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« on: December 22, 2011, 01:05:19 AM »

Looks like my next birhday is going to be fun according to what I'm seeing/reading the "The Hobbit" should be released next Dec. 14th the day before my birthday. Looks like there will be a lot of returning actors and some interesting new ones. Also looks like the move my go a bit beyond just the book perhaps into some of the others things that would have been happening at the time and told elsewhere but not in the book. Anyone else see the  trailer? What did you think?
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« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2011, 01:07:06 AM »

No. I still haven't seen the other three movies, would you believe it? And Tolkien is one of my favorite authors.  Smiley I've got to update my Netflix.
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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2011, 01:30:14 AM »

Yeah, I saw it. Cool that we get to see it before the end of the world. Wink
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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2011, 02:36:41 AM »

Yeah, I saw it. One of my friends posted a link to it on Facebook and I did likewise. I saw it mentioned that they are taking a few things out of the appendix and adding that to the movie to add to the story line. I've noticed that we actually get to see Gandalf when he is away from the group and IIRC we only got a brief explanation as to why he was absent in the book. (I need to read all of those books again...)

I even checked IMDb to see what news there was and saw where some people wanted a Silmarillion movie made... as interesting as I think that would be I don't think that a movie could me made based off the whole book.

Now I am having a nostalgia attack and want to see the movies and read the books again, guess I just have to wait for my leave...
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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2011, 04:06:38 AM »

Epic!
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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2011, 04:29:32 AM »

Yep, it's all over FB. So exicted.  Cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2011, 10:56:35 AM »

I've seen it.. more than once (well I had to show the family too after all  Grin )

Martin Freeman looks very good as a Hobbit, I think and the dwarves are all grand.  Has anyone seen some of the still photos?  WETA workshops are at it again with wonderful armor and swords and more.

The dwarven singing is very good too, I think.  I'm looking forward to more of Howard Shore's music

And I liked the shot of Gandalf near the end with his staff striking.  I know what does with that..

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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2011, 09:40:34 PM »

Thanks, Michal I never would have though to put this in reviews. Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2011, 10:11:47 PM »

Oh man when they started singing that Lonely Mountain song I grabbed a hammer and ran out into the street to hit random people
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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2011, 10:26:57 PM »

Pure awesomeness!
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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2011, 10:42:58 PM »

Just went and watched it... indeed! pure awesomeness it is!
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« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2011, 12:02:36 AM »

Oh man when they started singing that Lonely Mountain song I grabbed a hammer and ran out into the street to hit random people
I almost ran off on a quest to defeat the dragon, Smaug.
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« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2011, 12:33:41 AM »

Looks awesome.  Can't wait. I don't see many movies in theatres but I'll definitely go for this.
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« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2011, 01:42:20 AM »

Caught the stills, sweet.  Grin

I used to be able to play that song on the piano, well the Rankin-Bass version anyway.
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« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2011, 07:14:25 AM »

Oh man when they started singing that Lonely Mountain song I grabbed a hammer and ran out into the street to hit random people
I almost ran off on a quest to defeat the dragon, Smaug.

No Smaug in my neighborhood, but a lot of smokers
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« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2011, 04:43:51 PM »

The dwarven singing is very good too, I think.  I'm looking forward to more of Howard Shore's music

That was my favorite part. Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2012, 03:13:51 PM »

The Hobbit - September Trailer 2 HD - An Unexpected Journey
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« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2012, 04:47:00 PM »

I've seen it (OK, more than once...)  It looks very good. 
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« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2012, 06:07:00 PM »

Cool thanks for sharing, can't wait til Dec.  Grin
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« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2012, 12:16:22 AM »

The Hobbit - September Trailer 2 HD - An Unexpected Journey

Doesn't stoke the fire as much as the first one, but I suppose this one had a different purpose Smiley
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« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2012, 10:39:55 PM »

Epic!

Well now I'm definitely NOT going to see it. 
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« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2012, 10:42:29 PM »

Epic!

Well now I'm definitely NOT going to see it. 

