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Offline William

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English Liturgy in Venice
« on: October 07, 2011, 07:38:51 PM »
Does anyone know of English language Sunday Divine Liturgies celebrated anywhere in Venice, Italy?

If not, would it still be encouraged/required for me to attend an Italian or Greek Liturgy? Would attending a liturgy in a foreign language grant any spiritual benefit?
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Re: English Liturgy in Venice
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2011, 02:36:12 AM »
The liturgy is the liturgy, dude.  You should go to whichever Divine Liturgy is available to you, and if you've been Orthodox for long enough you may be able to have a general idea of what they're saying or doing.  I suppose it helps when you're in the Greek Archdiocese, then you've heard the Greek for long enough.. to have a general idea of what they're talking about or singing, or doing. 
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Re: English Liturgy in Venice
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2011, 02:40:00 AM »
http://www.ortodossia.it/catt-gioe.html -

The Greek Orthodox Cathedral of Saint George in Venice, known as San Giorgio dei Greci, is the oldest and historically the most important church of the Orthodox Diaspora. It has been for centuries one of the most splendid Orthodox temples in the world...

Have no idea where it might be, but darn, I wish I had seen it when I was in Venice, recently. <grrrrr>

Sorry, this doesn't answer your question regarding English Liturgy.  :laugh:
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Re: English Liturgy in Venice
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2011, 09:45:30 AM »
Why should it be in English?

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Re: English Liturgy in Venice
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2011, 10:20:44 AM »
more info on that cathedral (thanks to google):
http://www.filcoo.com/en/italy/tg/chiesa_di_san_giorgio_dei_greci_venezia_guide.htm
maybe william doesn't speak italian so is looking for something in english.
i suggest going there and even if u don't understand much, stay behind after and ask people (ideally in italian, to be polite) if they speak english and then get chatting. it may be of great spiritual benefit.

i was once in czech republic for 3 days, and i knew only 2 or 3 phrases of czech, but i attended a liturgy in what i think was a mixture of czech and old church slavonic. by the end, i had learnt to say 'Lord have mercy' in russian! i understood v little, but my spirit was lifted up a lot.
after i hung around looking for people to talk to, and heard 2 women talking in a language i spoke, so one of them kindly translated for me when i wanted to exchange a few words with the priest.
eventually the priest remembered some english (it seemed he had learnt it a long time ago) and i found out he had read books by our coptic patriarch, shenouda 3rd! he really liked his books, and it was lovely to hear that in the heart of europe. we had a short, but lovely chat, and i left feeling spiritually full.
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i also went to a catholic service while i was there, but on that occasion did not find anyone to talk to because of the language barrier. still, it was nice. so have a nice trip, and let us know how it goes
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Re: English Liturgy in Venice
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2011, 02:38:14 PM »
Why should it be in English?
Part of the Greek Archdiocese of Italy's website was in English, so I thought that maybe there'd be English services somewhere.
maybe william doesn't speak italian so is looking for something in english.
Non parlo italiano. :(
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Re: English Liturgy in Venice
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2011, 04:57:44 AM »
Why should it be in English?
Part of the Greek Archdiocese of Italy's website was in English, so I thought that maybe there'd be English services somewhere.
maybe william doesn't speak italian so is looking for something in english.
Non parlo italiano. :(

here is a link to the Liturgy in Italian
http://digilander.libero.it/ortodossia/Litourgia.htm

If you use google chrome as your browser you can translate the page into English. You could print the page out the translate the page into English and mark the translation in needed spots on your hard copy to help you keep up. (or you can use your favorite online translator)

You could contact the parish you wish to attend in Venice and find out if they have service books in Italian and English, the Greek parish I used to attend had service books that had Greek on one page and English on the next to help keep up - but I don't know how likely that would be in Italy...
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Re: English Liturgy in Venice
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2012, 08:17:12 PM »
Okay, I'll be taking some Italian lessons, I'm almost proficient in Spanish which is pretty close linguistically and I'm pretty familiar with the DL by now so I'll probably be all right.
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Re: English Liturgy in Venice
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2012, 02:36:39 PM »
so when are u going to venice? it seems like u have made very careful preparation.
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Re: English Liturgy in Venice
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2012, 09:15:58 PM »
so when are u going to venice? it seems like u have made very careful preparation.
 :)

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School trip with my mom.
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Re: English Liturgy in Venice
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2012, 07:54:22 AM »
i suppose that means 'june'?
keep up the italian studies. i have been to italy a few times but found i didn't actually need italian as there were plenty of romanians to ask for directions and plenty of arabs in the fast food shops. next time i go, i will go to church (was visiting non church attending friends last time) and go back to this thread to improve my italian!