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Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« on: November 15, 2011, 11:38:42 PM »
When I entered the Church, I chose St. Tikhon of Moscow as my patron saint.  My "Christian name" became Tikhon.  At first, I had trouble getting used to it.  I kept picturing that tucan from George of the Jungle going "tuki, tuki!" when someone called me Tikhon. 

Now, I've found that I actually prefer to be called Tikhon.  Sometimes a priest I've met will call me Trevor, and I'll feel wrong in some way because he's not calling me Tikhon  ;)


I'm curious.  How did you converts get used to your new names?  Do you prefer them to your legal names?

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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2011, 01:21:48 AM »
Some of us had the benefit of already having Christian names.

My name is Matthew, and fortunately I was able to find an obscure clairvoyant with the same name so as not to completely curtail the exoticism in converting.
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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2011, 01:26:03 AM »
My priest actually prefers to call me by my real legal name. He is Jewish, so my actual name is easier for him to say and remember. I chose St. Xenia of St. Petersburg and he has a hard time saying it :D But he can't remember (or say correctly) any of our children's names, so he prefers to use their saint names. He didn't even announce the name of our youngest because he couldn't say it. He just said: " (my legal name) and her newly born daughter" during liturgy. ;D

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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2011, 01:46:56 AM »
When I entered the Church, I chose St. Tikhon of Moscow as my patron saint.  My "Christian name" became Tikhon.  At first, I had trouble getting used to it.  I kept picturing that tucan from George of the Jungle going "tuki, tuki!" when someone called me Tikhon. 

Now, I've found that I actually prefer to be called Tikhon.  Sometimes a priest I've met will call me Trevor, and I'll feel wrong in some way because he's not calling me Tikhon  ;)


I'm curious.  How did you converts get used to your new names?  Do you prefer them to your legal names?

I prefer my saint's name, but it is rarely used, even in a church environment. That said, it is easier for some people to remember (and spell!)--I make a point of stating my preference when I am introduced to someone who is used to a church environment (Orthodox or otherwise).
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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2011, 02:34:25 AM »
I can't really speak to it yet, except my priest told me that he would only use my name during Communion or whatever. No biggie. I never heard my name (St. Therese) again after I was confirmed in the Roman Catholic Church.

But a funny story: I told someone at my church about the saint I'm going to pick (because there is no saint with my real name), and she looked at me with a raised eyebrow and said, "You know there's no way we're calling you that, right?"  :laugh:

(And for the someone who will ask for the millionth time, It's Saint Kassiani. I guess it's even too much for the Greeks!)

I can't wait to make this easier on my children. I know that if I have twin boys, it's Cosmas and Damian. End of story.
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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2011, 02:45:02 AM »
Noooo, Damian will have to endure endless "The Omen" jokes.


As to the OP, I already have a saint's name.
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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2011, 02:47:27 AM »
My youngest daughter's saint name is Kassiane, a variation of Kassiani.

Then our other children are Paraskeve, Seraphim and Anna. The new baby still doesn't have a saint name. I am pulling for Meletios/Meletius, my husband is so far on the fence about that saint choice.

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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2011, 03:01:05 AM »
(And for the someone who will ask for the millionth time, It's Saint Kassiani. I guess it's even too much for the Greeks!)

Everyone knows there is only one name for Greek females: Maria and the variations thereof.
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2011, 05:01:45 AM »
I was surprised how quickly I learned to respond to Joseph. Now, if I'm meeting someone at a Church related event I introduce myself as Joseph. Some people, I believe, at church don't even know it's not my 'real' name. It helps though that 'Joseph' isn't really obscure. I do have a friend who I call Vladimir though his real name is...Jonathan? A man getting Chrismated at my parish will be going by Seraphim.

Actually the biggest issue I have with 'two names' is what to leave on my voicemail. If someone calls expecting to hear "You've reached Joseph" and hears instead "You've reached ______" I may miss out on messages!

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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2011, 08:02:02 AM »
Everyone knows there is only one name for Greek females: Maria and the variations thereof.

That's not fair! There is Eleni too...

