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« Reply #225 on: March 07, 2012, 04:19:17 PM »

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He already said he was married.  You should be ashamed going after a married man.

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What are you doing this weekend?  If you're not busy perhaps we could catch a Vespers or something
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« Reply #226 on: March 07, 2012, 04:30:09 PM »

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« Reply #227 on: March 07, 2012, 05:13:36 PM »

So, anyone have any good chili recipes?
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« Reply #228 on: March 07, 2012, 05:25:35 PM »

So, anyone have any good chili recipes?

Do you like soy meat?  Get some soyburger, canned chilies, raw jalapeno, one anaheim, one can of chili beans, stewed tomatoes, an onion.  Chop up the unchopped vegetables.  Cook up the mystery meat first with some chili powder (Tabasco if your spice cabinet sucks) garlic powder, the jalapeno, and a good portion of the onions.  Use some form of oil.  Put it in the pot with the other vegetables and canned stuff and bring it to heat until it bubbles.  Then turn it down to a simmer and cook for about an hour. 

Simple stuff, yo.
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« Reply #229 on: March 07, 2012, 05:53:36 PM »

So, anyone have any good chili recipes?

Do you like soy meat?  Get some soyburger, canned chilies, raw jalapeno, one anaheim, one can of chili beans, stewed tomatoes, an onion.  Chop up the unchopped vegetables.  Cook up the mystery meat first with some chili powder (Tabasco if your spice cabinet sucks) garlic powder, the jalapeno, and a good portion of the onions.  Use some form of oil.  Put it in the pot with the other vegetables and canned stuff and bring it to heat until it bubbles.  Then turn it down to a simmer and cook for about an hour.  

Simple stuff, yo.

What kind of "canned chilies"? Plus, if you simmer for 1 hour, don't the soyburger pieces turn into mush?
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« Reply #230 on: March 07, 2012, 06:03:20 PM »

So, anyone have any good chili recipes?

Do you like soy meat?  Get some soyburger, canned chilies, raw jalapeno, one anaheim, one can of chili beans, stewed tomatoes, an onion.  Chop up the unchopped vegetables.  Cook up the mystery meat first with some chili powder (Tabasco if your spice cabinet sucks) garlic powder, the jalapeno, and a good portion of the onions.  Use some form of oil.  Put it in the pot with the other vegetables and canned stuff and bring it to heat until it bubbles.  Then turn it down to a simmer and cook for about an hour.  

Simple stuff, yo.

What kind of "canned chilies"? Plus, if you simmer for 1 hour, don't the soyburger pieces turn into mush?

Canned chilies - I just grab whatever catches my eye on the bottom row in the Mexican section of the supermarket.  I'm not picky when it comes to peppers!

I hadn't thought of the soyburger mush.  I haven't tried this yet, so thanks for pointing that out.  Perhaps simmer all the veggies together first and then add the mystery meat near the end?  A bit bassackwards but it might work.
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« Reply #231 on: March 07, 2012, 06:25:49 PM »

So, anyone have any good chili recipes?

Do you like soy meat?  Get some soyburger, canned chilies, raw jalapeno, one anaheim, one can of chili beans, stewed tomatoes, an onion.  Chop up the unchopped vegetables.  Cook up the mystery meat first with some chili powder (Tabasco if your spice cabinet sucks) garlic powder, the jalapeno, and a good portion of the onions.  Use some form of oil.  Put it in the pot with the other vegetables and canned stuff and bring it to heat until it bubbles.  Then turn it down to a simmer and cook for about an hour.  

Simple stuff, yo.

What kind of "canned chilies"? Plus, if you simmer for 1 hour, don't the soyburger pieces turn into mush?

Canned chilies - I just grab whatever catches my eye on the bottom row in the Mexican section of the supermarket.  I'm not picky when it comes to peppers!

I hadn't thought of the soyburger mush.  I haven't tried this yet, so thanks for pointing that out.  Perhaps simmer all the veggies together first and then add the mystery meat near the end?  A bit bassackwards but it might work.

