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The good book: Bible helps researchers perfect translation algorithms

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Internet tools to translate text between languages like English and Spanish are widely available. Creating style translators -- tools that keep text in the same language but transform the style -- have been much slower to emerge. In part, efforts to develop the translators have been stymied by the difficulty of acquiring the enormous amount of data required. This is where the research team turned to the Bible.
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“The Bible is a 'divine' data set to work with to study this task," said Daniel Rockmore, a professor of computer science at Dartmouth and contributing author on the study. "Humans have been performing the task of organizing Bible texts for centuries, so we didn't have to put our faith into less reliable alignment algorithms."
I’m still waiting for the Bible to be translated into JavaScript.
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Re: The good book: Bible helps researchers perfect translation algorithms
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2018, 11:50:24 AM »
JW's claim that their automatic translation technology is one of the most advanced in the world, but they refuse to reveal it. Given how easily they translate their books to so many obscure languages, I don't doubt it.
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Re: The good book: Bible helps researchers perfect translation algorithms
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2018, 11:40:24 AM »
I'm afraid that they'll end up with an algorithm that yields the same results as Jehovah's Witnesses' and Mormons' translations.
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Re: The good book: Bible helps researchers perfect translation algorithms
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2018, 02:16:48 PM »
JW's claim that their automatic translation technology is one of the most advanced in the world, but they refuse to reveal it. Given how easily they translate their books to so many obscure languages, I don't doubt it.

Easily, sure.  But how good are the translations?
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Re: The good book: Bible helps researchers perfect translation algorithms
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2018, 01:05:47 PM »
JW's claim that their automatic translation technology is one of the most advanced in the world, but they refuse to reveal it. Given how easily they translate their books to so many obscure languages, I don't doubt it.
Easily, sure.  But how good are the translations?
Their booklets seem to have great translations, I've checked "What does the Bible really teach?" in some languages. Their Bible, OTOH, is trash.
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Re: The good book: Bible helps researchers perfect translation algorithms
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2018, 01:20:46 PM »
The good book: Bible helps researchers perfect translation algorithms

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Internet tools to translate text between languages like English and Spanish are widely available. Creating style translators -- tools that keep text in the same language but transform the style -- have been much slower to emerge. In part, efforts to develop the translators have been stymied by the difficulty of acquiring the enormous amount of data required. This is where the research team turned to the Bible.
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“The Bible is a 'divine' data set to work with to study this task," said Daniel Rockmore, a professor of computer science at Dartmouth and contributing author on the study. "Humans have been performing the task of organizing Bible texts for centuries, so we didn't have to put our faith into less reliable alignment algorithms."
I’m still waiting for the Bible to be translated into JavaScript.

Since the universe was surely written in some dialect of LISP, and since humans undoubtably spoke this most divine language before the Tower of Babel, its restoration into proper S-Expressions would be meet and right. 

Or at the very least, a language with a “let” function.

C-style comments /* like this */ or if limited to one line, // in the manner of C++ and C99 would also be useful for commentaries and the farcing of Psalms that exist, for example, in the Assyrian liturgy.
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Re: The good book: Bible helps researchers perfect translation algorithms
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2018, 01:21:53 PM »
I'm afraid that they'll end up with an algorithm that yields the same results as Jehovah's Witnesses' and Mormons' translations.

Fear not.  The Mormons tend to use the KJV; the Jehovahs Witnesses have been proven to have fradulently interpolated and mistranslated John 1:1 for doctrinal reasons.
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Re: The good book: Bible helps researchers perfect translation algorithms
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2018, 01:23:38 PM »
JW's claim that their automatic translation technology is one of the most advanced in the world, but they refuse to reveal it. Given how easily they translate their books to so many obscure languages, I don't doubt it.

Proprietary software is evil.  If they want to substantiate their boast, they should at least publish the source code, even if they don’t actually release it under an open source license.
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Re: The good book: Bible helps researchers perfect translation algorithms
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2018, 01:35:37 PM »
They're much more interested in making accessible books than on their nice software, though.  :P
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