Variations mean adding "oulla" to the end of any female name. People tell me it's cute, but whenever I hear the "oulla" variant of any name, I begin questioning the logic of the 6th commandment.

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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2011, 09:47:50 AM »
I prefer my new Christian name to my old name. It is a constant reminder of the new man I am in Christ. It took me a while to get used to introducing myself as "Gebre," but now I have no trouble with it. Of course, my wife still calls me by my birth name- lol. But I don't get offended by people who have known me for years prior to my baptism and still call me "Reynolds" (my first name by birth, which was my mother's maiden name).

Just remember that your new name was given to you by God, and verified by your baptism into Christ and His Church. It is also a great way to tell others about the Orthodox Faith. Inevitably, people will ask you about your name, and that will afford you the opportunity to share your Orthodox Christian testimony with them.

BTW, I love your baptism name! Never be ashamed of it!  :)


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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2011, 10:56:25 AM »
My names are often used interchangeably at church.  Birth name is Keith, Christian name is Kevin.   

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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2011, 11:43:04 AM »
I use my legal name, except at communion. Generally, priests and deacons (and once, a subdeacon) who do not know me will call me my baptismal name after a liturgy, and I don't bother to correct them, but if I am introducing myself to other people I just go with my legal name.

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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2011, 11:55:20 AM »
The only time I am referred to by my new name is during any sacraments, and on my blog which I haven't posted on in a while.
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2011, 05:11:44 PM »
I have a christian name but there are at least two saints with that name so I don't know who my patron saint will be.

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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2011, 05:21:20 PM »
Everyone knows there is only one name for Greek females: Maria and the variations thereof.

That's not fair! There is Eleni too...

Variations mean adding "oulla" to the end of any female name. People tell me it's cute, but whenever I hear the "oulla" variant of any name, I begin questioning the logic of the 6th commandment.

"-oulla" screams frumpy greengrocer with bad female moustache to me. Not cute.
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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2011, 05:32:19 PM »
I can't really speak to it yet, except my priest told me that he would only use my name during Communion or whatever. No biggie. I never heard my name (St. Therese) again after I was confirmed in the Roman Catholic Church.

But a funny story: I told someone at my church about the saint I'm going to pick (because there is no saint with my real name), and she looked at me with a raised eyebrow and said, "You know there's no way we're calling you that, right?"  :laugh:

(And for the someone who will ask for the millionth time, It's Saint Kassiani. I guess it's even too much for the Greeks!)

I can't wait to make this easier on my children. I know that if I have twin boys, it's Cosmas and Damian. End of story.

I'm surprised to hear people struggle with Kassiani. I've known several, and think it's a beautiful name.

I suppose after living in an area with a lot of Hindu names (names usually contain 14 consanents and one vowel), Greek names are easy to me. *shrugs shoulders*
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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2011, 05:33:15 PM »
Everyone knows there is only one name for Greek females: Maria and the variations thereof.

That's not fair! There is Eleni too...

Variations mean adding "oulla" to the end of any female name. People tell me it's cute, but whenever I hear the "oulla" variant of any name, I begin questioning the logic of the 6th commandment.

"-oulla" screams frumpy greengrocer with bad female moustache to me. Not cute.

Then there are the male diminutive names ending with -aki: Saki, Laki, Taki, Maki ... and the Russian pet names ending with -sha: Misha, Grisha, Sasha, Alyosha, Pasha (male); Masha, Tanusha, Sasha, Gasha, Natasha (female).  :D
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« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2011, 05:34:12 PM »
^ The hysterical part is that the people who told me this were Greeks!

Most of the people at my church are lovely, but hyperdox they are not. I don't hear them using someone's saint name unless it's to wish them a happy saint day or to crack a church joke.
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« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2011, 05:56:06 PM »
Everyone knows there is only one name for Greek females: Maria and the variations thereof.

That's not fair! There is Eleni too...

Variations mean adding "oulla" to the end of any female name. People tell me it's cute, but whenever I hear the "oulla" variant of any name, I begin questioning the logic of the 6th commandment.

That's not the adultery commandment, is it?
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« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2011, 06:02:57 PM »
That's not the adultery commandment, is it?

