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« on: September 27, 2011, 05:14:52 PM »

I am facing more opposition at home. My mother brought up Orthodoxy this morning and has demanded that I stop using the internet to research/be involved with anything or anyone related to it (which means Oc.net would definitely have to go  Sad ). I have told her before I would never adhere to that. Being barred from visiting a Orthodox parish is all that I can handle- I'd rather not live out the next year or two (which is when I'll be stable enough to move out) in total isolation.

Please pray for me, a sinner.


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My mom called me a convert... Too bad it doesn't actually count in the Church.  Undecided
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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2011, 05:17:53 PM »

Lord, have mercy.

My advice would most likely contradict others, but for what it's worth, I would continue in your journey somehow. You seem to be of adult age, and I think it's ridiculous that she's still monitoring your Internet use.

But I have dealt with parents who are very unhappy with conversion in my life and it's a very difficult and trying time, and it certainly makes you think about the "Honor thy mother and father" commandment over and over again. But I personally do not believe that honoring them and not converting would only hurt me spiritually. I will defer to what others more experienced have to say, but hold on. We seem to come from a similar background, so PM me if you want to talk anytime.

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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2011, 05:23:59 PM »

Lord, have mercy.

My advice would most likely contradict others, but for what it's worth, I would continue in your journey somehow. You seem to be of adult age, and I think it's ridiculous that she's still monitoring your Internet use.

But I have dealt with parents who are very unhappy with conversion in my life and it's a very difficult and trying time, and it certainly makes you think about the "Honor thy mother and father" commandment over and over again. But I personally do not believe that honoring them and not converting would only hurt me spiritually. I will defer to what others more experienced have to say, but hold on. We seem to come from a similar background, so PM me if you want to talk anytime.

Liora

Thank you. (My mom keeps throwing that commandment around so much it makes my head hurt.)
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2011, 05:25:47 PM »


Lord, have mercy.

Hang in there!
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2011, 06:25:31 PM »

Lord have mercy.
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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2011, 06:32:20 PM »

Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy.

Are you 18 or over? If so, at home you can obey her, but at school or at the library, you can use the Internet there.

When I was living at home and my mom did not want me to go to church, I would take a lengthy walk and pray.
I needed to pray to keep my sanity.
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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2011, 06:37:16 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2011, 07:23:28 PM »

Lord, have mercy.

My advice would most likely contradict others, but for what it's worth, I would continue in your journey somehow. You seem to be of adult age, and I think it's ridiculous that she's still monitoring your Internet use.

But I have dealt with parents who are very unhappy with conversion in my life and it's a very difficult and trying time, and it certainly makes you think about the "Honor thy mother and father" commandment over and over again. But I personally do not believe that honoring them and not converting would only hurt me spiritually. I will defer to what others more experienced have to say, but hold on. We seem to come from a similar background, so PM me if you want to talk anytime.

Liora

Thank you. (My mom keeps throwing that commandment around so much it makes my head hurt.)

I've often wondered how we as Christians should live out both "Honor Thy Father and Mother"  and Christ's words "He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me"  ?? 

Brandi, you are in a difficult situation.  I wish I had some words of wisdom.
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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2011, 07:25:21 PM »

Lord have mercy!

when children pray for their parents , with love for their spiritual well being, these kind of prayers certainly will be heard by the Lord, pray for your mother, i have seen conversions happen in the least expected people due to these kind of prayers.  parents who have strayed from the Faith have returned, just as children who have strayed have returned,so keep praying.And if you can not use the internet while at home, it is a great time to take out a library card and read books by Orthodox authors, in reading these books you will use your time to strengthen your faith from those that explain the faith, and those that manifest it through the example of their lives and prayers that will help you get closer to the Lord.
and while you are in the library you also can use the internet to benefit from this great forum as I do.so do not be discouraged my dear sister.May the Lord have mercy on you and your family!
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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2011, 07:48:07 PM »

Lord, have mercy.

My advice would most likely contradict others, but for what it's worth, I would continue in your journey somehow. You seem to be of adult age, and I think it's ridiculous that she's still monitoring your Internet use.

But I have dealt with parents who are very unhappy with conversion in my life and it's a very difficult and trying time, and it certainly makes you think about the "Honor thy mother and father" commandment over and over again. But I personally do not believe that honoring them and not converting would only hurt me spiritually. I will defer to what others more experienced have to say, but hold on. We seem to come from a similar background, so PM me if you want to talk anytime.

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Thank you. (My mom keeps throwing that commandment around so much it makes my head hurt.)

