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Todd Bentley claims to have raised 35 people from the dead
« on: November 30, 2015, 10:04:35 PM »
Todd Bentley is a leading figure in Joel's Army, which represents the lunatic fringe of Pentecostalism that makes even Creflo Dollar look sane. (Joel's Army originated when some Manifest Sons of God/Latter Rain people began reading Calvinist Dominionist authors and incorporating their ideas into Pentecostalism, resulting in a potentially toxic brew. A lot of these people believe that when the end times come they become invincible superheroes tasked with meting God's judgment out upon the wicked).

Bentley is famous for his violent behavior on stage (he "punches the Spirit into" people).  Now Todd says he's raised 35 people from the dead. And even the atheists are blogging about it.

(I'm actually working on a mystery story about detectives who begin investigating a Bentley-esque figure and the "revival" he leads, only to discover there's more behind it than initially meets the eye. I'm planning on releasing it as a part of a collection of short stories).
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Re: Todd Bentley claims to have raised 35 people from the dead
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2015, 10:37:34 PM »
^ What do you wish to discuss here?
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Re: Todd Bentley claims to have raised 35 people from the dead
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2015, 12:59:58 AM »
I'm curious about the results here. Do they come back like they were before they died or are these resurrections more like zombies. Could Todd Bentley be the origin of a zombie apocalypse? The plot thickens...
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Re: Todd Bentley claims to have raised 35 people from the dead
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2015, 01:06:20 AM »
^ What do you wish to discuss here?

Probably nothing. My response was "OK" and then got on with my life.

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Re: Todd Bentley claims to have raised 35 people from the dead
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2015, 01:26:37 AM »
Todd Bentley is a leading figure in Joel's Army, which represents the lunatic fringe of Pentecostalism that makes even Creflo Dollar look sane. (Joel's Army originated when some Manifest Sons of God/Latter Rain people began reading Calvinist Dominionist authors and incorporating their ideas into Pentecostalism, resulting in a potentially toxic brew. A lot of these people believe that when the end times come they become invincible superheroes tasked with meting God's judgment out upon the wicked).

Bentley is famous for his violent behavior on stage (he "punches the Spirit into" people).  Now Todd says he's raised 35 people from the dead. And even the atheists are blogging about it.

(I'm actually working on a mystery story about detectives who begin investigating a Bentley-esque figure and the "revival" he leads, only to discover there's more behind it than initially meets the eye. I'm planning on releasing it as a part of a collection of short stories).

I highly recommend Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future by Fr. Seraphim Rose.    ;)
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Re: Todd Bentley claims to have raised 35 people from the dead
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2015, 09:17:13 AM »
     This guy is on a whole different level of deception and apostasy.

   Many times you have to really do some searching to find the heretical teachings or off teachings in churches and ministries today, but with this guy and that whole movement it's painfully obvious and in your face how evil and deceptive everything is.

    How do people not realize this ?

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Re: Todd Bentley claims to have raised 35 people from the dead
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2015, 10:52:37 AM »
I once spoke with someone who, out of curiosity, attended one of Bentley's events in Lakeland and claimed one of the purported miracles happened to him (maybe his fillings were turned to gold?). Anyway, instead of buying into the God-is-at-work-here line, once the golddust hit the fan that guy started thinking he needed to get out, quick.

Friend of a friend of a relative story, but anyway, there it is.
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Re: Todd Bentley claims to have raised 35 people from the dead
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2015, 11:08:25 AM »
I once spoke with someone who, out of curiosity, attended one of Bentley's events in Lakeland and claimed one of the purported miracles happened to him (maybe his fillings were turned to gold?). Anyway, instead of buying into the God-is-at-work-here line, once the golddust hit the fan that guy started thinking he needed to get out, quick.

Friend of a friend of a relative story, but anyway, there it is.

This is interesting and it actually does align with what Fr. Seraphim Rose and others have written, and that I believe, about occult incidents in Pentecostal churches.