I think waiting until last few minutes would be great. Also, I would use chipotles canned in adobe and reserve some to be added at the same time as the soyburger. Finally, how about giving the dish more of a zing with a last minute splash of Texas Pete and a sprinkling of chopped cilantro and/or green onions?
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« Reply #232 on: March 07, 2012, 06:30:58 PM »

So, anyone have any good chili recipes?

Do you like soy meat?  Get some soyburger, canned chilies, raw jalapeno, one anaheim, one can of chili beans, stewed tomatoes, an onion.  Chop up the unchopped vegetables.  Cook up the mystery meat first with some chili powder (Tabasco if your spice cabinet sucks) garlic powder, the jalapeno, and a good portion of the onions.  Use some form of oil.  Put it in the pot with the other vegetables and canned stuff and bring it to heat until it bubbles.  Then turn it down to a simmer and cook for about an hour.  

Simple stuff, yo.

What kind of "canned chilies"? Plus, if you simmer for 1 hour, don't the soyburger pieces turn into mush?

Canned chilies - I just grab whatever catches my eye on the bottom row in the Mexican section of the supermarket.  I'm not picky when it comes to peppers!

I hadn't thought of the soyburger mush.  I haven't tried this yet, so thanks for pointing that out.  Perhaps simmer all the veggies together first and then add the mystery meat near the end?  A bit bassackwards but it might work.

Use shredded textured vegetable protein (TVP). It can be bought at Whole Foods and other SWPL-type stores.

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« Reply #233 on: March 07, 2012, 06:40:26 PM »

Here is a great vegetarian chili recipe from Emeril Lagasse: http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/emeril-lagasse/vegetarian-chili-recipe/index.html.

Other inventive uses of beans may be found in other cuisines as well.

Turkish: Pinto Beans (Pinto Fasulyesi) from http://almostturkish.blogspot.com/2007/04/pinto-beans-pinto-faslyesi.html

Bulgarian: Bean Soup from http://www.bgcooks.com/2010/06/bulgarian-been-soup-zrial-bob.html

Indian:72 recipes that use chick peas, lentils, beans, etc..from http://www.ivu.org/recipes/indian-beans/

Italian: Pasta Fazool from http://www.passionatevegetarian.com/r_pasta_fagioli.htm
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« Reply #234 on: March 07, 2012, 07:41:59 PM »

I'm going to have to give some of those Indian dishes a try.  I love Indian food.  Unfortunately, I rarely have the motivation to cook, so my lenten fare tends to be lots fried or smoked fish or like last night - black bread smeared with I can't believe it's not butter and a lime to prevent scurvy.
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« Reply #235 on: March 08, 2012, 01:26:59 AM »

He already said he was married.  You should be ashamed going after a married man.
Haven't you heard the story of the woman who danced before men for a good cause?

Stick around this forum long enough and you will.  Grin
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« Reply #236 on: March 08, 2012, 01:27:43 AM »

This website has some awesome middle-eastern recipes, many lenten:

http://www.sudairy.com/mer/recipes.html
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« Reply #237 on: March 08, 2012, 01:44:23 AM »

Honest question (not judging), but why have so many "lenten" recipes I've seen posted on here included oil and fish? 
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« Reply #238 on: March 08, 2012, 03:26:02 AM »

Honest question (not judging), but why have so many "lenten" recipes I've seen posted on here included oil and fish? 
You mean olive oil or other oil?

A lot of Orthodox use oil if it's not olive oil, like Russians drinking beer because it isn't wine.
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« Reply #239 on: March 08, 2012, 09:52:57 AM »

Honest question (not judging), but why have so many "lenten" recipes I've seen posted on here included oil and fish? 
You mean olive oil or other oil?

A lot of Orthodox use oil if it's not olive oil, like Russians drinking beer because it isn't wine.

