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« on: October 05, 2011, 03:44:27 PM »

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I really don't listen to much of the music from my Protestant days, except for maybe DCTalk.

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Possible reunion next year. Tour or album or both? And what genre will they be this time around?
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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2011, 03:56:18 PM »

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Possible reunion next year. Tour or album or both? And what genre will they be this time around?

How many choices do they have left?
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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2011, 04:13:13 PM »

LOL about DC talk.
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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2011, 08:33:12 PM »

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Possible reunion next year. Tour or album or both? And what genre will they be this time around?

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Like how they they lied about not being disbanded when everyone knew they were?
They're never getting back together you guys. Never.
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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2011, 09:19:34 PM »

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I really don't listen to much of the music from my Protestant days, except for maybe DCTalk.

YES!!!!!



Possible reunion next year. Tour or album or both? And what genre will they be this time around?

How many choices do they have left?

Like how they they lied about not being disbanded when everyone knew they were?
They're never getting back together you guys. Never.


Better than lying about your lead singer retiring to "devote time to youth ministry" when you really mean "is addicted to various substances and having affairs", as another popular CCM group from the '90s did.

"Disbanded" can be a nebulous term in an era when the average release schedule is once every 3 years or so as opposed to the 2-3 albums a year the Beatles were pulling. But yeah, the Talk was dead once everyone started contributing lyrics (I'm looking at you artiste emo boy Kevin).
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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2011, 09:32:51 PM »

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I really don't listen to much of the music from my Protestant days, except for maybe DCTalk.

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Possible reunion next year. Tour or album or both? And what genre will they be this time around?

How many choices do they have left?

Like how they they lied about not being disbanded when everyone knew they were?
They're never getting back together you guys. Never.


Better than lying about your lead singer retiring to "devote time to youth ministry" when you really mean "is addicted to various substances and having affairs", as another popular CCM group from the '90s did.

"Disbanded" can be a nebulous term in an era when the average release schedule is once every 3 years or so as opposed to the 2-3 albums a year the Beatles were pulling. But yeah, the Talk was dead once everyone started contributing lyrics (I'm looking at you artiste emo boy Kevin).

True.
And psssh about Kevin. I bear more ill will toward Tobymac for being a dirty, dirty, sellout.
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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2011, 09:52:25 PM »

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I really don't listen to much of the music from my Protestant days, except for maybe DCTalk.

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Possible reunion next year. Tour or album or both? And what genre will they be this time around?

How many choices do they have left?

Like how they they lied about not being disbanded when everyone knew they were?
They're never getting back together you guys. Never.


Better than lying about your lead singer retiring to "devote time to youth ministry" when you really mean "is addicted to various substances and having affairs", as another popular CCM group from the '90s did.

"Disbanded" can be a nebulous term in an era when the average release schedule is once every 3 years or so as opposed to the 2-3 albums a year the Beatles were pulling. But yeah, the Talk was dead once everyone started contributing lyrics (I'm looking at you artiste emo boy Kevin).

True.
And psssh about Kevin. I bear more ill will toward Tobymac for being a dirty, dirty, sellout.

One of the things I always found funny about the CCM scene as opposed to the secular music field- in secular music you're a sell-out if you change your sound to either be more "relevant" or chase after record sales- so DC Talk would have been sell-outs circa Jesus Freak when they abandoned the hip-hop stylings that made them famous for their pseudo-grunge and TobyMac would merely (from what little of the post dc talk I've heard) be returning to form. In CCM you're a sell-out the second you start getting songs in movies and getting played on secular stations (and dc Talk would still have been the sell-outs- "Just Between You and Me" was a fairly decent hit on top 40 radio).

MxPx, on the other hand, are sell-outs no matter which way you slice it.
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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2011, 09:56:39 PM »

Most non-underground Christian artists have become sellouts, much like any popular artist. I heard Plumb's latest song and I am tres disappointed. It's so trite. She is much better than that.

Haven't listened to Rebecca St. James's new album, though, but I love her more out of nostalgia (she was my first favorite CCM artist -- Christian lyrics and techno-ish background music, loved the combination!).

I love how she published a book about men when she just got married. Don't get me started on that. I rolled my eyes when I heard about that. Sometimes people will do anything to make money. She should have sat on that project for a couple of years.

^THIS. I haven't listened to an RSJ album since Transform. I also loved how the men she interviewed were men she knew, all from the same demographic. Then she had the nerve to get up on TV and say what she said.T_T Lost a lot of respect for her for that...

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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2011, 09:56:49 PM »

I wanna hear the screamo or metalcore version of DC Talk.  Twould be awesome.
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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2011, 09:58:01 PM »

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I really don't listen to much of the music from my Protestant days, except for maybe DCTalk.

