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Offline biro

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Greek PM steps down, makes farewell speech
« on: November 09, 2011, 01:57:11 PM »
Prime Minister George Papandreou of Greece has stepped down, and given his farewell speech, as the country continues to search for solutions to its debt problems. Discussions between the major political parties were conducted, in order to form a unity government.

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Mr Papandreou gave no indication of who his successor might be but said a new government had now been agreed.

Without the bailout, Greece risks bankruptcy and an exit from the euro.
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Re: Greek PM steps down, makes farewell speech
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2011, 01:16:17 AM »
Does Mr. Papandreou have sons?  Since he, his father and his grandfather were all prime ministers of Greece (and all responsible in some way of causing the problems that Greece is currently in), I'm sure that a fourth Papandreou will probably come out of the woodwork sooner or later.

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Re: Greek PM steps down, makes farewell speech
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2011, 08:32:08 AM »
I don't think George Papandreou is responsible for the problems Greece has been experiencing the past several years, except that, as a Pan Hellenic Socialist Movement (PASOK) member, he supported the excessive socialistic policies that brought Greece to the horrendous state that it is in today.  He's a man of integrity who is respected by world leaders; he was the Foreign Minister the last time (5 years ago?) PASOK was in the majority.   And I think only a PASOK leader could pull off the imposition of the austerity measures that are needed to return Greece to some level of budgetary sanity. I feel bad for him; in a normal economic climate, he could have been a successful Prime Minister.  His shortcoming, is that, as a socialist, he could not even think of doing anything to encourage private industrial development in Greece, something his father, Andreas destroyed.  His father and his followers are responsible for the destruction of Greece.  Andreas Papandreou also lacked moral bearing and integrity.  I don't know if Samaras or any of the Nea Democratia leaders have anything of value to bring to the agenda, their last tour of office was a disaster.  I fear that the opposition leaders are dwarfs and may not have the clout to lead Greece though the reforms it so desperately needs, nor do they had relationships with leaders of other nations.  I also get the impression that outside of Papandreou, the Greek politicians are not taking responsibility for the debt Greece incurred, and find it expedient to blame the financial institutions.  I wish New Democracy would have agreed to a unity government which would have included Papandreou.
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Re: Greek PM steps down, makes farewell speech
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2011, 08:24:08 PM »
First, I agree with most of what is in the above post.

I also get the impression that outside of Papandreou, the Greek politicians are not taking responsibility for the debt Greece incurred, and find it expedient to blame the financial institutions. 

This is something I am upset about at present.  You're absolutely right - and because they are throwing the blame, it is detracting from any serious scrutiny that does belong at the feet of the (predatory) financial institutions.  I've heard a few folks who have no "dog in the fight" level some well-reasoned criticisms at financial institutions who helped facilitate the situation; these criticisms will be completely ignored in because of the rallying cry, "We didn't do anything wrong - it's all the investment banks and hedge-fund managers' faults!"
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Re: Greek PM steps down, makes farewell speech
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2011, 08:27:38 PM »
It has become foreign to Greek culture to take responsibility for anything.
The Episcopallian road is easy and wide, for many go through it to find destruction. lol sorry channeling Isa.

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Re: Greek PM steps down, makes farewell speech
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2011, 01:51:12 PM »
It has become foreign to Greek culture to take responsibility for anything.

Except the good stuff - you know, philosophy, medicine, the alphabet, the foundations of modern western culture and society, science, mathematics, philology, philanthropy, the Olympics, etc.
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Re: Greek PM steps down, makes farewell speech
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2011, 02:08:19 PM »
Yes Father, all the good of a great people is pre-PASOK.
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Re: Greek PM steps down, makes farewell speech
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2011, 10:21:12 PM »
It has become foreign to Greek culture to take responsibility for anything.

Except the good stuff - you know, philosophy, medicine, the alphabet, the foundations of modern western culture and society, science, mathematics, philology, philanthropy, the Olympics, etc.

Indeed. All of our triumphs are ours and our failings are the Americans' or the Europeans'.
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Re: Greek PM steps down, makes farewell speech
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2011, 12:03:49 PM »
so what do u all think about the european 'government' making 2 heads of state resign?
looks a bit like the beginning of one world government to me.

i think we had better redouble our efforts to tell the world about God's great salvation, maybe we don't have another 100 years to get round to it...