The murder one. My association with that variation is pretty much the same as Akimori's, so adultery is not the first thing to cross my mind when I hear it.

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« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2011, 06:32:35 PM »
My *not so new* Orthodox name is my middle *fairly old* Christian name. I have never been called by that middle name, though it's a name I rather like, and was suitable to use when becoming Orthodox. The only time it is used is when taking the sacraments. There has only been one person who persisted in using it beyond then, when I obviously preferred to go by my known name. Old habits die hard.

If I had known at the time of becoming Orthodox that I could have been baptised with my first Christian name, the one I was christened with a three months old and later confirmed into the Anglican Church, I would have done so in honour of my parents' dedication.  But there was such a fuss about "taking a saint's name" I thought it was something that was a fixed rule. When my daughter-in-law was seeking a saint's name before her baptism, I found out differently. The priest told her not to bother; that she could keep her name and simply celebrate her name day on All Saints.
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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2011, 11:58:58 PM »
My patron saint's name also happens to be my middle name which was kind of intentional.

The only time I am called by my saint's name is for communion. When introducing myself to anyone new at church, I always give the name my parents gave to me.  Everyone at church calls me by this name.  Just because I'm Orthodox doesn't mean and shouldn't mean I am required to give it up (my legal name is also a saint's name--a great martyr).
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« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2011, 12:29:57 AM »
Yeah my parents gave me a perfectly good Christian name. As fun as going by Barsanuphius might have been there was no reason to take a new one.  ;D

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« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2011, 12:43:34 AM »
I suppose it'll take me a while to get used to a new name, when I get one.  :)
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« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2011, 12:48:44 AM »
I suppose it'll take me a while to get used to a new name, when I get one.  :)
Have any ideas yet, Biro? :)
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« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2011, 01:00:50 AM »
Maria, which is similar to my middle name; Thekla or Irene, also possible, because I sit near their stained glass windows in church.  ;D
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« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2011, 01:03:04 AM »
LOL, I know what you mean. I sit next to Sts. Constantine and Helen and I'm now drawn to attending a Constantine and Helen church for a service someday. Seeing the icon is a comfort.

The names you want to choose are lovely -- very GREEK ;D
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« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2011, 01:03:35 AM »
Thank you.   :)
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« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2011, 01:41:32 AM »
Maria, which is similar to my middle name; Thekla or Irene, also possible, because I sit near their stained glass windows in church.  ;D
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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2011, 01:43:55 AM »
I can't really speak to it yet, except my priest told me that he would only use my name during Communion or whatever. No biggie. I never heard my name (St. Therese) again after I was confirmed in the Roman Catholic Church.

But a funny story: I told someone at my church about the saint I'm going to pick (because there is no saint with my real name), and she looked at me with a raised eyebrow and said, "You know there's no way we're calling you that, right?"  :laugh:

(And for the someone who will ask for the millionth time, It's Saint Kassiani. I guess it's even too much for the Greeks!)

I can't wait to make this easier on my children. I know that if I have twin boys, it's Cosmas and Damian. End of story.
I googled Kassiani.  I thought she seemed fine, and it is a fine name.  Don't know why some of your comrads have trouble with it.

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« Reply #31 on: November 17, 2011, 01:45:09 AM »
I toyed with the name Aphrodite. Only for a moment or two. ;)
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« Reply #32 on: November 17, 2011, 06:02:15 PM »
I toyed with the name Aphrodite. Only for a moment or two. ;)

Is there a saint named Aphrodite?
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« Reply #33 on: November 17, 2011, 06:25:28 PM »
I toyed with the name Aphrodite. Only for a moment or two. ;)

Is there a saint named Aphrodite?
Yep. And Dionysius, Narcissus, Zeus (iirc), Mercurius, and then of course Martin is derived from Mars, Demetrius from Demeter and Isidore means "gift of Isis."

There's also a St. Plato  ;D
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« Reply #34 on: November 17, 2011, 06:28:32 PM »
I toyed with the name Aphrodite. Only for a moment or two. ;)

Is there a saint named Aphrodite?

Yes indeed.