YES!!!!!



Possible reunion next year. Tour or album or both? And what genre will they be this time around?

How many choices do they have left?

Like how they they lied about not being disbanded when everyone knew they were?
They're never getting back together you guys. Never.


Better than lying about your lead singer retiring to "devote time to youth ministry" when you really mean "is addicted to various substances and having affairs", as another popular CCM group from the '90s did.

"Disbanded" can be a nebulous term in an era when the average release schedule is once every 3 years or so as opposed to the 2-3 albums a year the Beatles were pulling. But yeah, the Talk was dead once everyone started contributing lyrics (I'm looking at you artiste emo boy Kevin).

True.
And psssh about Kevin. I bear more ill will toward Tobymac for being a dirty, dirty, sellout.

One of the things I always found funny about the CCM scene as opposed to the secular music field- in secular music you're a sell-out if you change your sound to either be more "relevant" or chase after record sales- so DC Talk would have been sell-outs circa Jesus Freak when they abandoned the hip-hop stylings that made them famous for their pseudo-grunge and TobyMac would merely (from what little of the post dc talk I've heard) be returning to form. In CCM you're a sell-out the second you start getting songs in movies and getting played on secular stations (and dc Talk would still have been the sell-outs- "Just Between You and Me" was a fairly decent hit on top 40 radio).

MxPx, on the other hand, are sell-outs no matter which way you slice it.

Oooo +1 for MxPx Cheesy  

(Old school sellout MxPx, not the new sellout MxPx.)
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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2011, 10:00:25 PM »

I took all of the good things from Protestantism out with me, like Extol:

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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2011, 10:02:25 PM »

I wanna hear the screamo or metalcore version of DC Talk.  Twould be awesome.

The earlier rap albums would be entirely too easy. The Jesus Freak album I'm sure has been done. The Supernatural album couldn't be awesome no matter what you do to it.
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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2011, 10:07:19 PM »

I wanna hear the screamo or metalcore version of DC Talk.  Twould be awesome.

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The earlier rap albums would be entirely too easy. The Jesus Freak album I'm sure has been done. The Supernatural album couldn't be awesome no matter what you do to it.

I loved Supernatural. Tongue And it would have to be the earlier rap albums because Jesus Freak and Supernatural have both (not in their entirety) been covered by other bands as part of a "tribute to DC Talk" album.
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« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2011, 10:14:15 PM »

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The earlier rap albums would be entirely too easy. The Jesus Freak album I'm sure has been done. The Supernatural album couldn't be awesome no matter what you do to it.

I loved Supernatural. Tongue

I'm sorry, what part of "I'm a crotchety old man who thinks their last album wasn't as good as the first four and they really peaked at 'Nu Thang' anyway and you kids better get offa my lawn"  Angry are you not understanding?   angel
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I loved Supernatural. Tongue

I'm sorry, what part of "I'm a crotchety old man who thinks their last album wasn't as good as the first four and they really peaked at 'Nu Thang' anyway and you kids better get offa my lawn"  Angry are you not understanding?   angel

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« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2011, 11:17:02 PM »

Speaking of CCM, MercyMe's I Can Only Imagine is a great song. My favorite Christian song too.
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« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2011, 11:29:42 PM »

It's a good song. I can name some songs that I really like from some CCM bands and artists. Problem is when you listen to all of their albums, they just kind of mush together.
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« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2011, 11:39:15 PM »

I took all of the good things from Protestantism out with me, like Extol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVlOBbT5uCc&feature=related

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« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2011, 01:06:28 AM »

Better than lying about your lead singer retiring to "devote time to youth ministry" when you really mean "is addicted to various substances and having affairs", as another popular CCM group from the '90s did.

Please tell me that you aren't talking about Whitecross. Please!
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I took all of the good things from Protestantism out with me, like Extol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVlOBbT5uCc&feature=related

I also like terrible music. Though I don't like your terrible music. Still, it's not really things we miss, if we took them with us. Brb, going to go listen to Act of Depression...
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I wanna hear the screamo or metalcore version of DC Talk.  Twould be awesome.
The Supernatural album couldn't be awesome no matter what you do to it.