Russians drink beer because it is bread.
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« Reply #240 on: March 08, 2012, 10:16:54 AM »

Honest question (not judging), but why have so many "lenten" recipes I've seen posted on here included oil and fish? 
You mean olive oil or other oil?

A lot of Orthodox use oil if it's not olive oil, like Russians drinking beer because it isn't wine.

For fish, at least with me, it's a choice between that and breaking the fast.  I am not and have never been a vegetarian.  I am an omnivore who leans slightly towards carnivore.  I think the vast majority of vegetables taste like feces, and a diet of nothing but potatoes and bread is a good way to stack on another twenty pounds, and to be honest, I'm going to have to loose something like fifty if I want to be healthy. 

I generally steer away from olive oil during the fast and just use vegetable oil since it really does the same thing.

And yes, I drink beer because it is not wine, and really is just liquid bread.  Likewise, vodka is not wine.
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« Reply #241 on: March 08, 2012, 10:20:31 AM »

Honest question (not judging), but why have so many "lenten" recipes I've seen posted on here included oil and fish? 
You mean olive oil or other oil?

A lot of Orthodox use oil if it's not olive oil, like Russians drinking beer because it isn't wine.

For fish, at least with me, it's a choice between that and breaking the fast.  I am not and have never been a vegetarian.  I am an omnivore who leans slightly towards carnivore.  I think the vast majority of vegetables taste like feces, and a diet of nothing but potatoes and bread is a good way to stack on another twenty pounds, and to be honest, I'm going to have to loose something like fifty if I want to be healthy. 

I generally steer away from olive oil during the fast and just use vegetable oil since it really does the same thing.

And yes, I drink beer because it is not wine, and really is just liquid bread.  Likewise, vodka is not wine.

Your problem is that you are a picky eater. While I am a carnivore of carnivores, vegetables are delicious.

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Especially when cooked in bacon grease Smiley

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« Reply #243 on: March 08, 2012, 10:59:17 AM »

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Especially when cooked in bacon grease Smiley

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Exactly.  I can eat vegetables, I just need something to cover up the flavor.
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Especially when cooked in bacon grease Smiley

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Exactly.  I can eat vegetables, I just need something to cover up the flavor.

That's the problem. You need to get over being a picky eater. I am not giving you a hard time.

For example, you mention that you need to drop 50 lbs. Picky eaters are commonly overweight. For some reason, there is never the picky eater who can only eat cruciferous vegetables. Rather, they can only eat grilled cheese sandwiches and french fries.

Also, related to the topic at hand, it has social consequences, such as the case of the man in the linked article who asked for a grilled cheese sandwich at a fancy Italian restaurant.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200701/the-grown-picky-eaters-club

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« Reply #245 on: March 08, 2012, 11:28:50 AM »

I read the article and it didn't take long for the common cure-all for anything ever.....medication. *sigh*.

Anyways, Im a picky eater as well. my palette has been brodening of late, but still there are some things that I find horrid. Such as tomatoes and pickles.

Oddly, I love everything flavor-wise about tomato based products. I love ketchup and I make a mean red sauce from scratch Wink

I just can not stand the taste of a tomato in its natural state.

As for pickles, they are demon spawn and I will starve before eating one....actually, I have Smiley

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I read the article and it didn't take long for the common cure-all for anything ever.....medication. *sigh*.

Anyways, Im a picky eater as well. my palette has been brodening of late, but still there are some things that I find horrid. Such as tomatoes and pickles.

Oddly, I love everything flavor-wise about tomato based products. I love ketchup and I make a mean red sauce from scratch Wink


The article did not advocate medication as a cure-all. It quoted one doctor as saying "some may benefit from treatment such as anti-depressants". However, the same doctor then advocated exposure therapy in considerable detail.

Ketchup does not taste like tomatoes.

I think a large part of picky eaters begins with their childhoods. In my family, we never taught our kids that there is such a thing as "kids food" and "grownup food". We all eat the same food for dinner. My kids have fought over green beans to the point of tears.