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« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2012, 12:10:39 AM »

Epic!

Well now I'm definitely NOT going to see it. 

Too much awesomeness for you to handle in your old age, Father?  Cool

A) the hobbit had to have been my LEAST favorite book.

B) anything Michal thinks is epic must be met with distain, by rule.
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« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2012, 04:42:29 PM »

Just heard this: it's the song to go over the ending credits of the first Hobbit movie, done by Neil Finn.

You can hear it via the link on this page of "Rolling Stone"

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/neil-finn-reaches-epic-heights-on-song-of-the-lonely-mountain-song-premiere-20121112

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« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2012, 11:42:38 AM »

Just heard this: it's the song to go over the ending credits of the first Hobbit movie, done by Neil Finn.

You can hear it via the link on this page of "Rolling Stone"

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/neil-finn-reaches-epic-heights-on-song-of-the-lonely-mountain-song-premiere-20121112



It's epic!

And here you can find whole  soundtrack:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/the-hobbit-an-unexpected-journey-soundtrack-honors-the-dwarves-premiere-20121130
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« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2012, 11:46:28 AM »

Just heard this: it's the song to go over the ending credits of the first Hobbit movie, done by Neil Finn.

You can hear it via the link on this page of "Rolling Stone"

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/neil-finn-reaches-epic-heights-on-song-of-the-lonely-mountain-song-premiere-20121112



It's epic!

And here you can find whole  soundtrack:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/the-hobbit-an-unexpected-journey-soundtrack-honors-the-dwarves-premiere-20121130

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Just heard this: it's the song to go over the ending credits of the first Hobbit movie, done by Neil Finn.

You can hear it via the link on this page of "Rolling Stone"

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/neil-finn-reaches-epic-heights-on-song-of-the-lonely-mountain-song-premiere-20121112



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« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2012, 02:12:07 AM »

Just heard this: it's the song to go over the ending credits of the first Hobbit movie, done by Neil Finn.

You can hear it via the link on this page of "Rolling Stone"

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/neil-finn-reaches-epic-heights-on-song-of-the-lonely-mountain-song-premiere-20121112


You are now my favorite poster.

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« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2012, 08:25:26 PM »

Heheheh.  I did, indeed.

That's kind of you, William. 

How about this one:  A video of the swordsmith
http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2012/12/02/66446-video-see-mastersmith-peter-lyons-hobbit-weapons/

And here's a trailer/ad with about 3 frames of part of Smaug:

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2012/12/01/66376-hobbit-tv-spot-9-hello-hint-of-smaug/

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« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2012, 08:28:30 PM »

I seriously feel like a kid on Christmas Eve. I can barely contain my excitment.
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« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2012, 08:31:20 PM »

What is the location in 0:13.
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« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2012, 10:26:48 AM »

Michal- I think that that is in the Goblin/Orc area inside the mountains.
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« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2012, 11:01:18 AM »

I've been driving my wife nuts by giving her a day by day countdown to the release date.  If you don't know, it is down to 10 days!
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« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2012, 11:02:17 AM »

I've been driving my wife nuts by giving her a day by day countdown to the release date.  If you don't know, it is down to 10 days!
Also, six months and ten days until the release of Man of Steel.  Grin
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« Reply #34 on: December 04, 2012, 10:38:41 PM »

And for this evening's viewing pleasure:

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2012/12/04/66592-official-six-incredible-video-clips-from-the-hobbit/?fb_source=pubv1

Six short clips including the arrival of many dwarves at Bag End, Swords and their names and Wargs!!

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« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2012, 01:16:00 AM »

No. I still haven't seen the other three movies, would you believe it? And Tolkien is one of my favorite authors.  Smiley I've got to update my Netflix.

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« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2012, 01:16:00 AM »

I'm going to see the midnight release irregardless of if I have work the next morning or not! police
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« Reply #37 on: December 05, 2012, 08:09:32 PM »

What is the location in 0:13.
I thought it was Rivendell, but I could definitely be wrong.
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I'm going to see the midnight release irregardless of if I have work the next morning or not! police

Hell, I just found out today that the Friday it comes out I'm off. I know what I'm doing!  Smiley
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« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2012, 09:43:55 PM »

In this version of The Hobbit, North Korea invades the Shire.
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« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2012, 02:16:07 AM »

In this version of The Hobbit, North Korea invades the Shire.