St. Aphrodite was a martyr who gave her life for her conviction that an eternal living relationship of love with Jesus Christ,  the Holy Trinity, and all of the Saints of Heaven is worth more than life itself on earth.  This witness, which is the meaning of the Greek word “martyr,” has defined the very nature of Christianity from the very beginning of that witness of those who willingly gave their life without hurting anyone else, but rather suffering often in torture and death without complaint, blame, or resentment.  This is very different than the Islamic idea of martyrs who kill others, as the Christian witness is always with love and mercy towards all.

St. Aphrodite’s name in Greek means “born from the sea,” which in her case was the Sea of Faith.  This Faith is stronger than death, and more eloquent that all words and ideas, as it is proven in following the icon of the Lamb of God Who was silent before His accusers, and although almighty, did not defend Himself, but willing went to death innocent and blameless.  In this icon, St. Aphrodite’s cross signifies that she is a martyr, and her open hand symbolizes her willing acceptance of suffering for Jesus Christ.


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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #35 on: November 17, 2011, 06:29:09 PM »
I toyed with the name Aphrodite. Only for a moment or two. ;)

Is there a saint named Aphrodite?
Yep. And Dionysius, Narcissus, Zeus (iirc), Mercurius, and then of course Martin is derived from Mars, Demetrius from Demeter and Isidore means "gift of Isis."

There's also a St. Plato  ;D

and St Sokrates.
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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #36 on: November 17, 2011, 06:33:37 PM »
I toyed with the name Aphrodite. Only for a moment or two. ;)

Is there a saint named Aphrodite?

Yes, there is. She is one of the Forty Venerable Virgin-Martyrs, feastday September 1.
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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #37 on: November 17, 2011, 06:38:58 PM »
I toyed with the name Aphrodite. Only for a moment or two. ;)

Is there a saint named Aphrodite?
Yep. And Dionysius, Narcissus, Zeus (iirc), Mercurius, and then of course Martin is derived from Mars, Demetrius from Demeter and Isidore means "gift of Isis."

There's also a St. Plato  ;D

and St Sokrates.
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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #38 on: November 17, 2011, 06:40:58 PM »
I've never heard anyone adopting a different name due to conversion in Finland. People have their patrons but that's about it. Finns use regular names even for the sacraments. Changing names is only for the monastics.

I do admit though that I raised some eyebrows when I heard name of a Finnish Pagan god during chrismation couple of months ago. :angel:
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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #39 on: November 17, 2011, 10:24:54 PM »
Like others, I also kept my Christian name---I loved my patron saint the Holy Apostle Thomas.

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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #40 on: November 18, 2011, 01:16:04 AM »
My name is Peter and I was not asked to adopt another name when I was baptized.  It would have felt strange to me to take a Slavic or Greek name to use at church.  Reminds me of when people join a Hindu sect and take the name Sivanada or such.  Did the early converts in Apostolic times change their names when becoming Christians, such as Cornelius the centurion?
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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #41 on: November 18, 2011, 01:41:32 AM »
I can't really speak to it yet, except my priest told me that he would only use my name during Communion or whatever. No biggie. I never heard my name (St. Therese) again after I was confirmed in the Roman Catholic Church.

But a funny story: I told someone at my church about the saint I'm going to pick (because there is no saint with my real name), and she looked at me with a raised eyebrow and said, "You know there's no way we're calling you that, right?"  :laugh:

(And for the someone who will ask for the millionth time, It's Saint Kassiani. I guess it's even too much for the Greeks!)

I can't wait to make this easier on my children. I know that if I have twin boys, it's Cosmas and Damian. End of story.
I googled Kassiani.  I thought she seemed fine, and it is a fine name.  Don't know why some of your comrads have trouble with it.

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Here is an English version by Boston Byzantine Choir.

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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #42 on: November 18, 2011, 01:51:01 AM »
Did the early converts in Apostolic times change their names when becoming Christians....


    Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. - (Matthew 16:17-18)

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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #43 on: November 18, 2011, 01:54:10 AM »
Did the early converts in Apostolic times change their names when becoming Christians....


    Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. - (Matthew 16:17-18)

That seems like a unique example.  I would appear that the Greeks and Romans that were brought to Christianity by St. Paul kept their given names (as far as I can tell).