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The article did not advocate medication as a cure-all. It quoted one doctor as saying "some may benefit from treatment such as anti-depressants".
Sorry, you are correct. I was simply saying that wnenever I read anything psychological, the medications always come up. It was more exasperation than stating that was in the article. My apologies.

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Same in my fam. I dont cook different dinners and I wont allow it when my boy does not like what is for dinner. Either he eats, or goes to bed hungry.

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Sorry, you are correct. I was simply saying that wnenever I read anything psychological, the medications always come up. It was more exasperation than stating that was in the article. My apologies.

No apologies are necessary. The reason that medication often comes up is because the mind is an effect of the brain. Therefore, if one wishes to alter the functions of the mind, altering the brain can be an effective way to go about it.

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Thank God, or my hot dogs would taste rather bland.

Ketchup prevents you from tasting your hot dog at all. The sweetness of its sugar combined with the sour vinegar chemically shorts your taste buds. This is why ketchup is oft used by parents to get their kids to eat anything. I recommend mustard and other topping for hot dogs.

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Same in my fam. I dont cook different dinners and I wont allow it when my boy does not like what is for dinner. Either he eats, or goes to bed hungry.

Well, there is always ketchup, right?

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No apologies are necessary. The reason that medication often comes up is because the mind is an effect of the brain. Therefore, if one wishes to alter the functions of the mind, altering the brain can be an effective way to go about it
I just get sick of hearing drugs drugs drugs all the time.

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Bleh...dont like mustard. Now hot sauce.....

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ketchup and cauliflower go together like dinosaurs and chap-stik.

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« Reply #250 on: March 08, 2012, 12:30:28 PM »

I just get sick of hearing drugs drugs drugs all the time.

I am sorry you are sick of hearing about it, but to the extent the human body is a biochemical organism, chemicals can effect its function. That includes the function of the brain. I would certainly agree that, if possible, it is preferable to treat conditions like Type II diabetes with diet and exercise rather than drugs. That is not because drugs are bad, but because that would be of general benefit to the patient as a whole. However, something like paranoid schizophrenia cannot be treated by simply talking about one's feelings.

To use an example closer to home, my five-year-old niece has severe epilepsy (among other problems) and just came out of surgery within the last hour after having a pacemaker-type device placed in her chest and electrodes implanted and connected to her vagus (a nerve in the brainstem) in hopes of reducing her seizures. So yes, sometimes medicine is the answer.

Sorry to get off-topic.

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« Reply #251 on: March 08, 2012, 01:57:53 PM »

For fish, at least with me, it's a choice between that and breaking the fast.  I am not and have never been a vegetarian.  I am an omnivore who leans slightly towards carnivore.  I think the vast majority of vegetables taste like feces, and a diet of nothing but potatoes and bread is a good way to stack on another twenty pounds, and to be honest, I'm going to have to loose something like fifty if I want to be healthy. 

I generally steer away from olive oil during the fast and just use vegetable oil since it really does the same thing.

And yes, I drink beer because it is not wine, and really is just liquid bread.  Likewise, vodka is not wine.

Well, thank you for your honesty.  Smiley
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« Reply #252 on: March 08, 2012, 02:11:19 PM »

Honest question (not judging), but why have so many "lenten" recipes I've seen posted on here included oil and fish? 
You mean olive oil or other oil?

A lot of Orthodox use oil if it's not olive oil, like Russians drinking beer because it isn't wine.

Well, as long as we can beat the system through reverse-pharisaic application, I'm down!


Russians drink beer because it is bread.

Right...

I find these distinctions and definitions ridiculous, but at the same time I should admit that I regularly don't properly fast, in that my portion control is horrible. For anyone who has tried to explain Orthodox "fasting" to a Muslim though, it becomes embarrassingly unimpressive and superficial if we include all of the loopholes.
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« Reply #253 on: March 08, 2012, 03:14:16 PM »

Honest question (not judging), but why have so many "lenten" recipes I've seen posted on here included oil and fish? 
You mean olive oil or other oil?

