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""Relations with Non-Orthodox -- Looking to the Future"
« on: June 15, 2005, 01:05:26 PM »
Hi all,

here is an interesting article i thought people here might be interested in, since many of us are OCA.

In Christ,
Donna Mary

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http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles5/OCAOutNCC.php
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Orthodox Church in America (OCA) considers withdrawal from the NCC

The following is an excerpt from an OCA position paper Orthodox Relations recently published on the OCA website.

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Relations with Non-Orthodox -- Looking to the Future

Perhaps the only simple thing about formal Orthodox relations with non-Orthodox Christians (usually called "ecumenical" relations) is their goal: the canonical reconciliation to the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church of those bodies and groups that have been separated from her for reasons of doctrine or church order. Indeed, the duty and responsibility of Orthodox Christians to work in a genuine and committed way for the healing and resolution of the innumerable schisms in Christian history is universally acknowledged throughout the Orthodox world, and throughout Orthodox history. This duty is a direct corollary of our claim to be the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. It is an essential part of the Church's continual work of mission and her witness to the fullness of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

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Re: ""Relations with Non-Orthodox -- Looking to the Future"
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2011, 03:09:39 PM »
Is OCA still in NCC?
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Re: ""Relations with Non-Orthodox -- Looking to the Future"
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2011, 05:49:41 PM »
Is OCA still in NCC?
I think that the Orthodox churches should get out of the NCC as a whole. I've followed it (the NCC) a bit and to me, they seems like just another group that gives the standard reactions to issues and meet together just to agree with each other. It serves no purpose. Money and time would be better spent in the Assembly of Canonical Orthodox Bishops.

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Re: ""Relations with Non-Orthodox -- Looking to the Future"
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2011, 05:57:59 PM »
Is OCA still in NCC?
I think that the Orthodox churches should get out of the NCC as a whole. I've followed it (the NCC) a bit and to me, they seems like just another group that gives the standard reactions to issues and meet together just to agree with each other. It serves no purpose. Money and time would be better spent in the Assembly of Canonical Orthodox Bishops.

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Re: ""Relations with Non-Orthodox -- Looking to the Future"
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2011, 06:12:21 PM »
Is OCA still in NCC?
I think that the Orthodox churches should get out of the NCC as a whole. I've followed it (the NCC) a bit and to me, they seems like just another group that gives the standard reactions to issues and meet together just to agree with each other. It serves no purpose. Money and time would be better spent in the Assembly of Canonical Orthodox Bishops.

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Re: ""Relations with Non-Orthodox -- Looking to the Future"
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2011, 06:02:55 PM »
Is OCA still in NCC?
I think that the Orthodox churches should get out of the NCC as a whole. I've followed it (the NCC) a bit and to me, they seems like just another group that gives the standard reactions to issues and meet together just to agree with each other. It serves no purpose. Money and time would be better spent in the Assembly of Canonical Orthodox Bishops.

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Re: ""Relations with Non-Orthodox -- Looking to the Future"
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2011, 08:41:03 PM »
Is OCA still in NCC?

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NCC?

I hate initialisms. I am going to guess National Council of Churches?

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Re: ""Relations with Non-Orthodox -- Looking to the Future"
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2011, 08:46:43 PM »
That sounds correct.
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Re: ""Relations with Non-Orthodox -- Looking to the Future"
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2011, 08:49:02 PM »

NCC?

I hate initialisms. I am going to guess National Council of Churches?


My guess, too. But take your pick: NCC

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Re: ""Relations with Non-Orthodox -- Looking to the Future"
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2011, 02:21:36 PM »

NCC?

I hate initialisms. I am going to guess National Council of Churches?


My guess, too. But take your pick: NCC
Yes, National Council of Churches.

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Re: ""Relations with Non-Orthodox -- Looking to the Future"
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2011, 03:05:25 PM »

NCC?

I hate initialisms. I am going to guess National Council of Churches?


My guess, too. But take your pick: NCC
Yes, National Council of Churches.

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Re: ""Relations with Non-Orthodox -- Looking to the Future"
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2011, 03:39:46 PM »

NCC?

