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A fiery debate has erupted over a leading Southern Baptist apologist's questioning of Matthew 27. The question: whether Matthew's reference to many saints rising from their graves after Jesus' resurrection might not be literal history.
The theological war of words, spurred by high-profile open letters and retorts on the Internet, has raised questions about the meaning of biblical inerrancy. It has also led to the departure of Michael Licona as apologetics coordinator for the North American Mission Board (NAMB).
At issue is a passage of Licona's 700-page The Resurrection of Jesus: A New Historiographical Approach, published in 2010 by InterVarsity Press.
"Based on my reading of the Greco-Roman, Jewish, and biblical literature, I proposed that the raised saints are best interpreted as Matthew's use of an apocalyptic symbol communicating that the Son of God had just died," said Licona, former research professor of New Testament at Southern Evangelical Seminary in Charlotte, North Carolina. Licona voluntarily resigned from the seminary on October 4 after the print version of this article went to press. .... Daniel B. Wallace, New Testament professor at Dallas Theological Seminary, said he disagrees with Licona's interpretation but considers the issue hermeneutical, not a challenge to biblical inerrancy.
"If we view our own interpretation to be just as inerrant as the Scriptures," he said, "this could ironically elevate tradition and erode biblical authority."
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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2011, 10:01:08 AM » |
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"If we view our own interpretation to be just as inerrant as the Scriptures," he said, "this could ironically elevate tradition and erode biblical authority." [/size][/font]
[/quote] (bolded text mine) *very heavy sigh* 
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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2011, 10:30:31 AM » |
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"If we view our own interpretation to be just as inerrant as the Scriptures," he said, "this could ironically elevate tradition and erode biblical authority." [/size][/font]
(bolded text mine) *very heavy sigh*  [/quote] God forbid tradition be elevated! But seriously does he really think that to elevate tradition would cause biblical authority to erode? Oh, wait he is a sola scripturaist, nevermind.
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You know a large part of what brought me to the point I'm at, was the realization that all churches have tradition. It's just that some admit it. And, all churches view their tradition as the only way to understand the Bible, it's just that some have an unbroken line of tradition and understanding that goes back to when the New Testement was written and before.
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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2011, 11:22:02 PM » |
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You know a large part of what brought me to the point I'm at, was the realization that all churches have tradition. It's just that some admit it. And, all churches view their tradition as the only way to understand the Bible, it's just that some have an unbroken line of tradition and understanding that goes back to when the New Testement was written and before.
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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2011, 12:14:50 AM » |
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You know a large part of what brought me to the point I'm at, was the realization that all churches have tradition. It's just that some admit it. And, all churches view their tradition as the only way to understand the Bible, it's just that some have an unbroken line of tradition and understanding that goes back to when the New Testement was written and before.
+1 I've seen this sort of response before, but what does it mean?
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2011, 09:01:30 AM » |
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You know a large part of what brought me to the point I'm at, was the realization that all churches have tradition. It's just that some admit it. And, all churches view their tradition as the only way to understand the Bible, it's just that some have an unbroken line of tradition and understanding that goes back to when the New Testement was written and before.
+1 I've seen this sort of response before, but what does it mean? I use it to show that I agree and also like the response
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You know a large part of what brought me to the point I'm at, was the realization that all churches have tradition. It's just that some admit it. And, all churches view their tradition as the only way to understand the Bible, it's just that some have an unbroken line of tradition and understanding that goes back to when the New Testement was written and before.
+1 I've seen this sort of response before, but what does it mean? I use it to show that I agree and also like the response Okay, cool, and thanks.
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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2011, 12:00:50 PM » |
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A few weeks ago, I attended a conference on evangelicalism held at the seminary from which Licona just resigned -- Southern Evangelical Seminary. They are nice folks, but pretty hard-core conservative-fundamentalist: We believe in the special creation of the entire space-time universe and of every basic form of life in the six historic days of the Genesis creation record. We also believe in the historicity of the biblical record, including the special creation of Adam and Eve as the literal progenitors of all people, the literal fall and resultant divine curse on the creation, the worldwide flood, and the origin of nations and diverse languages at the tower of Babel. .... We believe in the personal, imminent, and premillennial return of the Lord Jesus Christ for His redeemed ones followed by His millennial reign on earth. .... We believe that man was originally created in the image and likeness of God, and that he fell through sin; and that as a consequence of his sin, he became dead in trespasses and sins, and that he became subject to the power of the devil. We also believe that this spiritual death, or total depravity of human nature, has been transmitted to the entire human race, the Man Christ Jesus alone being excepted; and hence that every child of Adam is born into the world with a nature that is totally corrupt.
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If you will, you can become all flame. Extra caritatem nulla salus. In order to become whole, take the "I" out of "holiness". I'm not a witch. Ἄνω σχῶμεν τὰς καρδίας "Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." -- Mohandas Gandhi Y dduw bo'r diolch.
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