A lot of Orthodox use oil if it's not olive oil, like Russians drinking beer because it isn't wine.

Well, as long as we can beat the system through reverse-pharisaic application, I'm down!


Russians drink beer because it is bread.

Right...

I find these distinctions and definitions ridiculous, but at the same time I should admit that I regularly don't properly fast, in that my portion control is horrible. For anyone who has tried to explain Orthodox "fasting" to a Muslim though, it becomes embarrassingly unimpressive and superficial if we include all of the loopholes.

I don't know.  I think I probably could do the moslem fast, especially Nativity since sundown comes so early.  Don't eat all day and gorge when the sun goes down.  And eat whatever you want on top of it.  During the fast I usually just eat two meals anyway. 

Personally, I consider most of it to be Phaisaic.  Fasting should be done in secret with a good countenance, not announcing every time you go out to eat with someone that you can't eat X because the fast doesn't allow for it.  Last week my roommate made some lasagna for dinner and said "hey, I even made it without meat so you can have some too!"  What do you say at that point?  When an atheist goes out of his way to account for part of a religion he doesn't even believe, I think that gives more glory to God than it would to smear your face with ash (figuratively speaking) and not eat.  I told him afterwards that cheese isn't allowed either but said that I wasn't fasting that week, then kept it thereafter. 
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« Reply #254 on: March 08, 2012, 03:38:03 PM »

I don't know.  I think I probably could do the moslem fast, especially Nativity since sundown comes so early.  Don't eat all day and gorge when the sun goes down.  And eat whatever you want on top of it.  During the fast I usually just eat two meals anyway.

The slack Muslims definitely give us a run for the money on hypocritical fasting.  Others? Not so much.  Many regard it as a transfiguring experience that brings them closer to God. 

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It definitely has the potential to be (and frequently is).  There's clearly a reason why the Church deems it important though.  Much like going through the motions in prayer, if we simply abstain from some types of foods, it's not particularly helpful.  But fasting is an accepted and important part of Church praxis.  She believes that something is to be gained from sacrifice, experiencing hunger and thirst, while further modifying our behaviors.  Rules and guidelines are not, in themselves, Pharisaic.

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Fasting should be done in secret with a good countenance, not announcing every time you go out to eat with someone that you can't eat X because the fast doesn't allow for it.  Last week my roommate made some lasagna for dinner and said "hey, I even made it without meat so you can have some too!"  What do you say at that point?  When an atheist goes out of his way to account for part of a religion he doesn't even believe, I think that gives more glory to God than it would to smear your face with ash (figuratively speaking) and not eat.  I told him afterwards that cheese isn't allowed either but said that I wasn't fasting that week, then kept it thereafter.

Right, but fasting should nevertheless be done. As to your example: absolutely.  I do and would've done the same thing. 
I'm pretty bad at this whole thing, as I fluctuate between being overly stringent and overly lax, rarely finding the optimal place.  Then again, if people are comfortable and not struggling during Lent, I wonder what they're doing.

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« Reply #255 on: March 08, 2012, 03:55:13 PM »

For anyone who has tried to explain Orthodox "fasting" to a Muslim though, it becomes embarrassingly unimpressive and superficial if we include all of the loopholes.
Muslims had/have their own loopholes. Hindus have boatloads.
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« Reply #256 on: March 08, 2012, 04:17:27 PM »

For anyone who has tried to explain Orthodox "fasting" to a Muslim though, it becomes embarrassingly unimpressive and superficial if we include all of the loopholes.
Muslims had/have their own loopholes. Hindus have boatloads.

