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« on: July 03, 2012, 02:57:15 AM »
What in the world is this?

"Some Similarities and Differences Between the Eastern Orthodox Church and the Living Church of God":

Good lord that's alot of information.

Orthodox Answers had the following in a Q&A (note, this is the complete response there):


    11/22/2008: If Irenaeus and other early Fathers believed in the Millennium on earth and taught this doctrine, why is this not taught by the Orthodox Church (since its position is amillenialism).


    It is true that St. Irenaeus and other early Christian Father believed and taught that the 1000 years of Revelation 20 would be fulfilled in an early kingdom. ( viewed 06/13/09)

Yet, this teaching changed amongst many Orthodox.

    CHILIASM: Chiliasm, from the Greek word meaning "1000," is a belief based on Revelation 20:2-7. In its classical form (which interprets the Revelation 20 verses verbatim), Chiliasm teaches that Satan will be bound by Christ for 1000 years, at which time Jesus and the Saints will reign on earth, and after which, Satan will be finally defeated and the Eternal Kingdom of God will be inaugurated. In modern times, Chiliasm has been "boiled down" to the teaching that the world will end after one thousand years (or a number of years that is a multiple of one thousand). Though some Ancient Church Fathers of the first three centuries AD had Chiliast leanings, the Orthodox Church formally denounced Chiliasm at the Second Ecumenical Council, in 381 (Orthodox Christian Beliefs and Practices. © 2006-2007 Ukrainian Orthodox Church of Canada. 08/18/07).

In other words, Orthodox Church scholars know that early Christian leaders, which it calls, "Ancient Church Fathers" taught chiliasm (called millenarianism in Latin), yet it CHANGED that teaching AND CONDEMNED it in a church council.
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Now that caught my attention.

"Almost none who profess Christianity hold to all of those beliefs. The largest group (which happens to also be a "little flock") that agrees with all the positions above, that were part of "the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints" (Jude 3) is the Living Church of God."

Here's an article on the Church of Ephesus:

Really well sourced stuff.

But this is pretty much blasphemy:
Both the Bible and early church writings confirm that Jesus is God, but that He emptied Himself of many of the prerogatives of His divinity while on the earth. Jesus became man. So, while on earth, Jesus (who was tempted as we are) was human and not fully divine.

However, before being on earth and after the resurrection, Jesus was God.

Jesus is now God and is once again with God.

There's no way one man wrote all of this, must be some kind of exercise in madness. Saw this on a late night Orthodox google search. I'd like to read more of it but it's giving me a headache from all the text.
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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2012, 04:13:45 AM »
The Living Church of God is:

1.) A heretical group of "Binitarians" and Judaizers

2.) A destructive cult. See here:

Good scholarship does not equal sound doctrine.

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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2012, 11:59:19 PM »
The Armstrongists put a ton of emphasis on their "God is a Family!" doctrine, and how we can become part of that family (i.e. salvation). Since Theosis sounds similar to this, they try to act as if we've preserved a portion of the truth and that we verify their claims of restoring the lost truth of the Gospel. Mormons do this as well with their Exaltation doctrine, and equate it to Theosis (particularly liking the word "deification").

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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2012, 01:31:21 PM »
The Living Church of God is:

1.) A heretical group of "Binitarians" and Judaizers

2.) A destructive cult. See here:

Good scholarship does not equal sound doctrine.
I have a friend who was involved with them (or rather, with their progenitors, the WCOG), who can tell you all sorts of terrifying stories that involved plenty of beliefs that the group changed over time and the authoritarianism that went along with the enforcement of those changed beliefs.
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