I've often wondered how we as Christians should live out both "Honor Thy Father and Mother"  and Christ's words "He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me"  ?? 

Brandi, you are in a difficult situation.  I wish I had some words of wisdom.

Luke 12:52 might assist: "for from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three."
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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2011, 08:01:25 PM »

Tell her to go jump in a lake. You're 22 years old, she has no right to force you to not research something.

You're in my prayers.
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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2011, 08:35:51 PM »

I've often wondered how we as Christians should live out both "Honor Thy Father and Mother"  and Christ's words "He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me"  ?? 

Brandi, you are in a difficult situation.  I wish I had some words of wisdom.

Luke 12:52 might assist: "for from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three."

I mentioned both of those passages- neither of them went over well. I do find them kind of encouraging though.
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« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2011, 08:37:52 PM »

I think that using those against your parents will only make them angrier. They sure infuriated mine. :-/ But I kept them in mind as I went to church and continued standing firm in my faith. But I know it's not easy, and the constant guilt trips are the worst of it.
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« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2011, 08:41:39 PM »

Lord have mercy!

when children pray for their parents , with love for their spiritual well being, these kind of prayers certainly will be heard by the Lord, pray for your mother, i have seen conversions happen in the least expected people due to these kind of prayers.  parents who have strayed from the Faith have returned, just as children who have strayed have returned,so keep praying.And if you can not use the internet while at home, it is a great time to take out a library card and read books by Orthodox authors, in reading these books you will use your time to strengthen your faith from those that explain the faith, and those that manifest it through the example of their lives and prayers that will help you get closer to the Lord.
and while you are in the library you also can use the internet to benefit from this great forum as I do.so do not be discouraged my dear sister.May the Lord have mercy on you and your family!

Yes, definitely- I do have a library card and we live down the street from a library, so I've considered this as a last resort. And I will continue praying for myself and my family. Thank you for your prayers and encouragement! Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2011, 08:45:38 PM »

I think that using those against your parents will only make them angrier. They sure infuriated mine. :-/ But I kept them in mind as I went to church and continued standing firm in my faith. But I know it's not easy, and the constant guilt trips are the worst of it.

Yep. Exactly what happened. I won't be doing anything like that again.  Undecided
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« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2011, 08:50:08 PM »


I needed to pray to keep my sanity.

I feel exactly like this. (I'm 22, by the way.)




Again, everyone, thanks for you prayers and encouragement.  Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2011, 11:10:27 PM »


I needed to pray to keep my sanity.

I feel exactly like this. (I'm 22, by the way.)




Again, everyone, thanks for you prayers and encouragement.  Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2011, 11:18:23 PM »

I think that using those against your parents will only make them angrier. They sure infuriated mine. :-/ But I kept them in mind as I went to church and continued standing firm in my faith. But I know it's not easy, and the constant guilt trips are the worst of it.

I'm not suggesting she ask to provoke her parents.  I'm seriously curious.

Good luck to you Brandi.  I do understand that it is their home and they need to have some ground rules, but you're not 13 and this just seems like their trying to control your thoughts too.  It's not like you're bringing men back to the house to spend the night or having drug parties in your room or something.  It is sad to me that, by their actions, your parents seem to be putting a wedge between you and them.

Although I know the economy is pretty stinky, I hope you are able to move out much sooner than 2yrs from now.
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« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2011, 11:43:43 PM »

Lord, have mercy.

If you need any moral support or someone just to talk to, feel free to PM or Email me. =)
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« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2011, 02:08:52 AM »

I think that using those against your parents will only make them angrier. They sure infuriated mine. :-/ But I kept them in mind as I went to church and continued standing firm in my faith. But I know it's not easy, and the constant guilt trips are the worst of it.

I'm not suggesting she ask to provoke her parents.  I'm seriously curious.

Good luck to you Brandi.  I do understand that it is their home and they need to have some ground rules, but you're not 13 and this just seems like their trying to control your thoughts too.  It's not like you're bringing men back to the house to spend the night or having drug parties in your room or something.  It is sad to me that, by their actions, your parents seem to be putting a wedge between you and them.

Although I know the economy is pretty stinky, I hope you are able to move out much sooner than 2yrs from now.

I hope so too. Which is why I'm looking into grad schools. Wink

Lord, have mercy.

If you need any moral support or someone just to talk to, feel free to PM or Email me. =)

Thank you. Smiley
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« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2011, 04:57:30 AM »

Lord, have mercy!
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