I was really upset that Shire chapter was not included it the RotK.
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« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2012, 12:30:19 PM »

There were many who were, Michal, and others who didn't like it that Tom Bombadil was not included in the movies.  There were echoes or suggestions or references to both.  But movies and their story telling is a different media than books.  Some things that work well in one, don't in the other. 

Here's a link to a 13 minute special about the making that has some interesting things such as one of the Eagles, a bit of insight into Radagast the Brown and some on the three trolls Tom, Bert and William

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« Reply #42 on: December 06, 2012, 02:10:21 PM »

Stephen Colbert is in the middle of Hobbit Week, celebrating the forthcoming release of the movie The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey. Last night, he took on "the wizards at Denny's" who have launched a hobbit-themed menu that is "a delicious tribute to a beloved children's book, though the breakfast has a much darker ending." As Colbert says, "Yes, eat like a hobbit because at Denny's you can't eat like a human."
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« Reply #43 on: December 06, 2012, 07:27:54 PM »

And here's a video of the other co-star of the movie: New Zealand

http://www.theflyingsocialnetwork.com/archives/6927

Wonderful scenery they have there.  Quite glorious.
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« Reply #44 on: December 06, 2012, 07:33:49 PM »

Stephen Colbert is in the middle of Hobbit Week, celebrating the forthcoming release of the movie The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey. Last night, he took on "the wizards at Denny's" who have launched a hobbit-themed menu that is "a delicious tribute to a beloved children's book, though the breakfast has a much darker ending." As Colbert says, "Yes, eat like a hobbit because at Denny's you can't eat like a human."

He is such a Tolkien geek.  Smiley and he apparently has a cameo in either part 2 or 3.  One of the men of Laketown, mayhaps?
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There were many who were, Michal, and others who didn't like it that Tom Bombadil was not included in the movies.  There were echoes or suggestions or references to both.  But movies and their story telling is a different media than books.  Some things that work well in one, don't in the other. 

To be frankly, I didn't like the book until they've reached Brie. However that Shire chapter in the end was my favourite one.
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« Reply #46 on: December 06, 2012, 09:05:58 PM »

Come to think of it, it's time for me to read the books again.  Smiley
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« Reply #47 on: December 11, 2012, 10:45:31 PM »

Not from the movie per se, but entertaining in itself:

Here is an analysis of the contract between Bilbo Baggins and Thorin Oakenshield and Co. and whether it is enforceable:

http://www.maucerelawgroup.com/bilbo-baggins-v-thorin-oakenshield-et-al-is-the-hobbit%E2%80%99s-contract-enforceable/

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« Reply #48 on: December 11, 2012, 11:16:07 PM »

Woohoo, just got my tickets for Saturday. Happy birthday on Saturday to me.
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« Reply #49 on: December 16, 2012, 06:50:41 AM »

Woohoo, just got my tickets for Saturday. Happy birthday on Saturday to me.

What did you think of it? I'm going to see it today...
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« Reply #50 on: December 16, 2012, 07:54:16 AM »

It is AMAZING!
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« Reply #51 on: December 16, 2012, 09:30:55 AM »

It is AMAZING!
I agree. Some  new material not in the book, but l didn't mind that kept me from knowing everything in advance. Some back story elements that caused other things to make more sense. Some wonderful humour and spectacular views.
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« Reply #52 on: December 16, 2012, 10:53:02 AM »

I'm a huge fan of the trilogy and, in my opinion, The Hobbit is as good as any of them. I was engrossed the entire time. It did exactly what prequels should do, which is have a beautiful story of its own, but set the stage for the "bigger" story. The non-book elements were all taken from appendices to the LOTR and were interwoven masterfully. It really is fantastic, definitely see it.

