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Re: Anyone else seen the new trailer for "The Hobbit"?
« Reply #90 on: January 01, 2013, 04:07:16 PM »
The sets had too much of a PBS by way of BBC special feel- the entire movie looked like a stage production, rather killing the all-vital for a Tolkien work "willing suspension of disbelief". The 2:48 minute running time contributed to an overbloated mess- I could possibly see a trilogy clocking in at 2 hrs each while still being enjoyable (though I still boggle at a trilogy for a kid's story that was shorter than any one of the LotR books- though the addition of lore from LotR appendices and the Silmarillion is a nice touch),
Not a nice touch. Essential to any good understanding of the story.

but there were many instances of scenery porn that could have been cut with no problem, especially given the fact that it all looked fake!

The performances were great, the songs were great, and all in all I will probably buy it in a home format- and perhaps make an edited version for private viewing with a much saner less ego-driven running time.
You're projecting a lot of your own impressions onto Peter Jackson and his crew, don't you think?
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Re: Anyone else seen the new trailer for "The Hobbit"?
« Reply #91 on: January 04, 2013, 12:06:20 AM »
For your amusement: An article from The One Ring.Net by a person who does a bit of dog sledding on Radagast's sled. Entertaining both for information on mushing and the analysis

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2013/01/03/67872-radagasts-racing-rhosgobel-rabbits-a-recreational-musher-looks-at-the-realities-of-bunny-sledding/?fb_source=pubv1


P.S.  I *like* the scenery and that it's "Co-starring New Zealand"  and that the background information was put in.
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Re: Anyone else seen the new trailer for "The Hobbit"?
« Reply #92 on: January 06, 2013, 11:49:30 PM »
I saw it this afternoon, I liked it.  I would go see it again.I did find myself doing a few  "what about...." or "Naw, didint happen THAT way''', but I tend to do that when I read and like a book, then a movie comes out that is based on that book. (It's like I forget what that phrase means-based on-LOL)
I knew it-Dudley Moore is a hobbit and must be related to Mr Baggins!  (Sorry, couldn't resist-I loved Dudley Moore, and kept seeing him in that role during the movie!  :) 

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Re: Anyone else seen the new trailer for "The Hobbit"?
« Reply #93 on: January 06, 2013, 11:54:51 PM »
Saw it the other night, didn't know they decided to split it up until I noticed it was going really slow.

They cut out someone they can't cut out...

 I feel like there was something on the Downs that was left out. They spent way too much time in Moria and it looked too fake. The scene with the eagles seemed odd since I thought that stuff occured once they were out of the mountains.

I'm left wondering how they're going to turn the journey through Mirkwood into another three hours and then another one for the Lonely Mountain stuff. If they cut out the wood Elves it will be unforgivable. It would be nice if they can somehow manage to get some of their Avari background in.
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Re: Anyone else seen the new trailer for "The Hobbit"?
« Reply #94 on: January 07, 2013, 12:22:35 AM »
Who are you referng to that was cut out? If Tom Bombadil, as perhaps, suggested by the reference to the Downs, that was in LotR not the Hobbit.
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Re: Anyone else seen the new trailer for "The Hobbit"?
« Reply #95 on: January 07, 2013, 12:36:05 AM »
The sets had too much of a PBS by way of BBC special feel- the entire movie looked like a stage production, rather killing the all-vital for a Tolkien work "willing suspension of disbelief". The 2:48 minute running time contributed to an overbloated mess- I could possibly see a trilogy clocking in at 2 hrs each while still being enjoyable (though I still boggle at a trilogy for a kid's story that was shorter than any one of the LotR books- though the addition of lore from LotR appendices and the Silmarillion is a nice touch),
Not a nice touch. Essential to any good understanding of the story.

I don't know- I understood The Hobbit well enough at 3 with the Rankin-Bass cartoon, and again at 6 when I finally got around to the book. That said, I appreciate Jackson's work the most when he supplements the plot from the original books with material from the appendices- less so when he tampers with the story-line.

but there were many instances of scenery porn that could have been cut with no problem, especially given the fact that it all looked fake!

The performances were great, the songs were great, and all in all I will probably buy it in a home format- and perhaps make an edited version for private viewing with a much saner less ego-driven running time.
You're projecting a lot of your own impressions onto Peter Jackson and his crew, don't you think?

Possibly- though  the ego remark is entirely aimed at Jackson, not his fine crew.

I will also allow that a lot of the "fake" look might be due to the 48 fps format.

Saw it the other night, didn't know they decided to split it up until I noticed it was going really slow.

They cut out someone they can't cut out...

 I feel like there was something on the Downs that was left out. They spent way too much time in Moria and it looked too fake. The scene with the eagles seemed odd since I thought that stuff occured once they were out of the mountains.

I'm left wondering how they're going to turn the journey through Mirkwood into another three hours and then another one for the Lonely Mountain stuff. If they cut out the wood Elves it will be unforgivable. It would be nice if they can somehow manage to get some of their Avari background in.

No one is allowed to complain about any "cutting" and then reference the Goblin lair of The Hobbit as "Moria". We are revoking your Tolkien badge.
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Re: Anyone else seen the new trailer for "The Hobbit"?
« Reply #96 on: January 07, 2013, 09:58:40 AM »
No one is allowed to complain about any "cutting" and then reference the Goblin lair of The Hobbit as "Moria". We are revoking your Tolkien badge.

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Re: Anyone else seen the new trailer for "The Hobbit"?
« Reply #97 on: January 07, 2013, 05:57:27 PM »
No one is allowed to complain about any "cutting" and then reference the Goblin lair of The Hobbit as "Moria". We are revoking your Tolkien badge.

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There was a battle scene in Moria, though, and that was indeed different from the battle scene in Goblin-town. The Moria scene, though was included merely to set some background to help us understand better the plight of the Dwarves.
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