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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #44 on: November 18, 2011, 02:37:12 AM »
My name is Peter and I was not asked to adopt another name when I was baptized.  It would have felt strange to me to take a Slavic or Greek name to use at church.  Reminds me of when people join a Hindu sect and take the name Sivanada or such.  Did the early converts in Apostolic times change their names when becoming Christians, such as Cornelius the centurion?

Clearly, they didn't. Or we wouldn't have any saints called Aphrodite, Dionysius, Sokrates, Longinus, etc, etc. As a general rule, early Christians didn't seem to feel the need to change the names they were given by pagan parents.
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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #45 on: November 20, 2011, 09:26:35 PM »
My real first name (I go by a nickname) is James. Would I be able to keep that as my Christian name? I have no issue with taking a new name if necessary, but if I can stick with this as it, I'd like to.
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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #46 on: November 20, 2011, 09:38:44 PM »
My real first name (I go by a nickname) is James. Would I be able to keep that as my Christian name? I have no issue with taking a new name if necessary, but if I can stick with this as it, I'd like to.
Yeah, you totally can. There's lots of great Sts. James to chose from.
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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #47 on: November 20, 2011, 09:43:19 PM »
My real first name (I go by a nickname) is James. Would I be able to keep that as my Christian name? I have no issue with taking a new name if necessary, but if I can stick with this as it, I'd like to.
No, it has to be an ethnic name of the jurisdiction that you are joining. I first wanted to choose St. Xenia but my priest slammed his fist on the table and said, "DOES THIS LOOK LIKE ROCOR TO YOU?" And so I chose a Greek saint.

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Just kidding. My priest encouraged using your already existing name, saying that we had it for some reason. You can pick a different one if you want, but staying with your name sounds perfectly okay.  :)
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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #48 on: November 20, 2011, 09:50:54 PM »
My real first name (I go by a nickname) is James. Would I be able to keep that as my Christian name? I have no issue with taking a new name if necessary, but if I can stick with this as it, I'd like to.
No, it has to be an ethnic name of the jurisdiction that you are joining. I first wanted to choose St. Xenia but my priest slammed his fist on the table and said, "DOES THIS LOOK LIKE ROCOR TO YOU?" And so I chose a Greek saint.

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Just kidding. My priest encouraged using your already existing name, saying that we had it for some reason. You can pick a different one if you want, but staying with your name sounds perfectly okay.  :)

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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #49 on: November 20, 2011, 09:53:24 PM »
My real first name (I go by a nickname) is James. Would I be able to keep that as my Christian name? I have no issue with taking a new name if necessary, but if I can stick with this as it, I'd like to.
No, it has to be an ethnic name of the jurisdiction that you are joining. I first wanted to choose St. Xenia but my priest slammed his fist on the table and said, "DOES THIS LOOK LIKE ROCOR TO YOU?" And so I chose a Greek saint.

 :P
Just kidding. My priest encouraged using your already existing name, saying that we had it for some reason. You can pick a different one if you want, but staying with your name sounds perfectly okay.  :)

LOL, thanks, for the advice guys.
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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #50 on: November 21, 2011, 09:14:53 PM »
Augustine of Hippo :) I'm a catechumate and I have my heart set on him. I love the 'Confessions'. I wonder how my Protestant family will react when they hear me address myself as Augustine.
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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #51 on: November 21, 2011, 09:18:33 PM »
Augustine of Hippo :) I'm a catechumate and I have my heart set on him. I love the 'Confessions'. I wonder how my Protestant family will react when they hear me address myself as Augustine.
I find it's best not to do things solely for the sake of shocking Protestant relatives. For this reason, I plan to stay a Joseph, and I will continue to bite my tongue whenever certain topics come up.
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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #52 on: November 21, 2011, 09:36:44 PM »
Why? You have been lucky enough to find the TRUE Church, the oldest Church, the one established by the Apostles, the one Jesus said would never fall. The bus to salvation. Why keep quiet about it? We should proclaim it and share it with others.
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« Reply #53 on: November 21, 2011, 09:51:01 PM »
Well, I suppose it's a matter of intent. We can proclaim the truth of the Church, or we can sow controversy. I love the latter too much to trust myself not to do it. I'll explain something about Orthodoxy if I'm asked of course, but I typically limit myself to that. My parents still don't "get" the perpetual virginity of the Theotokos.
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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #54 on: November 21, 2011, 10:11:33 PM »
Well, I suppose it's a matter of intent. We can proclaim the truth of the Church, or we can sow controversy. I love the latter too much to trust myself not to do it. I'll explain something about Orthodoxy if I'm asked of course, but I typically limit myself to that. My parents still don't "get" the perpetual virginity of the Theotokos.