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Re: Todd Bentley claims to have raised 35 people from the dead
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2016, 05:41:38 PM »
(I'm actually working on a mystery story about detectives who begin investigating a Bentley-esque figure and the "revival" he leads,

You will need to be a very good writer - and maybe you are. I find that most novelists (and actors) who try to portray the ethos and inner character of a religion they do not themselves believe in and who have therefore never experienced its personal and corporate internal world fail to achieve plausibility or verisimilitude, whether atheists and agnostics writing about Christianity, or outsiders writing specifically about the Evangelical faith, experience and community. So go ahead and write! I like a good detective story. But your research will need to be meticulous and the portrayal convincing.
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Re: Todd Bentley claims to have raised 35 people from the dead
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2016, 05:46:00 PM »
(I'm actually working on a mystery story about detectives who begin investigating a Bentley-esque figure and the "revival" he leads,

You will need to be a very good writer - and maybe you are. I find that most novelists (and actors) who try to portray the ethos and inner character of a religion they do not themselves believe in and who have therefore never experienced its personal and corporate internal world fail to achieve plausibility or verisimilitude, whether atheists and agnostics writing about Christianity, or outsiders writing specifically about the Evangelical faith, experience and community. So go ahead and write! I like a good detective story. But your research will need to be meticulous and the portrayal convincing.

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Re: Todd Bentley claims to have raised 35 people from the dead
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2016, 06:14:31 PM »
^ What do you wish to discuss here?

Seriously?
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Re: Todd Bentley claims to have raised 35 people from the dead
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2016, 06:17:27 PM »
Todd Bentley is a leading figure in Joel's Army, which represents the lunatic fringe of Pentecostalism that makes even Creflo Dollar look sane. (Joel's Army originated when some Manifest Sons of God/Latter Rain people began reading Calvinist Dominionist authors and incorporating their ideas into Pentecostalism, resulting in a potentially toxic brew. A lot of these people believe that when the end times come they become invincible superheroes tasked with meting God's judgment out upon the wicked).

Bentley is famous for his violent behavior on stage (he "punches the Spirit into" people).  Now Todd says he's raised 35 people from the dead. And even the atheists are blogging about it.

(I'm actually working on a mystery story about detectives who begin investigating a Bentley-esque figure and the "revival" he leads, only to discover there's more behind it than initially meets the eye. I'm planning on releasing it as a part of a collection of short stories).


Wow. Thank you for this. And for being a poor substitute for Jetavan. Who can bear his visage!
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Re: Todd Bentley claims to have raised 35 people from the dead
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2016, 06:18:09 PM »
^ What do you wish to discuss here?

Probably nothing. My response was "OK" and then got on with my life.

What parties are you two not invited to?
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Re: Todd Bentley claims to have raised 35 people from the dead
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2016, 12:54:00 PM »
^ What do you wish to discuss here?

Probably nothing. My response was "OK" and then got on with my life.

What parties are you two not invited to?
The one you're not throwing.
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Re: Todd Bentley claims to have raised 35 people from the dead
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Re: Todd Bentley claims to have raised 35 people from the dead
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2016, 01:47:30 PM »
There's also Bentley's flip-flopping on whether he's been visited by an angel named Emma who looks like Kathryn Kuhlman

http://www1.cbn.com/biblestudy/angels%2C-deception-and-a-cry-for-biblical-truth
https://livingjourney.wordpress.com/2008/05/20/todd-bentley-is-he-now-ashamed-of-his-angel-emma/

And then his upholding of the idea that the Holy Spirit sometimes makes people act like animals, barking like dogs and such.
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Re: Todd Bentley claims to have raised 35 people from the dead
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2016, 03:23:25 PM »
^ What do you wish to discuss here?

Probably nothing. My response was "OK" and then got on with my life.

What parties are you two not invited to?
The one you're not throwing.

You don't throw parties when you are the party.
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Re: Todd Bentley claims to have raised 35 people from the dead
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2016, 03:25:19 PM »
A battle of wits with Watson. This won't end well.
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Re: Todd Bentley claims to have raised 35 people from the dead
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2016, 03:27:58 PM »
A battle of wits with Watson. This won't end well.

Ken Jennings' revenge!
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Re: Todd Bentley claims to have raised 35 people from the dead
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2016, 03:36:57 PM »
A battle of wits with Watson. This won't end well.

Ken Jennings' revenge!

Go for the Forrest Bounce!
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