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« Reply #45 on: October 10, 2011, 06:02:10 PM » |
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I'm not saying this town was wrong... and I abhor what Westboro stands for. But, what if this was the NAACP in the 60's instead of Westboro? Would we condone what the police dept. did?
It's odd that you make that particular comparison, since Phelps used to work as a civil rights attorney and received an award from the Kansas chapter of the NAACP. I've always wondered just how he made the leap from being one of the good guys to being so justly disdained. Anyhow, the funeral will be a private affair in an undisclosed location: http://articles.cnn.com/2011-10-07/tech/tech_innovation_steve-jobs-funeral_1_apple-employees-apple-retail-stores-apple-co-founder-steve-jobs?_s=PM:TECHSo unless the Westboro folks have some inside information, it looks like they won't be picketing this one. They did a fine job of attention-whoring as always. |
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« Reply #46 on: October 10, 2011, 06:06:35 PM » |
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I just watched Fall From Grace last week (a documentary about the church) and his daughter claims that it's a psychological obsession with anger that fuels him. "Fags" just happen to be persona non grata. They're just a target for him.
Of course it is much, much more complex than that.
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She's touring the facility/and picking up slack.
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« Reply #47 on: October 10, 2011, 06:25:30 PM » |
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There are noncanonical groups calling themselves Orthodox who have more clergy than laity and speak with more sense than this group.
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Not to be flippantly dismissive, but something of such a personal nature as this is best addressed by your priest, not by anonymous yahoos on an Internet discussion forum.
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« Reply #48 on: October 10, 2011, 11:43:46 PM » |
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I just watched Fall From Grace last week (a documentary about the church) and his daughter claims that it's a psychological obsession with anger that fuels him. "Fags" just happen to be persona non grata. They're just a target for him.
Of course it is much, much more complex than that.
ive seen that. very interesting, yet sad. for some reason, these people have fascinated me for a while now. |
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« Reply #49 on: October 11, 2011, 02:10:08 AM » |
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for some reason, these people have fascinated me for a while now. That's understandable. They fascinate the way a lurid tabloid story, or a gruesome car wreck does. |
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« Reply #50 on: October 11, 2011, 09:19:11 AM » |
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Sometimes I think they are a creation of intrests hostile to Christianity to perpetuate negative propaganda. You might be right! That is about the only thing that makes sense regarding these people. This might be unrelated. But why do Atheist have funerals anyway? The Jewish and traditional Christian treatment of death and mourning is brought up in secular grief courses (well, at least the ones I took at University) not for their religious content and message, but for their efficacy in helping the family and friends grieve and mourn in a way that allows for closure and minimal psychological effects (i.e. depression, etc.). Funerals are part of said treatment - while there is a lot of pain in the moment, the funeral (and more so an open casket funeral) is a key component to accepting a person's death, and is a great opportunity for the community to support those who suffer most (spouses, children, close family, etc.). |
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« Reply #51 on: October 11, 2011, 09:45:51 AM » |
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Oh dear Lord. Why don't these silly fruit loops take a day off once in a while?  Because they need a daily dose of attention?  |
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« Reply #52 on: October 11, 2011, 09:47:07 AM » |
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This church is an example of what happens when sola scriptura is taken TOO far!!!
From what I've read of and by them, it's not "sola scriptura" but more like "Sola Phelps" |
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"I wish they would remember that the charge to Peter was "Feed my sheep", not "Try experiments on my rats", or even "Teach my performing dogs new tricks". - C. S. Lewis
The Katana of Reasoned Discussion
For some a world view is more like a neighborhood watch.
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« Reply #53 on: October 11, 2011, 10:20:22 AM » |
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This church is an example of what happens when sola scriptura is taken TOO far!!!
From what I've read of and by them, it's not "sola scriptura" but more like "Sola Phelps" Thats a much more accurate analysis. |
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Even if we have thousands of acts of great virtue to our credit, our confidence in being heard must be based on God's mercy and His love for men. Even if we stand at the very summit of virtue, it is by mercy that we shall be saved. — Chrysostom BLOG |
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« Reply #54 on: October 17, 2011, 09:47:57 AM » |
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I just watched Fall From Grace last week (a documentary about the church) and his daughter claims that it's a psychological obsession with anger that fuels him. "Fags" just happen to be persona non grata. They're just a target for him.
Of course it is much, much more complex than that.
Did you watch this on TV or is it something you can rent from your local Video/DVD store? |
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« Reply #55 on: October 17, 2011, 09:49:18 AM » |
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I just watched Fall From Grace last week (a documentary about the church) and his daughter claims that it's a psychological obsession with anger that fuels him. "Fags" just happen to be persona non grata. They're just a target for him.
Of course it is much, much more complex than that.
Did you watch this on TV or is it something you can rent from your local Video/DVD store? Netflix streaming! Ah, Netflix. Simultaneously the greatest love of my love and the bane of my existence. But yes, it's there. Mr. Ismi and I used to scope the local Blockbuster documentary sections, and we never saw it there, but you can give it a shot. |
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She's touring the facility/and picking up slack.
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« Reply #56 on: October 18, 2011, 01:12:27 AM » |
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Why don't they ever picket someone's birth, instead? |
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If you will, you can become all flame.
Extra caritatem nulla salus.
In order to become whole, take the "I" out of "holiness".
I'm not a witch.
Ἄνω σχῶμεν τὰς καρδίας
"Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." -- Mohandas Gandhi
Y dduw bo'r diolch.
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« Reply #57 on: October 18, 2011, 03:55:25 AM » |
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Oh, the irony of it all!  Tweeted from an iPhone, something created by a company Steve Jobs founded. |
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« Reply #58 on: October 18, 2011, 09:13:42 AM » |
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Sometimes I think they are a creation of intrests hostile to Christianity to perpetuate negative propaganda. You might be right! That is about the only thing that makes sense regarding these people. This might be unrelated. But why do Atheist have funerals anyway? The Jewish and traditional Christian treatment of death and mourning is brought up in secular grief courses (well, at least the ones I took at University) not for their religious content and message, but for their efficacy in helping the family and friends grieve and mourn in a way that allows for closure and minimal psychological effects (i.e. depression, etc.). Funerals are part of said treatment - while there is a lot of pain in the moment, the funeral (and more so an open casket funeral) is a key component to accepting a person's death, and is a great opportunity for the community to support those who suffer most (spouses, children, close family, etc.). Thank you Father. I guess the focus is more on those who remain alive and to document history at it's closing. |
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