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« on: October 10, 2011, 05:44:22 PM » |
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The person of God that most people call Jesus, in Hebrew was called Yeshua.
Since the Greeks didn't have all the sounds (such as the SH) for his name in their alphabet, it was transliterated to "iesus".
Since we speak English and in English we can pronounce his full name as it was here on Earth, wouldn't it truly be better to address the person whom we call God by his name as even spoken by the disciples and Mary?
Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2011, 05:45:29 PM » |
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It's actually Ge'ezus.
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2011, 05:47:41 PM » |
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Why does it matter?
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2011, 05:52:38 PM » |
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I go to the Greek Orthodox Church, not the Hebrew Orthodox Church, so no.
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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2011, 06:06:38 PM » |
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Why does it matter?
I honestly don't want to explain this in so much detail because I'm afraid things will digress. Does your name matter? Does your Family name matter? Also you pray in his name (not exact name?) right? |
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2011, 06:11:24 PM » |
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I go to the Greek Orthodox Church, not the Hebrew Orthodox Church, so no.
You speak English though. His name is Yeshua. |
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2011, 06:12:45 PM » |
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My names is Tomás. People call me Thomas.
I'm cool with it.
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2011, 06:15:05 PM » |
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My names is Tomás. People call me Thomas.
I'm cool with it.
You are a very unique individual, but this is God. His name is Yeshua, far different in pronunciation than Jesus. Yeshuaisiam has been in violation of the following Forum rule: *Thread Commandeering -- Any poster may face discipline on the site if, in the consensus of the Adminstrative or moderatorial team, any individual poster habitually takes control of numerous threads by posting non-germane material in existing discussions, providing irrelevant observations or points, or continually bringing up the same point in numerous threads." Consequently, Yeshuiaisiam is placed on moderation for 99 days. If Yeshuaisiam violates the rule that I just cited once again, he may be muted or banned.
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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2011, 06:16:58 PM » |
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Because Bible was written in Greek and Judaization is heresy.
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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2011, 06:18:01 PM » |
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You are a very unique individual, but this is God. His name is Yeshua, far different in pronunciation than Jesus.
If it was important God would have sent a prophet to tell the Greeks how to do it properly. |
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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2011, 06:20:05 PM » |
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Since we speak English and in English we can pronounce his full name as it was here on Earth, wouldn't it truly be better to address the person whom we call God by his name as even spoken by the disciples and Mary?
Mary? Surely you mean Maryam? And do you call Jesus "God"? That isn't the Hebrew word, it is? |
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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2011, 06:21:33 PM » |
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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2011, 06:22:26 PM » |
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I'm either experience deja vu or we've already talked about this. We don't say YWH either or pray, "Gods" since Elohim is plural. It really hasn't been an issue for anyone until a thread appeared on OCN.
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O Master Lord our God...who are wondrous in glory; who keeps his covenant and his mercy to them who love him with all their heart; who has given us redemption...through his only-begotten son, Jesus Christ...the life of everyone, the help of those who flee to him, the hope of those who cry to him.
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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2011, 07:16:54 PM » |
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The person of God that most people call Jesus, in Hebrew was called Yeshua.
Since the Greeks didn't have all the sounds (such as the SH) for his name in their alphabet, it was transliterated to "iesus".
Since we speak English and in English we can pronounce his full name Oh? How is your 'ayn? Oh, I forget: since the English don't have all the sounds for His (btw, your capitalization key broken?) in their alphabet, it is transliterated "'", or in the Aramaic alphabet (which Hebrew uses) ע. Not that it matters, as very few English speakers can pronounce His full name. as it was here on Earth, wouldn't it truly be better to address the person whom we call God by Hhis name as even spoken by the disciples and Mary? No. Which pseudo-scholar told you otherwise? Thanks.
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« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2011, 07:16:55 PM » |
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I go to the Greek Orthodox Church, not the Hebrew Orthodox Church, so no.
You speak English though. His name is Yeshua. Not in English it's not. It's "Jesus." |
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Question a friend, perhaps he did not do it; but if he did anything so that he may do it no more.
A hasty quarrel kindles fire,
and urgent strife sheds blood.
If you blow on a spark, it will glow;
if you spit on it, it will be put out;
and both come out of your mouth
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« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2011, 08:01:11 PM » |
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Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! The person of God that most people call Jesus, in Hebrew was called Yeshua.
Since the Greeks didn't have all the sounds (such as the SH) for his name in their alphabet, it was transliterated to "iesus".
Since we speak English and in English we can pronounce his full name as it was here on Earth, wouldn't it truly be better to address the person whom we call God by his name as even spoken by the disciples and Mary?
Thanks.
That is an oversimplification of the facts of history and etymology. Let me ask you this, since you speak English why don't you call Jesus Joshua as would be the most literal example of your deductions? The Church has preserved "Ieyesus Kiristos" as the proper, international and universal form of His name, and we are not ones to argue. I used to fall into this ideology of "Yeshua" but that was when I was running with a lot of Black Hebrew Israelites and honestly, those folks are just doing it to spite people. We're not Jews, we don't speak Hebrew, and our Bibles are all based upon Greek translations, even in the Old Testament Septuagint, and so we use Ieyesus Kiristos. If in your heart you feel the need to call Him Yeshua that is fine, but why be so dogmatic against us, as if over a billion Christians could somehow all be just merely duped? As if the Holy Spirit hadn't been strong enough to speak across thousands of years to keep His name with us? The answer to your question is that there is no better or more valid way to address God in any language, that kind of philosophy is for superstitious folks or Kabbalist Masons I'm either experience deja vu or we've already talked about this. We don't say YWH either or pray, "Gods" since Elohim is plural. It really hasn't been an issue for anyone until a thread appeared on OCN.
thats not entirely fair for two reasons (a) no body is supposed to say YVWH and (b) in the Church we precisely emphasize the plurality of the Elohim and Theos in the Greek because this is the instance of the Holy Trinity saturating the language of the Old Testament. stay blessed, habte selassie |
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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2011, 08:24:56 PM » |
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Since we speak English and in English we can pronounce his full name as it was here on Earth, wouldn't it truly be better to address the person whom we call God by his name as even spoken by the disciples and Mary?
Wouldn't it also be better to dress in the clothing worn by the disciples and Mary? Or better yet, perhaps we could speak Canaanite proto-Hebrew to get back to that original divine pronunciation. Since we speak English and in English we can pronounce his full name Oh? How is your 'ayn? I was waiting for something like this to be pointed out. |
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« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2011, 08:35:01 PM » |
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Oh? How is your 'ayn?
He didn't write Yeshua', so he's clearly a heretic himself. He'll probably refer you to one of those silly Hebrew pronunciation guides that tells you "'ayn' is pronounced 'a' like in 'cat'." |
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« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2011, 08:39:47 PM » |
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