However, I'd highly recommend you see it in normal 2D. I saw it in 3D and didn't think it enhanced it in any way.
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« Reply #53 on: December 16, 2012, 11:26:54 AM »

Spoilers! Give me some spoilers!
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« Reply #54 on: December 16, 2012, 11:29:20 AM »

Spoilers! Give me some spoilers!

Bard kills Smaug.

Oh wait, that's for the next part.
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« Reply #55 on: December 16, 2012, 04:32:02 PM »

Spoilers! Give me some spoilers!

In a hole in the ground, there lived a hobbit.
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« Reply #56 on: December 16, 2012, 04:34:45 PM »

Spoilers! Give me some spoilers!

In a hole in the ground, there lived a hobbit.

Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell, nor yet a dry, bare, sandy hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat: it was a hobbit-hole, and that means comfort.
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« Reply #57 on: December 16, 2012, 04:43:25 PM »

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« Reply #58 on: December 16, 2012, 07:13:27 PM »

*SPOILERS*

I saw the 2D version. I saw both parts 1 and 2 today. I know it was both parts because no one movie can drone on and on and on like that. Had to be at least 2 of them. What a terrible movie. Seriously, that might have been the worst movie I've seen in years. What a disjointed, boring, BORING, mess. Oh, and a cutesy-let's-try-to-entertain-kids-while-we-also-have-beheadings movie. Though that one beheading where Gandalf knocks it off the orc's head was pretty funny. The other awesome part--the ONLY other cool part--was the battle between the stone giants. That was cool. But that's it. I also didn't like some of the nods to the LOTR movie. Ok, Gandalf hits his head on the chandelier, that was nice. But some of it just seemed like they didn't have enough ideas so they were recycling. I'm pretty sure they recycled a Pirates of the Caribbean idea or two as well. Maybe I'll watch it again and will love it. Maybe I'm overreacting. Maybe I was just frustrated and tired. Or maybe not.
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« Reply #59 on: December 17, 2012, 04:14:22 AM »

*SPOILERS*

Also, I couldn't have been the only one who found the makeup on the dwarves to be terrible? And those hair styles in an attempt to help make them different from each other? Oh boy. Admittedly the acting seemed fine to me. Not interesting. But fine for what it was. I didn't buy Thorin as a tough guy though... the actor was just too small. Some of his battle moments were pretty good though in spite of that. Smaug attacking the city/stronghold was also good. There was again a walking montage, which will of course delight orthonorm and others here who like that sort of thing.
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« Reply #60 on: December 18, 2012, 10:48:41 PM »

Well? Well?  Grin
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« Reply #61 on: December 18, 2012, 10:57:31 PM »

I saw it with my three oldest kids Sunday and we loved it.  They all liked it better than Lord of the Rings, and they loved Lord of the Rings.  Gollum was awesome, I liked how the beginning of the movie introduced a young Bilbo and gave you time to know him before he went on the adventure.  The last 45 minutes was a constant chase of excitement.
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« Reply #62 on: December 18, 2012, 11:17:50 PM »

I honestly wish it weren't being made into a money-milking trilogy, but the first movie turned out to be pretty good despite its (imo) flaws.

Pros:
Showed the fall of the Dwarven kingdom really well at the beginning.
Great introduction - especially for fans of the book with a few scenes of verbatim dialogue.
Tied the Hobbit storyline into the wider LOTR story well.
Stayed pretty close to the book apart from additions and slight modifications.
Gollum/riddle scene was surprisingly well done.
Was overall an enjoyable movie and a hopeful start for the trilogy.