I dunno, I owned the album at one point, but the only song I liked on it was My Friend (So Long) *shrugs*
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I took all of the good things from Protestantism out with me, like Extol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVlOBbT5uCc&feature=related

respect this... If I take anything with me... it will DEFINITELY be Zao.

jeez... havent listened to Extol in years. Still listen to Zao almost every day though. 
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I think Toby Mac does a lot of producing stuff now.  He has recently helped and old friend of mine become the "next big thing" in Christian music.  Her name is Jamie Grace.  Number one hit on Christian radio right now.  We went to a small, private Christian school together.  She once made a video on her youtube (her channel also kinda helped spark her career) making fun of the music me and my buddy make.  This was mainly because we spent a lot of time making fun of her... guess shes getting the last laugh now...  Undecided
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I took all of the good things from Protestantism out with me, like Extol:

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respect this... If I take anything with me... it will DEFINITELY be Zao.

jeez... havent listened to Extol in years. Still listen to Zao almost every day though. 

Interesting. They're from the city about 10 miles up the road from me, so you'd think they'd have some type of hometown edge and I'd like them... but nope, could never get into them. I did like the Lesser Lights of Heaven DVD though.
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« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2011, 05:05:38 AM »

I think Toby Mac does a lot of producing stuff now.  He has recently helped and old friend of mine become the "next big thing" in Christian music.  Her name is Jamie Grace.  Number one hit on Christian radio right now.  We went to a small, private Christian school together.  She once made a video on her youtube (her channel also kinda helped spark her career) making fun of the music me and my buddy make.  This was mainly because we spent a lot of time making fun of her... guess shes getting the last laugh now...  Undecided

WUT. Shocked That's cool though. ... And now her song is stuck in my head.  Undecided
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« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2011, 06:23:05 AM »

Ugh, Zao! Mr. Ismi loves 'em, but I swear, they give me a headache of the worst degree (they're not the only ones, though).
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I think Toby Mac does a lot of producing stuff now.  He has recently helped and old friend of mine become the "next big thing" in Christian music.  Her name is Jamie Grace.  Number one hit on Christian radio right now.  We went to a small, private Christian school together.  She once made a video on her youtube (her channel also kinda helped spark her career) making fun of the music me and my buddy make.  This was mainly because we spent a lot of time making fun of her... guess shes getting the last laugh now...  Undecided

WUT. Shocked That's cool though. ... And now her song is stuck in my head.  Undecided

Haha.  Its not quite my preferred style of music, but it is a very catchy little song! Glad things are going well for her. 
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« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2011, 01:37:42 PM »

Most non-underground Christian artists have become sellouts, much like any popular artist. I heard Plumb's latest song and I am tres disappointed. It's so trite. She is much better than that.

Haven't listened to Rebecca St. James's new album, though, but I love her more out of nostalgia (she was my first favorite CCM artist -- Christian lyrics and techno-ish background music, loved the combination!).

I love how she published a book about men when she just got married. Don't get me started on that. I rolled my eyes when I heard about that. Sometimes people will do anything to make money. She should have sat on that project for a couple of years.

^THIS. I haven't listened to an RSJ album since Transform. I also loved how the men she interviewed were men she knew, all from the same demographic. Then she had the nerve to get up on TV and say what she said.T_T Lost a lot of respect for her for that...

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She said that, seriously? Wow.

I saw her on Hannity's show (my parents are big fans) and cringed the entire time. I almost shouted, "Hey, it's one of my favorite CCM singers!" but declined to do so once she wasn't really saying anything accurate about American politics. I don't know how she got in.
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I took all of the good things from Protestantism out with me, like Extol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVlOBbT5uCc&feature=related

respect this... If I take anything with me... it will DEFINITELY be Zao.

jeez... havent listened to Extol in years. Still listen to Zao almost every day though. 

Interesting. They're from the city about 10 miles up the road from me, so you'd think they'd have some type of hometown edge and I'd like them... but nope, could never get into them. I did like the Lesser Lights of Heaven DVD though.

Yea that DVD was great. They are one of the first metal bands i was in to.  I got my first zao record in 6th grade.

Ugh, Zao! Mr. Ismi loves 'em, but I swear, they give me a headache of the worst degree (they're not the only ones, though).

haha. my wife says the same thing....
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« Reply #29 on: October 06, 2011, 02:42:51 PM »

Most of it I can't stomach. I do like that song by Casting Crowns, "Does Anybody Hear Her" for personal reasons.
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« Reply #30 on: October 06, 2011, 04:19:35 PM »

The only contemporary Christian music I can stand is made by occultists so maybe not really Christian. Here's Current 93's "The Bloodbells Chime."

Oh, and then there's Yabby You (are the 1970's contemporary enough?)
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I took all of the good things from Protestantism out with me, like Extol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVlOBbT5uCc&feature=related

*Listens to nice tune at the beginning and then jumps back in terror.* laugh
LMAO, did the same thing.

