Looks like a Korean presbyterian service. There's tons of presbies in Korea.
Yeah, it "looks like...", but is it? And that doesn't explain whatever point username was making, if indeed he had one.
(Sort of reminds me in a vague sort of way of one or two posters on this board who seem to confuse a city-state in Italy with an actual human person or persons.)
The Vatican is not a city-state in Italy. If it were (as it was 1870-1929), it wouldn't be a city state.
"Roman Catholic Church." "Catholic Church." Are they actual human persons?
On the "worshippers," that evidently is what Charlemagne wanted. Like the papal state in Italy.
Okay, against my better judgment, I'll bite.
I can always count on you, out of love and charity, to try to "de-confuse" me
Thanks for the "word of the day", metonymy! What a great word! I'd never come across it before, and now, thanks to you, my vocabulary is further enriched.
I know and knew, as do most other Catholics and not a few Orthodox here, how you use the term "Vatican" (I'm sure I need not elaborate, and to do so would really contribute little, if anything at all, to any serious discussion of anything). Putting a label to it, i.e. "metonymy", doesn't change a thing, really, though as I said, it *is* a great word.
Since you quote wikipedia, allow me to also do so: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_City
(And before you say anything, yes, I know that the article refers to "Vatican City", as opposed to "the Vatican" [referring to the way that you use it])."Vatican City Listeni/ˈvætɨkən ˈsɪti/, or Vatican City State, in Italian officially Stato della Città del Vaticano (pronounced [ˈstaːto della t͡ʃitˈta del vatiˈkaːno]), which translates literally as State of the City of the Vatican, is a landlocked sovereign city-state whose territory consists of a walled enclave within the city of Rome, Italy. It has an area of approximately 44 hectares (110 acres), and a population of just over 800. This makes Vatican City the smallest independent state in the world by area, and also the world's least populated.
Vatican City was established in 1929 by the Lateran Treaty, signed by Cardinal Secretary of State Pietro Gasparri, on behalf of the Holy See and by Prime Minister Benito Mussolini on behalf of the Kingdom of Italy. Vatican City State is distinct from the Holy See, which dates back to early Christianity and is the main episcopal see of 1.2 billion Latin and Eastern Catholic adherents around the globe. Ordinances of Vatican City are published in Italian; official documents of the Holy See are issued mainly in Latin. The two entities have distinct passports: the Holy See, not being a country, issues only diplomatic and service passports, whereas Vatican City State issues normal passports. In each case very few passports are issued.
The Lateran Treaty in 1929, which brought the city-state into existence, spoke of it as a new creation (Preamble and Article III), not as a vestige of the much larger Papal States (756–1870) that had previously encompassed much of central Italy. Most of this territory was absorbed into the Kingdom of Italy in 1860, and the final portion, namely the city of Rome with Lazio, ten years later, in 1870.
Vatican City is an ecclesiastical or sacerdotal-monarchical state, ruled by the Bishop of Rome—the Pope. "
There is also this: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/vt.html
Consider me out of this "conversation", but please feel free to have the last word about it. Our mutual animosity gets neither of us anywhere, and only serves to alienate both of us further from God, especially during this (or any) Holy season of Advent. For my part, I will be trying to "fast", at least to a certain extent, from this website and from any participation in it that could be detrimental to my soul, for the remainder of the season. You are in my prayers, and I hope that you will include me in yours.
By the way, I was quite serious and sincere in my thanks to you about enriching my vocabulary!
With love, in Christ our True God,