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« on: October 24, 2011, 12:05:45 PM »

I had no idea where to put this, so if it's wrong please scoot it. thanks.

Anyways, I dont know if this has been touched on before or not, but I keep hearing about a Pan-Orthodox gathering sometime in 2012 or 2013. What would be discussed (decided)?

Would anything be done with the multitude of jurisdictions in the USA be one? If this has been talked about, I apologize. AFR is doing a bunch of interviews with various hierarchs and it's been brought up 3 or 4 times but each time the Bishops kind of deflect it (its been mentioned on OCN a few times too.

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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2011, 12:30:34 PM »

There is a plan to have a Pan-Orthodox Council that would discuss the Orthodox in Diaspora, how to grant autocephalies and autonomies, ecumenism etc. Some bodies have already been created to find solutions for this issues.

Some Churches (like the Church of Russia) state that without at least a general consensus on disputable issues such a council shouldn't be called so I doubt it will gather in 2013 or 2012 as it is gossiped.

No one know what would be decided but I suppose that nothing serious.
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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2011, 01:37:48 PM »

So basically this thing, if it happens, is not going to be a big thing in the big picture....correct?

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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2011, 01:40:36 PM »

I think so despite many are scared of it.
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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2011, 01:51:07 PM »

I think so despite many are scared of it.
Why?

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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2011, 02:09:08 PM »

That it wwould result in going under Vatican / abolishing fasts/ ordination of women...
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2011, 02:12:36 PM »


Nooo... nobody really thinks that will happen in this upcoming Council.

As far as I know...I think folks are worried about the state of Orthodoxy in the U.S.....and how we would shuffle everyone around...and which bishops would go where, etc.  THAT in itself is rather complicated....and would affect millions of Orthodox faithful in the U.S.

Furthermore, they might speak about the state of Orthodoxy in Ukraine.  Another major issue, concerning millions of Orthodox faithful.

I have not heard one words spoken concerning the Vatican.

THAT would never happen!!!
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2011, 02:15:09 PM »

Nooo... nobody really thinks that will happen in this upcoming Council.

I can give examples of dosens of such people including several posters from here and my aunt.
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2011, 02:32:11 PM »

Nooo... nobody really thinks that will happen in this upcoming Council.

I can give examples of dosens of such people including several posters from here and my aunt.
Something tells me that I doub very seriously the EP would come out wearing this:



Basically, I think that folks believing it would be the end of fasts, or Orthodoxy joining Rome, or something other stuff like that is a bit reactionary.

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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2011, 02:52:58 PM »

It would be nice if we could get more bodies to officially denounce sophianism as heresy, rather than just the Russian side.
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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2011, 07:00:01 PM »

It would be nice if we could get more bodies to officially denounce sophianism as heresy, rather than just the Russian side.

And icons of the Father.

I <3 the Russians.
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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2011, 07:26:31 PM »

It would be nice if we could get more bodies to officially denounce sophianism as heresy, rather than just the Russian side.

And icons of the Father.

I <3 the Russians.

I understand your point, but seriously? I don't think that issue would hit the floor at a Church council, but you never know...
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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2011, 08:50:26 PM »

Nooo... nobody really thinks that will happen in this upcoming Council.

I can give examples of dosens of such people including several posters from here and my aunt.

Lots of people are wrong.
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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2011, 08:56:19 PM »

It would be nice if we could get more bodies to officially denounce sophianism as heresy, rather than just the Russian side.

And icons of the Father.

I <3 the Russians.

I understand your point, but seriously? I don't think that issue would hit the floor at a Church council, but you never know...

Maybe in the council of the my dreams, where low cut V-neck tops for men are also anathematised.
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« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2011, 10:55:38 PM »

It would be nice if we could get more bodies to officially denounce sophianism as heresy, rather than just the Russian side.

And icons of the Father.

I <3 the Russians.

I understand your point, but seriously? I don't think that issue would hit the floor at a Church council, but you never know...

Maybe in the council of the my dreams, where low cut V-neck tops for men are also anathematised.

No kidding.  I saw a guy at liturgy who clearly thought he was something special wearing an extremely low v-neck.  It literally went down to the end of his sternum.  It was disturbing and I felt violated.   Tongue
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« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2011, 11:05:23 PM »

It would be nice if we could get more bodies to officially denounce sophianism as heresy, rather than just the Russian side.

And icons of the Father.

I <3 the Russians.

I understand your point, but seriously? I don't think that issue would hit the floor at a Church council, but you never know...

Maybe in the council of the my dreams, where low cut V-neck tops for men are also anathematised.

No kidding.  I saw a guy at liturgy who clearly thought he was something special wearing an extremely low v-neck.  It literally went down to the end of his sternum.  It was disturbing and I felt violated.   Tongue

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« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2011, 11:07:46 PM »

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