu (Kyrkira), but neglected to mention that he was titled "Prince of Greece," a member of the Greek royal family, living in exile, prior to his engagement to Princess Elizabeth. His last name, "Mountbatten" was adopted at the time of his engagement, around the time that, unfortunately, he converted from Orthodoxy to Anglicanism; (in recent years he has visited the Holy Mountain, Mount Athos).
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The article noted that Philip was born on the island of Corfu (Kyrkira), but neglected to mention that he was titled "Prince of Greece," a member of the Greek royal family, living in exile, prior to his engagement to Princess Elizabeth. His last name, "Mountbatten" was adopted at the time of his engagement, around the time that, unfortunately, he converted from Orthodoxy to Anglicanism; (in recent years he has visited the Holy Mountain, Mount Athos).
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The article noted that Philip was born on the island of Corfu (Kyrkira), but neglected to mention that he was titled "Prince of Greece," a member of the Greek royal family, living in exile, prior to his engagement to Princess Elizabeth. His last name, "Mountbatten" was adopted at the time of his engagement, around the time that, unfortunately, he converted from Orthodoxy to Anglicanism; (in recent years he has visited the Holy Mountain, Mount Athos).
Very true. I've also heard that one of his sons (grandsons?) has also made regular trips to the Holy Mountain to regularly see a particular elder. There was a matched set of icons at the latest royal wedding, as well... The son in question is HRH Prince Charles. http://www.orthodoxengland.org.uk/hrh.htm |
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How uncouth to refer to Her Majesty in such as way. Just let him be. It's a well known fact that Tallitot hates Queen Elizabeth, and nothing is going to change his opinion on this. Many of us have already tried. For the record, I don't "hate" Betty Windsor (or Margrethe Glücksburg or Jigme Khesar Wangchuck) |
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« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2011, 12:43:48 AM » |
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Is it some sort of political statement you wish to make?
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Come on now he's 90. Even princes can expect to die at 90. Because he basically lived on a fancy vacation all his life , he reached an age most working people do not.
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How uncouth to refer to Her Majesty in such as way. Just let him be. It's a well known fact that Tallitot hates Queen Elizabeth, and nothing is going to change his opinion on this. Many of us have already tried. For the record, I don't "hate" Betty Windsor (or Margrethe Glücksburg or Jigme Khesar Wangchuck) Shouldn't you be too busy lighting candles or spinning dredels to have time to chorttle and shake your fist in jealousy at the British/Greek royal family? |
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Really? Can you tell us how many royals make it to 90? I remember a few: our own Mihai, Elizabeth's mother, Elizabeth herself is not far from there. I bet percentage-wise royals and others of such parasitic classes make it to 90 more than people on the southside of Chicago, for instance. |
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Really? Can you tell us how many royals make it to 90? I remember a few: our own Mihai, Elizabeth's mother, Elizabeth herself is not far from there. I bet percentage-wise royals and others of such parasitic classes make it to 90 more than people on the southside of Chicago, for instance. I personally know three on the south side who did and have met 3-4 others, so you loose. If I could remember exactly how many at the Chicago Hospitals (it was the only one in the area) were over 90 (there were a number, although I can't remember if it was over a dozen) I'd have a comfortable margin. HRH Mihai just made 90, after he participated in Moscow's victory parade for WWII. Parasitic classes? HRH wasn't a PCR member. |
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« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2011, 01:27:35 AM » |
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How uncouth to refer to Her Majesty in such as way. Just let him be. It's a well known fact that Tallitot hates Queen Elizabeth, and nothing is going to change his opinion on this. Many of us have already tried. For the record, I don't "hate" Betty Windsor (or Margrethe Glücksburg or Jigme Khesar Wangchuck) Shouldn't you be too busy lighting candles or spinning dredels to have time to chorttle and shake your fist in jealousy at the British/Greek royal family? just for the record, 2 of the persons I mentioned in my previous post aren't members of the British "royal" family. And while there is at least one other poster in this thread who doesn't feel the need to drool over Elizabeth, the Kotuku of New Zealand, I notice all the venom is saved for me. |
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« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2011, 01:30:09 AM » |
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fine, i revised my last post to refer to her by one of her proper titles. everyone happy?