To be honest..I don't even know what the perpetual Virginity of the Theotokos is entirely. I'm just a catechumate.
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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #55 on: November 27, 2011, 01:14:23 AM »
My real first name (I go by a nickname) is James. Would I be able to keep that as my Christian name? I have no issue with taking a new name if necessary, but if I can stick with this as it, I'd like to.

My real first name is John (I go by my middle name).  St. John the Theologian is my Patron and that is what I am called at communion.

But I will confess, the only people who ever call me John are my priest and the staff at the doctor's office (who only know my name from my chart).

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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #56 on: November 27, 2011, 01:32:33 AM »
Why? You have been lucky enough to find the TRUE Church, the oldest Church, the one established by the Apostles, the one Jesus said would never fall. The bus to salvation. Why keep quiet about it? We should proclaim it and share it with others.

It is an Airbus btw . . .

And why change your name, if it is a "Christian" name other than to LARP. Or if you are doing it under an act of obedience when becoming a monastic to show you are dying to the world.

The answer: none. Really I don't want to hear the "spiritual" connection stuff.

Proclaim what?

We Preach Christ crucified not the perpetual virginity of the Theotokos, icons, monasticism, etc.

Christ crucified. The rest is part of the life of the Church. They ain't in it. No need to bring it up, especially if you think it will sow division.

If they ask about more, invite them to Great Vespers.

Getting roped into the these "discussions" is rarely profitable. I only discuss such stuff here and with other Orthodox in RL.

The rest of the time, I just invite folks to stop by at 6 PM on a Saturday evening and offer to discuss whatever questions they might have afterward to the degree I can.

Triumphalism sounds all fine and dandy maybe, but it is really a bore. Acknowledging what is held in common and extending an invitation to come and see is more much profitable IMHO.



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« Reply #57 on: November 27, 2011, 01:52:53 AM »
I already have a Greek name. Kinda sucks I wanted Vasily.
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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #58 on: November 27, 2011, 09:59:54 AM »
I think I like both my names.  My legal name is BethAnna - which means Daughter of Grace.  My Christian name is Photini, meaning Illumined One.  I get goose bumps when I hear either one spoken by someone of the True Faith.   

I'm with you, though, Tikhon, there's just something about being called by my Christian name.  :)
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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #59 on: November 27, 2011, 12:19:37 PM »
When I started going to the Orthodox Church, I knew that I wanted to convert (I studied ahead of visiting my local parish and I have Orthodox relatives). I introduced myself to people by my middle name, Zechariah. I was named for the Old Testament Prophet, Zechariah. People call me: Zechariah, Zachariah, Zacharias, Zachary, Zach, etc. :P I dislike being called Zach. :)

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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #60 on: November 28, 2011, 07:37:40 PM »
Why? You have been lucky enough to find the TRUE Church, the oldest Church, the one established by the Apostles, the one Jesus said would never fall. The bus to salvation. Why keep quiet about it? We should proclaim it and share it with others.

It is an Airbus btw . . .

And why change your name, if it is a "Christian" name other than to LARP. Or if you are doing it under an act of obedience when becoming a monastic to show you are dying to the world.

The answer: none. Really I don't want to hear the "spiritual" connection stuff.

Proclaim what?

We Preach Christ crucified not the perpetual virginity of the Theotokos, icons, monasticism, etc.

Christ crucified. The rest is part of the life of the Church. They ain't in it. No need to bring it up, especially if you think it will sow division.

If they ask about more, invite them to Great Vespers.

Getting roped into the these "discussions" is rarely profitable. I only discuss such stuff here and with other Orthodox in RL.

