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Author Topic: Science Vs. Spirituality: Chopra And Mlodinow Discuss 'War Of The Worldviews'  (Read 373 times) Average Rating: 0
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« on: October 01, 2011, 03:16:56 AM »


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The debate between science and spirituality is framed as a knock down fight for truth with winner take all. But does it have to be that way? On Oct. 4th, at 1 p.m. EST, Deepak Chopra and Leonard Mlodinow will debate science and spirituality based on their new book: "War of the Worldviews." The event will be streamed here LIVE on AOL and Huffington Post.

Deepak Chopra is a physician and one of the most highly regarded spiritual teachers in the world; and Leonard Mlodinow teaches Physics at Cal Tech and co-authored, along with Stephen Hawkings, of "The Grand Design." Chopra and Mlodinow wrote "War of the Worldviews: Science vs. Spirituality" to help start an intelligent and civil conversation about this very hot subject.
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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2011, 03:22:53 AM »

Deepak Chopra is ...one of the most highly regarded spiritual teachers in the world

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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2011, 11:42:28 AM »

They could have picked better people for both sides of this thing. Victor Stenger and Met. Ware. Go!  Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2011, 02:19:13 PM »

They could have picked better people for both sides of this thing. Victor Stenger and Met. Ware. Go!  Smiley
That would be one long debate.

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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2011, 10:42:27 AM »

Chopra and Mlodinow on OnPoint:

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What happens, then, when two worldviews clash? In 399 BCE three Athenian citizens accused Socrates of refusing to recognize the traditional gods and introducing new divinities instead (he was also accused of corrupting their youth). The penalty for this clash of worldviews, or gods, was death. During his trial Socrates refused to back down or to flee from a certain verdict of guilty. According to Plato, he said, “So long as I draw breath and have my faculties, I shall never stop practicing philosophy.” Unfortunately, in many parts of the world today, a clash of worldviews is still met with violence and death.
 
This book is about a clash of worldviews, but no blows were exchanged. The book came about when two strangers met at a televised debate on “the future of God.” The setting was an auditorium at the California Institute of Technology, and the audience was composed of many scientists and students, but also of laypeople, including Deepak’s fans from the surrounding community. Each of them brought his or her own personal beliefs— no doubt some of them were religious— but they also brought their own worldview, which runs much deeper than belief.
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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2011, 11:54:39 AM »

Yeah the division between the "spirituality" camp and "science" camp is tearing this world apart.

Hey at least their PR folks are working for them.

Did you read the book they authored together?

What a waste of time.

Time to catch up on that the evolution thread. I am just turning page 137.
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