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« on: August 04, 2004, 11:23:08 AM »

Now that we have a technical board (hooray!), I thought it might be interesting to discuss a comment that Umberto Eco famously made about computers, using a religious analogy.  Eco said that the Macintosh was the Catholic computer, while the PC was the Protestant Computer.  Essentially, Eco meant that the PC represented the hardworking, pragmatic ethos of Protestant countries, while the Macintosh represented the greater emphasis on aesthetics, the marriage of form and function, that at least Eco saw as present in Catholic societies.

Obviously in Eco's mind we didn't even rate.  But I wonder ... what do you think is the Orthodox Computer, and why?  Not in the sense of this is the computer that Orthodox should use (LOL!), but rather in the analogical sense that Eco uses.

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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2004, 12:12:30 PM »

being seen as old and traditional and by many as the foundations of all churches wouldn't we be the Abacus? after all it was the first computer. or atleast something old. like a Commodore 64. anyone remember those in the 80s? hehehe ahhh to be 10 again Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2004, 01:19:50 PM »

What about the VAX???

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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2004, 02:02:39 PM »

In Eco's arrogant mind we are probably a Mac clone.  Phe.

Commodore64?  Trash80?  No.  

The VAX is dead.

Try Unix, BSD or Linux.  Traditional, reliable, dynamic, open-source operating systems whose goal is to benefit the user of the OS.  They look at the goals of mac and windows and say, "huh?Huh?"

There are a lot of good distributions.  Kind of like Orthodoxy.  There is RedHat, Mandrake, Suse, Debian, and many others.  Yet all essentially use the same kernel.  Different flavors, same basic substance.  See, like Russian, Serbian, Antiochian, American, Carpatho-Russian, Serbian, Czechoslovak, Romanian, Bulgarian and, ummm, yeah, Serbian.

Not that I'm suggesting that you all go out and download the latest version of Linux or, say, easy-to-use Suse Linux.  I personally run RedHat 9, Mandrake 10 and Suse.  

But far be it from me that I suggest that any of you go to Suse's website and download a copy of the OS that runs completely on a CD so you can try it out first.     Grin
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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2004, 02:16:39 PM »

Debian all the way.

RPM is the worst package management system known to man.
Gentoo is wussy.
Slackware is old.
Suse has too many packages.

Debian wraps everything up nicely with dpkg and apt-get. Makes it very accessible. But at the same time they stay traditional.

I guess one could compare Slackware to Old Calendar.
Debian would probably be ROCOR.
Redhat and Mandrake would definitely be SCOBA.


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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2004, 02:41:54 PM »

Unix is baptist. I mean, come on-- everyone thinks they are rolling their own version when actually they are working off the same old thing.

Orthodoxy is OS/360.
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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2004, 03:12:03 PM »

Relive the days of Glory.

Download the Hercules emulator: http://www.conmicro.cx/hercules/

“ I do miss my mainframe a lot, and playing with Herc sure brings back memories. Just seeing the IBM message prefixes, and responding to console messages again was a wonderful bit of nostalgia! ”
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Relive the Hercules System/370, ESA/390!
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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2004, 03:32:54 PM »

Slackware. Other Linuces are just candy...

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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2004, 04:36:14 PM »

I haven't messed with Debian in ages and have never messed with slackware.  

Hmmmmm, ROCOR and Old Calendar . . . .

I'll have to give them a try.  That is, when I finish making the 25 gallons of beer for church!
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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2004, 04:36:43 PM »

I also think that Orthodoxy should be the abucus!  Fundemental & True.
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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2004, 04:49:25 PM »

I vote for the mac ... outnumbered but clearly superior.  

P.S. -- j/k, altho I do use a Mac for all of my non-work computing, so I am certainly biased.  Cheesy
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