I hate initialisms. I am going to guess National Council of Churches?


My guess, too. But take your pick: NCC
Yes, National Council of Churches.

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I'll sign on to your mental might  :laugh:

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Re: ""Relations with Non-Orthodox -- Looking to the Future"
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2011, 04:21:33 PM »

NCC?

I hate initialisms. I am going to guess National Council of Churches?


My guess, too. But take your pick: NCC
Yes, National Council of Churches.

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Evidence of my non-omniscience remains pending.
I'll sign on to your mental might  :laugh:

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Re: ""Relations with Non-Orthodox -- Looking to the Future"
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2011, 04:29:42 PM »

NCC?

I hate initialisms. I am going to guess National Council of Churches?


My guess, too. But take your pick: NCC
Yes, National Council of Churches.

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Evidence of my non-omniscience remains pending.
I'll sign on to your mental might  :laugh:

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Might doesn't always make right  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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Re: ""Relations with Non-Orthodox -- Looking to the Future"
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2011, 10:26:55 PM »
^Unless it is might for right.  (Disclaimer:  Apologies to Camelot)
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Re: ""Relations with Non-Orthodox -- Looking to the Future"
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2011, 11:05:47 PM »
^Unless it is might for right.  (Disclaimer:  Apologies to Camelot)

Don't apologize to a musical, apologize to TH White who wrote the book (The Once and Future King) on which the musical was based.


NCC?

I hate initialisms. I am going to guess National Council of Churches?


My guess, too. But take your pick: NCC

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Re: ""Relations with Non-Orthodox -- Looking to the Future"
« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2011, 11:03:48 AM »
^Unless it is might for right.  (Disclaimer:  Apologies to Camelot)

Don't apologize to a musical, apologize to TH White who wrote the book (The Once and Future King) on which the musical was based.


I'm aware of what the musical is based on, but I don't think White used that exact phrase.  It's been awhile since I've read it.
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Re: ""Relations with Non-Orthodox -- Looking to the Future"
« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2011, 04:44:01 PM »
That's a really good book, by the way.  :) Reminds me to go pick it up again.
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Re: ""Relations with Non-Orthodox -- Looking to the Future"
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2011, 03:59:47 AM »
So, is the OCA still in the NCCC?  Yes, believe it or not, when Protestant Christians and the Eastern Orthodox Christian Ecumenical Patriarchate, the Russian Orthodox Greek Catholic Metropolia (predecessor to the OCA), and the Romanian Orthodox Episcopate (of North America) first formed it, the Protestants were more traditional in their own perception, and it was named the "National Council of Churches of Christ," which remains its official name, to the best of my knowledge.

Do you notice that the NCCC has severely restricted its secular and leftist political rhetoric in recent years?  I haven't heard much from them lately, neither is the official Orthodox Church media commenting much about them these days.
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Re: ""Relations with Non-Orthodox -- Looking to the Future"
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2011, 05:05:36 AM »
CORRECTION TO MY REPLY NO. 18

IN THE SECOND SENTENCE IN MY POST ABOVE, I ERRONEOUSLY MENTION THE EASTERN ORTHODOX FOUNDERS OF THE NCCC.  THE ECUMENICAL PATRIARCHATE WAS NOT A FOUNDER OF THIS NORTH AMERICAN ORGANIZATION, EXCEPT THROUGH ITS GREEK ORTHODOX ARCHDIOCESE OF (N&S) AMERICA.  PLEASE EXCUSE THIS ERROR.  I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE FOUNDERS OF THE WORLD COUNCIL OF CHURCHES WHEN I WROTE THAT INFORMATION.  I IMAGIN THAT MOST OF WHAT WOULD LATER BECOME SCOBA MEMBERS WERE AMONG THE ORIGINAL FOUNDERS, BUT I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHICH CHURCHES WERE FOUNDERS OF THIS AMERICAN ORGANIZATION, THE NCCC.  TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, THIS IS THE ERROR OF THIS POST, AND I APOLIGIZE FOR DISTRIBUTING ERRONEOUS INFORMATION ON OUR "oc.net".
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