That may be, but I was pretty surprised when I learned that Orthodox "fasting" is "hey, we can have fish today". My idea of fasting is water fasting, which I do as a matter of health practice a few days a week. What Orthodox call "fasting" is what I call "abstinence".
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« Reply #257 on: March 08, 2012, 04:45:15 PM »

Not to respond to any one point:

In Athens the high is 18 C and the low is 11 C.  In central Ukraine it is -4 C / -11 C.   It is a no brainer that fasting in a Mediterranean climate is going to be different than in the northern lands inhabited by millions of Orthodox.  I spend a lot of my day outside and do a lot of walking - simply existing burns a ton of calories.  Not a whole lot of people fast for lent, but it also isn't completely out of the ordinary.  For instance a number of restaurants will put fasting items on their menu during Lent.  IME Lent is the only fast lay people regularly keep.  Advent is less frequently encountered.  The weekly Wednesday / Friday fasts are basically never heard of.  Fish is pretty commonly considered lenten here; some of the supermarkets even run sales on fish advertising them as lenten. 

As for hatred of vegetables, I'm in shock.  First off get decent veggies.  I love steaming things.  They taste better and don't loose as many vitamins.  Also do forget to salt things.  If you eat a lot of processed foods everything is salted in the extreme, so if that is what you palette is used to put some salt on (and put good salt like sea salt or kosher salt).  You can make completely vegan lentil soups thats are great.  Google lentil soup recipes and a million will come up.  I love beets.  Boil them, shred them and either put a bit of oil or sour cream over them. 

I agree with what others have said - much of the Orthodox fasting is complete nonsense and pious showboating. 
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« Reply #258 on: March 08, 2012, 04:53:25 PM »

As for hatred of vegetables, I'm in shock.  First off get decent veggies.  I love steaming things.  They taste better and don't loose as many vitamins.  Also do forget to salt things.  If you eat a lot of processed foods everything is salted in the extreme, so if that is what you palette is used to put some salt on (and put good salt like sea salt or kosher salt).  You can make completely vegan lentil soups thats are great.  Google lentil soup recipes and a million will come up.  I love beets.  Boil them, shred them and either put a bit of oil or sour cream over them. 

I agree with what others have said - much of the Orthodox fasting is complete nonsense and pious showboating. 

I agree with all of this. If you like, please go earlier in this thread to see a very good recipe for a vegan lentil soup.

I also agree on salt. I use kosher salt as my every day salt. Iodized salt has a bit of an off taste to me.

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« Reply #259 on: March 08, 2012, 05:05:07 PM »

That may be, but I was pretty surprised when I learned that Orthodox "fasting" is "hey, we can have fish today". My idea of fasting is water fasting, which I do as a matter of health practice a few days a week. What Orthodox call "fasting" is what I call "abstinence".

The simple fact is that the vast majority of Orthodox, including nearly all of those who stress the importance of fasting, just don't fast - other than in the morning prior to Holy Communion. When the canons or the Fathers speak of fasting, it means no food or drink for a certain time (typically until the 9th Hour - 3pm). Abstaining from animal products, wine and oil is a supplement.

Of course, there are many times of the year when abstinence is prescribed, but fasting is not. On every Saturday and Sunday of Lent, for example, abstinence from animal products is prescribed, while fasting is prohibited by the canons.

Generally speaking, on days when oil or wine and not permitted, a total fast should be kept until the 9th Hour, after which a single vegan meal may be eaten. On days when oil and wine are permitted, animal products are a no no, but you can eat at any time of the day.


So yes, what most Orthodox call fasting is mere abstinence from animal products. Traditionally, however, the Orthodox Church prescribes a rather severe form of fasting that would make Ramadan seem rather trivial by comparison.
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« Reply #260 on: March 08, 2012, 05:16:03 PM »

So yes, what most Orthodox call fasting is mere abstinence from animal products. Traditionally, however, the Orthodox Church prescribes a rather severe form of fasting that would make Ramadan seem rather trivial by comparison.

Ramadan fasting is no food, drink, smoking, or sex during daylight. One has to be pretty far from the equator at the right time of year for sunset to be before the ninth hour. (although I concede that there is feasting in the evening) What is the traditional Orthodox fasting practice that makes Ramadan look trivial?

