Author Topic: St. John Coltrane African Orthodox Church: not canonical, I gather...  (Read 1360 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline biro

  • Excelsior
  • Site Supporter
  • Hoplitarches
  • *****
  • Posts: 17,075
  • Chapter one again, here I go again
  • Faith: Orthodox
  • Jurisdiction: GOAA
I ran across this church's website, "St. John Coltrane Church' in San Francisco, California, and although they use the name African Orthodox, they don't appear to be part of a mainstream Orthodox jurisdiction. I was wondering what others had heard. Reminds me, also, of this site- if it's not already on their list of extraneous churches, it seems like it deserves to be.

Offline Shiny

  • Site Supporter
  • Toumarches
  • *****
  • Posts: 13,267
  • Paint It Red
Re: St. John Coltrane African Orthodox Church: not canonical, I gather...
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2011, 08:56:51 PM »
A Love Supreme should be considered into sainthood.
“There is your brother, naked, crying, and you stand there confused over the choice of an attractive floor covering.”

– St. Ambrose of Milan

Offline Shiny

  • Site Supporter
  • Toumarches
  • *****
  • Posts: 13,267
  • Paint It Red
“There is your brother, naked, crying, and you stand there confused over the choice of an attractive floor covering.”

– St. Ambrose of Milan


Offline Agabus

  • The user formerly known as Agabus.
  • Archon
  • ********
  • Posts: 2,687
Re: St. John Coltrane African Orthodox Church: not canonical, I gather...
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2011, 09:46:47 PM »
The actual African contingent of the African Orthodox Church has been absorbed into canonical Orthodoxy.
Blessed Nazarius practiced the ascetic life. His clothes were tattered. He wore his shoes without removing them for six years.

THE OPINIONS HERE MAY NOT REFLECT THE ACTUAL OR PERCEIVED ORTHODOX CHURCH

Offline biro

  • Excelsior
  • Site Supporter
  • Hoplitarches
  • *****
  • Posts: 17,075
  • Chapter one again, here I go again
  • Faith: Orthodox
  • Jurisdiction: GOAA
Re: St. John Coltrane African Orthodox Church: not canonical, I gather...
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2011, 10:01:32 PM »
Good to hear.  :angel:

Offline Jason.Wike

  • OC.net guru
  • *******
  • Posts: 1,046
Re: St. John Coltrane African Orthodox Church: not canonical, I gather...
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2011, 12:57:13 AM »
What the heck is in the Greek letters in that 'icon'? "Ioanis"?
« Last Edit: November 26, 2011, 12:57:41 AM by Jason.Wike »

Offline LBK

  • No Reporting Allowed
  • Toumarches
  • ************
  • Posts: 12,573
  • Holy Father Patrick, pray for us!
  • Faith: Orthodox
Re: St. John Coltrane African Orthodox Church: not canonical, I gather...
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2011, 01:24:55 AM »
What the heck is in the Greek letters in that 'icon'? "Ioanis"?

Yes. *sigh* And it isn't even spelled right.  :P ::)
Am I posting? Or is it Schroedinger's Cat?

Offline Jason.Wike

  • OC.net guru
  • *******
  • Posts: 1,046
Re: St. John Coltrane African Orthodox Church: not canonical, I gather...
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2011, 03:47:23 AM »
What the heck is in the Greek letters in that 'icon'? "Ioanis"?

Yes. *sigh* And it isn't even spelled right.  :P ::)

I guess it is supposed to be Ioannis - which I think might be the Greek form of "John"?

Offline LBK

  • No Reporting Allowed
  • Toumarches
  • ************
  • Posts: 12,573
  • Holy Father Patrick, pray for us!
  • Faith: Orthodox
Re: St. John Coltrane African Orthodox Church: not canonical, I gather...
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2011, 04:21:01 AM »
What the heck is in the Greek letters in that 'icon'? "Ioanis"?

Yes. *sigh* And it isn't even spelled right.  :P ::)

I guess it is supposed to be Ioannis - which I think might be the Greek form of "John"?

Yes, and yes.
Am I posting? Or is it Schroedinger's Cat?

Offline Cognomen

  • Site Supporter
  • OC.net guru
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,972
  • Ungrateful Biped
Re: St. John Coltrane African Orthodox Church: not canonical, I gather...
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2011, 04:29:40 AM »
Maybe it's the painter's interpretation of what the name should be and how it should be spelled.  How can you judge, as you've never gotten to know the patron of the piece?
North American Eastern Orthodox Parish Council Delegate for the Canonization of Saints Twin Towers and Pentagon, as well as the Propagation of the Doctrine of the Assumption of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 (NAEOPCDCSTTPPDAMAFM®).

Offline LBK

  • No Reporting Allowed
  • Toumarches
  • ************
  • Posts: 12,573
  • Holy Father Patrick, pray for us!
  • Faith: Orthodox
Re: St. John Coltrane African Orthodox Church: not canonical, I gather...
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2011, 04:32:00 AM »
Maybe it's the painter's interpretation of what the name should be and how it should be spelled.  How can you judge, as you've never gotten to know the patron of the piece?

I owe you a cigar for that! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Am I posting? Or is it Schroedinger's Cat?

Offline Cognomen

  • Site Supporter
  • OC.net guru
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,972
  • Ungrateful Biped
Re: St. John Coltrane African Orthodox Church: not canonical, I gather...
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2011, 04:52:04 AM »
Maybe it's the painter's interpretation of what the name should be and how it should be spelled.  How can you judge, as you've never gotten to know the patron of the piece?
I owe you a cigar for that! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Splendid! When/where do I collect? 
Of course, you are owed far more than a cigar for your contribution towards keeping iconography on the right path. 
Sure beats my "Nuh uh, that's NOT correct iconography!!!  >:(" style of posting.
North American Eastern Orthodox Parish Council Delegate for the Canonization of Saints Twin Towers and Pentagon, as well as the Propagation of the Doctrine of the Assumption of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 (NAEOPCDCSTTPPDAMAFM®).

Offline LBK

  • No Reporting Allowed
  • Toumarches
  • ************
  • Posts: 12,573
  • Holy Father Patrick, pray for us!
  • Faith: Orthodox
Re: St. John Coltrane African Orthodox Church: not canonical, I gather...
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2011, 04:57:00 AM »
Quote
Splendid! When/where do I collect? 

Not sure if mailing tobacco products is legal in my neck of the woods.  ;)

Quote
Of course, you are owed far more than a cigar for your contribution towards keeping iconography on the right path.
Sure beats my "Nuh uh, that's NOT correct iconography!!!   >:( style of posting.

Hang around me long enough, Grasshopper, and your discernment is sure to increase.  :angel:  :laugh:
Am I posting? Or is it Schroedinger's Cat?

Offline Cognomen

  • Site Supporter
  • OC.net guru
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,972
  • Ungrateful Biped
Re: St. John Coltrane African Orthodox Church: not canonical, I gather...
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2011, 05:46:09 AM »
Quote
Splendid! When/where do I collect? 

Not sure if mailing tobacco products is legal in my neck of the woods.  ;)

I tried.  The dismay we could've shared in person, what with these kids today and their bogus "icons" would've been worth the meetup.  Alas, it was not to be. 

Quote
Hang around me long enough, Grasshopper, and your discernment is sure to increase.  :angel:  :laugh:

I eagerly await your instructions, sensei. 
North American Eastern Orthodox Parish Council Delegate for the Canonization of Saints Twin Towers and Pentagon, as well as the Propagation of the Doctrine of the Assumption of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 (NAEOPCDCSTTPPDAMAFM®).