Cons:
Changed the "Down, Down to Goblin Town" song, with a modified version of it being badly sung by the Goblin King.
Removed the Fifteen Birds/"Funny Little Things" song altogether. I was really looking forward to hearing this one too. (Is this even from the book, or just the 1977 film?)
Lost the Hobbit's feel for a more LOTR feel.
Action scenes were too over-the-top, and much too like something from Pirates of the Caribbean.
Eagles didn't talk.
Some of the dwarves looked too much like humans.
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Asteriktos, I will destroy you.  Angry

It be my favorite movie of the year.
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« Reply #64 on: December 19, 2012, 12:31:25 AM »

*SPOILERS (maybe?)*

I wasn't a fan of the way Dale was portrayed, even for the few seconds we actually saw them (iirc they're meant to be based on the Goths and Vikings, so it was weird to see Middle Eastern soldiers and Mediterranean architecture), Rhadagast was just silly, and Thranduil riding on an elk was too much. Azog shouldn't have even been there either, and it's pretty evident that they're fulfilling WB's mandate for a trilogy by packing in unnecessary battle scenes. Don't get me wrong, it was definitely fun to watch (I thought Gollum's scene was very well done, for example), but it just didn't have the same feel as Jackson's first LotR trilogy, which was absolutely fantastic and, though not perfect, still far more true to Tolkien's original work. Hopefully the second and third movies in the series will be better.

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« Reply #65 on: December 19, 2012, 01:40:55 AM »

Being a Doctor Who nerd, I was pleasantly surprised to see Doctor No. 7, Sylvester McCoy, cast in the role of Radagast the Brown.
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« Reply #66 on: December 19, 2012, 05:02:58 AM »

Not yet, but I am absolutely dying to see the film. If I get time this weekend, I might call up my friend Angie--who's a big fantasy nerd--and see it with her.
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« Reply #67 on: December 19, 2012, 09:14:05 PM »

I've watched it.

I can't say much about pictures (I will form an opinion after I'll watch it in a cinema) but the story is OK.
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« Reply #68 on: December 23, 2012, 05:25:12 AM »

I went to see it in the cinema yesterday. I really liked it and I'm certainly going to see part 2 in the cinema when it's released.
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I was able to see it yesterday.  It'll need a second viewing at least, of course.  Smiley I liked it very much.
Right off the bat I must warn you that I am such a geek that when the names of the blue wizards are not recalled I could say "Alatar and Pallando". 

I liked the back story and *it's all there in the appendices and supplemental writings*.  The music is great as before and the use of the various themes (leitmotifs anyone?) are well done.  I also like it that the songs are sung by the actors themselves.  Martin Freeman fits Bilbo beautifully (and fyi I also like him in the very different role of Dr. Watson in Sherlock.)

It is interesting that Hugo Weaving was very good at portraying Elrond as glad and not careworn as he was in LotR.  Radagast was not an extraneous figure and he *is* the one in the histories that finds out that the Necromancer has occupied Dol Guldur and got the news to the White Council.

The "Riddles in the Dark" was spot on wonderful and I thought that it was a great bit of show-don't-tell that we see the Ring leaving Gollum.

Costar New Zealand was gorgeous as it was nine years ago when I last "visited" in a movie theater.

Asteriktos- the bit about "parts 1 and 2" was an amusing clue.  Grin

I am not sure how much else to discuss yet as to avoid any spoilers.
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Where are Blue Wizards named?
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« Reply #71 on: December 23, 2012, 03:25:37 PM »

Where are Blue Wizards named?
I'd never read Tolkien's Unfinished Tales, either, but I was able to find some information on the Blue Wizards:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Wizards
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« Reply #72 on: December 23, 2012, 03:44:46 PM »

Quote from: Michał Kalina link=topic=41830.msg854247#msg854247 date=T1356283241
Where are Blue Wizards named?

There is a 12 volume series of material and analysis that Christopher Tolkien compiled from his father's papers that were published in the 80s and 90s.  It's in one of them.  It's a bit of a tribute/jest to have the line about their names not being recalled since they were only found in the papers and never are referred to in the text of LotR.

There are some rather nice stories amongst the various notes and bits that show how the works developed and changed over time.

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« Reply #74 on: December 23, 2012, 04:54:06 PM »

At your service

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It's in one of them.  It's a bit of a tribute/jest to have the line about their names not being recalled since they were only found in the papers and never are referred to in the text of LotR.