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« Reply #261 on: March 08, 2012, 05:16:47 PM »

so far i have "cooked" guacamole and pineapple cornbread for lent... Smiley
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« Reply #262 on: March 08, 2012, 06:04:35 PM »

So yes, what most Orthodox call fasting is mere abstinence from animal products. Traditionally, however, the Orthodox Church prescribes a rather severe form of fasting that would make Ramadan seem rather trivial by comparison.

Ramadan fasting is no food, drink, smoking, or sex during daylight. One has to be pretty far from the equator at the right time of year for sunset to be before the ninth hour. (although I concede that there is feasting in the evening) What is the traditional Orthodox fasting practice that makes Ramadan look trivial?



I could and have gone without food all day before, just make sure there's a cheeseburger waiting for me at the end.  The no drinking would be the real hard part.  Dehydration sucks.
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Ramadan fasting is no food, drink, smoking, or sex during daylight. One has to be pretty far from the equator at the right time of year for sunset to be before the ninth hour. (although I concede that there is feasting in the evening) What is the traditional Orthodox fasting practice that makes Ramadan look trivial?

Sex every night after sundown vs. no sex for 6 weeks (how many working couples have time to have sex during the day anyways?)

Meat, dairy, eggs, oil every night after sundown vs. no meat, dairy, eggs, oil (i.e. only raw, boiled or steamed foods) for 6 weeks.

Eating in the morning before dawn vs. no food since the previous evening.


Then you have days where you don't eat at all. During the first week of Lent, for example, a total fast is kept from Monday until the Liturgy of the Presanctified on Wednesday evening. Almost three days with no food or drink.
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« Reply #264 on: March 08, 2012, 06:12:32 PM »

Out of curiousity, how many of you here have specialized fasting rules? My Priest really personalized mine for a couple reasons. The first and more important one is that I am prone to chronic migraines that can last two days and one of my triggers is not eating, and the second is that I'm a minor living in an un-Orthodox household. My fasting rules are basically to not eat anything between meals and when eating a meal, to only eat the bare minimum I need to get full, but no seconds.
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« Reply #265 on: March 08, 2012, 06:22:34 PM »

Out of curiousity, how many of you here have specialized fasting rules?

Given the severity of the Orthodox fasting rules when applied strictly, I would guess that probably almost every poster here has specialized fasting rules, even if they have not been given a specific set of guidelines by their priest.

I remember an Ethiopian woman looking at me with horror and saying "I thought you said you were Orthodox?" when she saw me drink a glass of water before 3pm on a Friday (it was 30C outside). I hate to think what would have happened if she'd seen me eating something. Exceptions like her aside, though, I don't think you'd find many people who didn't in some way bend the rules to account for health, climate, physical work, or simply just lack of willpower.
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« Reply #266 on: July 16, 2012, 01:16:44 PM »

Here's what I had for lunch today.  Mmm, tasty...
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« Reply #267 on: September 03, 2012, 09:12:04 PM »

Earlier I had a tray of fast food french fries. Unfortunately they weren't from a fast food joint, they're just called that. I'm still hungry though so I'm having a bowl of tootie frooties, with some diet sunkist. Oh yeah! Smiley
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« Reply #268 on: September 03, 2012, 09:15:33 PM »

Here's what I had for lunch today.  Mmm, tasty...
Ok so I assume a woman who can cook is at the top of your list when doing online dating searches right?
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« Reply #269 on: September 03, 2012, 09:18:06 PM »

Out of curiousity, how many of you here have specialized fasting rules? My Priest really personalized mine for a couple reasons. The first and more important one is that I am prone to chronic migraines that can last two days and one of my triggers is not eating, and the second is that I'm a minor living in an un-Orthodox household. My fasting rules are basically to not eat anything between meals and when eating a meal, to only eat the bare minimum I need to get full, but no seconds.

I try not to go longer than 12 hours without food. And I don't drink my carbs if I can help it. And I don't scarf down too many pizzas. Usually. All that has more to do with my diabetes though.
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