I like Francesca Battistelli, in the folksy chick songwriter way. She has a nice voice. The lyrics are so blah, though. But I listen to a lot of songs with horrible lyrics, so I'll stop here.
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The only contemporary Christian music I can stand is made by occultists so maybe not really Christian. Here's Current 93's "The Bloodbells Chime."

Oh, and then there's Yabby You (are the 1970's contemporary enough?)

Contemporary enough for "contemporary worship" services at your local nondenom!
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« Reply #33 on: October 07, 2011, 01:28:16 PM »

Contemporary christian music - The bane of Christians, a big reason we're made fun of, and with a few exceptions, the worst music ever created.

Sadly, those knuckleheads DC talk formed here in Lynchburg at Liberty (most of em have houses here too) so you see their crap all over the place here.

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Contemporary christian music - The bane of Christians, a big reason we're made fun of, and with a few exceptions, the worst music ever created.

Sadly, those knuckleheads DC talk formed here in Lynchburg at Liberty (most of em have houses here too) so you see their crap all over the place here.

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Dont act like Jesus Freak isnt your jam!!!!

Kevin Max has one of the most impressive voices ever.  Although, lately he seems hes gotten a little weird.... Kinda gone off the deep end.
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« Reply #35 on: October 09, 2011, 03:08:35 AM »

Contemporary christian music - The bane of Christians, a big reason we're made fun of, and with a few exceptions, the worst music ever created.

Sadly, those knuckleheads DC talk formed here in Lynchburg at Liberty (most of em have houses here too) so you see their crap all over the place here.

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Dont act like Jesus Freak isnt your jam!!!!

Kevin Max has one of the most impressive voices ever.  Although, lately he seems hes gotten a little weird.... Kinda gone off the deep end.

Kmax has basically taken his absolute hatred of CCM to a very unnecessary level.  Undecided  
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« Reply #36 on: October 09, 2011, 08:48:02 PM »

I wanna hear the screamo or metalcore version of DC Talk.  Twould be awesome.

YES.

The earlier rap albums would be entirely too easy. The Jesus Freak album I'm sure has been done. The Supernatural album couldn't be awesome no matter what you do to it.

I loved Supernatural. Tongue And it would have to be the earlier rap albums because Jesus Freak and Supernatural have both (not in their entirety) been covered by other bands as part of a "tribute to DC Talk" album.
I loved Supernatural too!
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« Reply #37 on: October 10, 2011, 01:14:50 PM »

You can keep the lot of it. There's some thats not bad but its so rare I wont even entertain the idea of listening to something new as I dont want to waste the 20-30 mins of my life.

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« Reply #39 on: October 10, 2011, 02:14:09 PM »

Contemporary christian music - The bane of Christians, a big reason we're made fun of, and with a few exceptions, the worst music ever created.

Sadly, those knuckleheads DC talk formed here in Lynchburg at Liberty (most of em have houses here too) so you see their crap all over the place here.

Where's Bach when you need him?

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Dont act like Jesus Freak isnt your jam!!!!

Kevin Max has one of the most impressive voices ever.  Although, lately he seems hes gotten a little weird.... Kinda gone off the deep end.

Kmax has basically taken his absolute hatred of CCM to a very unnecessary level.  Undecided  

Agreed.
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« Reply #40 on: October 10, 2011, 05:48:54 PM »

I loved Supernatural too!

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« Reply #41 on: October 10, 2011, 06:10:59 PM »

Contemporary christian music - The bane of Christians, a big reason we're made fun of, and with a few exceptions, the worst music ever created.

Completely with you.  Pretty sure God thinks it's horrid as well.

You can keep the lot of it.
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« Reply #42 on: October 10, 2011, 11:44:50 PM »


fantastic record. man, the thought of that record makes me feel old. and it was even one of their newer ones!
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« Reply #43 on: October 11, 2011, 01:21:52 AM »


fantastic record. man, the thought of that record makes me feel old. and it was even one of their newer ones!
Wasn't it shortly before they broke up? Yeah, '98. I listened to that CD so many times when I got it. Saw them in person one of those years shortly before they did separate acts. Aren't all of their newer ones their separate acts, Tait, Toby Mac, and Kevin Max?
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fantastic record. man, the thought of that record makes me feel old. and it was even one of their newer ones!
Wasn't it shortly before they broke up? Yeah, '98. I listened to that CD so many times when I got it. Saw them in person one of those years shortly before they did separate acts. Aren't all of their newer ones their separate acts, Tait, Toby Mac, and Kevin Max?

Yes, but I think Toby's is the only successful one.  Kevin was doing pretty well, as he deserves because is voice is so phenomenal, but as i mentioned earlier hes gotten really weird...  Not sure whats up.
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