It could also be the copyright situation since Warner Bros. does not own the intellectual material wherein they are named.
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I doubt it.  It fits with the history/sense of time that would be in such a situation. Recall that the istari/wizards came to Middle Earth from the West (Valinor) around Third Age 1000 and events of The Hobbit begin in 2941 T.A.  So nearly 2,000 years without seeing someone could lead to forgetting their name.

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Didn't know where to put that:

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O most glorious hobbit Bilbo
you won a share of the treasure guarded by the dragon, Smaug!
For thou didst journey from the your home into a sinister territory.
In the Black Forest without Gandalf you faced giant spiders and wood-elves
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And you then solved the secret riddles of Gollum!
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That's a wonderful bit /\
Thank you for posting it, Michal.
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« Reply #79 on: December 29, 2012, 11:15:59 AM »

should i see the 2d or the 3d version?
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I personally prefer 2d and most likely will watch it that way.
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I saw it in 2D and it was fine that way.
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« Reply #82 on: December 29, 2012, 02:10:53 PM »

I saw it in 2D but I would like to see it in 3D.  Probably be a bit  before that happens though.
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« Reply #83 on: December 29, 2012, 05:15:02 PM »

I'm with Asteriktos on this one. Really bad and unnecessarily long movie, completely overshadowed by other great films recently released including Argo, Lincoln, and Django Unchained (that one was a guilty pleasure... extremely violent but a fun ride, and some great acting by Samuel Jackson and Leonardo DiCaprio).
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Django Unchained was awesome.
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« Reply #85 on: January 01, 2013, 02:30:03 PM »

should i see the 2d or the 3d version?
There's nothing in the 3D version that makes the viewing experience any better than 2D. Some movies are made for 3D; The Hobbit is not one of them. You're better off, then, not wasting the extra money a 3D viewing will cost you.
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« Reply #86 on: January 01, 2013, 02:33:08 PM »

Django Unchained was awesome.
I heard it was off the hook.
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Django Unchained was awesome.
I heard it was off the hook.
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The sets had too much of a PBS by way of BBC special feel- the entire movie looked like a stage production, rather killing the all-vital for a Tolkien work "willing suspension of disbelief". The 2:48 minute running time contributed to an overbloated mess- I could possibly see a trilogy clocking in at 2 hrs each while still being enjoyable (though I still boggle at a trilogy for a kid's story that was shorter than any one of the LotR books- though the addition of lore from LotR appendices and the Silmarillion is a nice touch), but there were many instances of scenery porn that could have been cut with no problem, especially given the fact that it all looked fake!

The performances were great, the songs were great, and all in all I will probably buy it in a home format- and perhaps make an edited version for private viewing with a much saner less ego-driven running time.
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« Reply #89 on: January 01, 2013, 03:48:27 PM »

Rivendell looked extremely CGI-ied.
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The sets had too much of a PBS by way of BBC special feel- the entire movie looked like a stage production, rather killing the all-vital for a Tolkien work "willing suspension of disbelief". The 2:48 minute running time contributed to an overbloated mess- I could possibly see a trilogy clocking in at 2 hrs each while still being enjoyable (though I still boggle at a trilogy for a kid's story that was shorter than any one of the LotR books- though the addition of lore from LotR appendices and the Silmarillion is a nice touch),
Not a nice touch. Essential to any good understanding of the story.

but there were many instances of scenery porn that could have been cut with no problem, especially given the fact that it all looked fake!

The performances were great, the songs were great, and all in all I will probably buy it in a home format- and perhaps make an edited version for private viewing with a much saner less ego-driven running time.
You're projecting a lot of your own impressions onto Peter Jackson and his crew, don't you think?
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« Reply #91 on: January 04, 2013, 12:06:20 AM »

For your amusement: An article from The One Ring.Net by a person who does a bit of dog sledding on Radagast's sled. Entertaining both for information on mushing and the analysis

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2013/01/03/67872-radagasts-racing-rhosgobel-rabbits-a-recreational-musher-looks-at-the-realities-of-bunny-sledding/?fb_source=pubv1