The rest of the time, I just invite folks to stop by at 6 PM on a Saturday evening and offer to discuss whatever questions they might have afterward to the degree I can.

Triumphalism sounds all fine and dandy maybe, but it is really a bore. Acknowledging what is held in common and extending an invitation to come and see is more much profitable IMHO.




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« Reply #61 on: November 28, 2011, 10:09:25 PM »
Why? You have been lucky enough to find the TRUE Church, the oldest Church, the one established by the Apostles, the one Jesus said would never fall. The bus to salvation. Why keep quiet about it? We should proclaim it and share it with others.

It is an Airbus btw . . .

And why change your name, if it is a "Christian" name other than to LARP. Or if you are doing it under an act of obedience when becoming a monastic to show you are dying to the world.

The answer: none. Really I don't want to hear the "spiritual" connection stuff.

Proclaim what?

We Preach Christ crucified not the perpetual virginity of the Theotokos, icons, monasticism, etc.

Christ crucified. The rest is part of the life of the Church. They ain't in it. No need to bring it up, especially if you think it will sow division.

If they ask about more, invite them to Great Vespers.

Getting roped into the these "discussions" is rarely profitable. I only discuss such stuff here and with other Orthodox in RL.

The rest of the time, I just invite folks to stop by at 6 PM on a Saturday evening and offer to discuss whatever questions they might have afterward to the degree I can.

Triumphalism sounds all fine and dandy maybe, but it is really a bore. Acknowledging what is held in common and extending an invitation to come and see is more much profitable IMHO.




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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #62 on: November 28, 2011, 10:33:44 PM »
And why change your name, if it is a "Christian" name other than to LARP.

You are such a buzz kill! Just let us have our strange and sexy names. I can't wait to see my square Protestant parents totally freak when I become Phaedrus and tell them that I am turning into a god! I know it's a good name because I can't pronounce it yet, plus my inflection is off when referring to the catechumenate, because I still have so much to learn LOL.

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« Reply #63 on: November 28, 2011, 10:37:47 PM »
And why change your name, if it is a "Christian" name other than to LARP.

You are such a buzz kill! Just let us have our strange and sexy names. I can't wait to see my square Protestant parents totally freak when I become Phaedrus and tell them that I am turning into a god! I know it's a good name because I can't pronounce it yet, plus my inflection is off when referring to the catechumenate, because I still have so much to learn LOL.
Not to mention the all the neo-platonism you would exhibit with such a name.
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« Reply #64 on: November 28, 2011, 10:40:19 PM »
Not to mention the all the neo-platonism you would exhibit with such a name.

Only the True Old Platonism for me.

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« Reply #65 on: November 28, 2011, 10:52:58 PM »
Not to mention the all the neo-platonism you would exhibit with such a name.

Only the True Old Platonism for me.

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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #66 on: November 29, 2011, 04:08:26 PM »
And why change your name, if it is a "Christian" name other than to LARP.

You are such a buzz kill! Just let us have our strange and sexy names. I can't wait to see my square Protestant parents totally freak when I become Phaedrus and tell them that I am turning into a god! I know it's a good name because I can't pronounce it yet, plus my inflection is off when referring to the catechumenate, because I still have so much to learn LOL.
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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #67 on: November 29, 2011, 05:35:38 PM »
My real first name (I go by a nickname) is James. Would I be able to keep that as my Christian name? I have no issue with taking a new name if necessary, but if I can stick with this as it, I'd like to.
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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #68 on: November 29, 2011, 07:25:44 PM »
Because my name is Nicholas (from the Old English neeklessen, meaning "nickle-less" or a poor person), I do not need to change my name to be more humble.
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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #69 on: November 29, 2011, 07:27:03 PM »
I am not a LARPer, I just like adding more and more names to my passport.  8)
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« Reply #70 on: November 29, 2011, 07:47:46 PM »
Because my name is Nicholas...

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Re: Converts: Getting used to your new name?
« Reply #71 on: December 01, 2011, 10:09:54 AM »
My legal name and my chrismation name are the same.  However, I sometimes feel that I don't live up to my name now.