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fine, i revised my last post to refer to her by one of her proper titles. everyone happy?
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« Reply #24 on: December 24, 2011, 06:56:08 AM » |
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Sorry, if you all can't appreciate the beauty of the five contradictions in Tallitot's posts on this topic, because you believe in taking Ren Fest seriously, I will light a candle for you tomorrow.
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« Reply #25 on: December 24, 2011, 07:49:09 AM » |
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fine, i revised my last post to refer to her by one of her proper titles. everyone happy?
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Thank you for bringing this to our attention. HRH and the rest of the Canadian Royal Family - which we are pleased to share with others - are being remembered in my personal prayers and in church. I appreciate that you have referred to Her Majesty by her correct family name. I understand your choice to avoid references to royal titles and styles in your writing - not an entirely bad thing as so many people get them all wrong anyway! It is good to hear that the Duke's general good health will likely contribute to a reasonably rapid recovery. |
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While royal titles are confusing, esp. to us brazen Yanks, shouldn't we be using them as honorifics just as we do for clergy and bishops - even when we may individually view one or the other as schismatic, heretic etc...? After all, if someone referred to the last Tsar by his first and familial name only, I am sure there would be an appropriate outrage posted here.
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It's hilarious.
Sorry, if you all can't appreciate the beauty of the five contradictions in Tallitot's posts on this topic, because you believe in taking Ren Fest seriously, I will light a candle for you tomorrow.
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While royal titles are confusing, esp. to us brazen Yanks, shouldn't we be using them as honorifics just as we do for clergy and bishops - even when we may individually view one or the other as schismatic, heretic etc...? After all, if someone referred to the last Tsar by his first and familial name only, I am sure there would be an appropriate outrage posted here.
Just asking.
Would there be? In this post ( http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,41869.msg684832.html#msg684832) I refer to 2 current hereditary heads of state by name, and I don't see any hand wringing re: "Oh, how uncuth, he refered to the King of Buhtan by name instead of title" "Oh, he called the Queen of Denmark 'mrs. Glucksburg...how horrible". No it's only when one blasphems Betty-May Windsor that everyone scammers around like cats in a litter box. |
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Would there be? In this post ( http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,41869.msg684832.html#msg684832) I refer to 2 current hereditary heads of state by name, and I don't see any hand wringing re: "Oh, how uncuth, he refered to the King of Buhtan by name instead of title" "Oh, he called the Queen of Denmark 'mrs. Glucksburg...how horrible". No it's only when one blasphems Betty-May Windsor that everyone scammers around like cats in a litter box. When I was a lad, in the time of the Vietnam war, I was briefly employed by Her Majesty in the Ministry of Defence. I took an oath to defend her honour which would probably oblige me to box your ears if we were in the same room. |
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Would there be? In this post ( http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,41869.msg684832.html#msg684832) I refer to 2 current hereditary heads of state by name, and I don't see any hand wringing re: "Oh, how uncuth, he refered to the King of Buhtan by name instead of title" "Oh, he called the Queen of Denmark 'mrs. Glucksburg...how horrible". No it's only when one blasphems Betty-May Windsor that everyone scammers around like cats in a litter box. When I was a lad, in the time of the Vietnam war, I was briefly employed by Her Majesty in the Ministry of Defence. I took an oath to defend her honour which would probably oblige me to box your ears if we were in the same room. Forgive him, Father, for he knows not what he does.  |
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No it's proof of how ridiculous I find the idea of a hereditary head of state.
Just remember that regardless of how ridiculous you find the idea of a hereditary head of state to be, Queen Elizabeth is still the Queen of England. but her name is still Elizabeth Mary Alexandra Windsor. besides I have refered to her by some of her titles in this thread as a courtesey. IIRC doesn't the magazine Private Eye refer to her as "Brenda"? |
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Just remember that regardless of how ridiculous you find the idea of a hereditary head of state to be, Queen Elizabeth is still the Queen of England. but her name is still Elizabeth Mary Alexandra Windsor. besides I have refered to her by some of her titles in this thread as a courtesey. IIRC doesn't the magazine Private Eye refer to her as "Brenda"? SWYP? |
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