P.S.  I *like* the scenery and that it's "Co-starring New Zealand"  and that the background information was put in.
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« Reply #92 on: January 06, 2013, 11:49:30 PM »

I saw it this afternoon, I liked it.  I would go see it again.I did find myself doing a few  "what about...." or "Naw, didint happen THAT way''', but I tend to do that when I read and like a book, then a movie comes out that is based on that book. (It's like I forget what that phrase means-based on-LOL)
I knew it-Dudley Moore is a hobbit and must be related to Mr Baggins!  (Sorry, couldn't resist-I loved Dudley Moore, and kept seeing him in that role during the movie!  Smiley 
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« Reply #93 on: January 06, 2013, 11:54:51 PM »

Saw it the other night, didn't know they decided to split it up until I noticed it was going really slow.

They cut out someone they can't cut out...

 I feel like there was something on the Downs that was left out. They spent way too much time in Moria and it looked too fake. The scene with the eagles seemed odd since I thought that stuff occured once they were out of the mountains.

I'm left wondering how they're going to turn the journey through Mirkwood into another three hours and then another one for the Lonely Mountain stuff. If they cut out the wood Elves it will be unforgivable. It would be nice if they can somehow manage to get some of their Avari background in.
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« Reply #94 on: January 07, 2013, 12:22:35 AM »

Who are you referng to that was cut out? If Tom Bombadil, as perhaps, suggested by the reference to the Downs, that was in LotR not the Hobbit.
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« Reply #95 on: January 07, 2013, 12:36:05 AM »

The sets had too much of a PBS by way of BBC special feel- the entire movie looked like a stage production, rather killing the all-vital for a Tolkien work "willing suspension of disbelief". The 2:48 minute running time contributed to an overbloated mess- I could possibly see a trilogy clocking in at 2 hrs each while still being enjoyable (though I still boggle at a trilogy for a kid's story that was shorter than any one of the LotR books- though the addition of lore from LotR appendices and the Silmarillion is a nice touch),
Not a nice touch. Essential to any good understanding of the story.

I don't know- I understood The Hobbit well enough at 3 with the Rankin-Bass cartoon, and again at 6 when I finally got around to the book. That said, I appreciate Jackson's work the most when he supplements the plot from the original books with material from the appendices- less so when he tampers with the story-line.

but there were many instances of scenery porn that could have been cut with no problem, especially given the fact that it all looked fake!

The performances were great, the songs were great, and all in all I will probably buy it in a home format- and perhaps make an edited version for private viewing with a much saner less ego-driven running time.
You're projecting a lot of your own impressions onto Peter Jackson and his crew, don't you think?

Possibly- though  the ego remark is entirely aimed at Jackson, not his fine crew.

I will also allow that a lot of the "fake" look might be due to the 48 fps format.

Saw it the other night, didn't know they decided to split it up until I noticed it was going really slow.

They cut out someone they can't cut out...

 I feel like there was something on the Downs that was left out. They spent way too much time in Moria and it looked too fake. The scene with the eagles seemed odd since I thought that stuff occured once they were out of the mountains.

I'm left wondering how they're going to turn the journey through Mirkwood into another three hours and then another one for the Lonely Mountain stuff. If they cut out the wood Elves it will be unforgivable. It would be nice if they can somehow manage to get some of their Avari background in.

No one is allowed to complain about any "cutting" and then reference the Goblin lair of The Hobbit as "Moria". We are revoking your Tolkien badge.
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« Reply #96 on: January 07, 2013, 09:58:40 AM »

No one is allowed to complain about any "cutting" and then reference the Goblin lair of The Hobbit as "Moria". We are revoking your Tolkien badge.

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« Reply #97 on: January 07, 2013, 05:57:27 PM »

No one is allowed to complain about any "cutting" and then reference the Goblin lair of The Hobbit as "Moria". We are revoking your Tolkien badge.

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There was a battle scene in Moria, though, and that was indeed different from the battle scene in Goblin-town. The Moria scene, though was included merely to set some background to help us understand better the plight of the Dwarves.
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