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« Reply #45 on: September 26, 2011, 02:54:44 PM »

greetings in that divine and most precious name of our lord and savior jesus christ!
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« Reply #46 on: September 26, 2011, 03:36:27 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Jaki


Seems pretty interesting. No surprise liberal university and school teachers wouldn't mention a priest philosopher.
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« Reply #47 on: September 26, 2011, 06:34:51 PM »

For those so inclined, I recommend Wolfgang Smith refreshing assessment of philosophy of science in these books:

The Quantum Enigma (I'm still reading it)
http://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Enigma-Finding-Hidden-Key/dp/089385042X

Science & Myth (not read yet)
http://www.amazon.com/Science-Myth-What-Never-Told/dp/1597310972/ref=pd_sim_b2


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Smith is a member of the Traditionalist School of Metaphysics, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Smith
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The plague of scientistic belief
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So an Orthodox Christian is interested in a system which links the scientific method to the philosophy of St. Thomas Aquinas?
If you're referring to Smith,  I believe he is Catholic (Roman).
Right. And an Orthodox Christian poster here is interested in his system (system of Wolfgang Smith) which links the scientific method to the philosophy of the Catholic scholasticism or thomism.

Wolfgang Smith is also a Perenialist of the school of Guenon and Schuon - which I believe were both a bit '"nutty". But I don't stereotype anyone. Not even Aquinas. His philosophy is very good. It is when it is used as theology that the problems start. Pretty much like a car. I repudiate the concept that one can use a Porsche to go to Mars (which is what people try to do with philosophy regarding theology sometimes), but no-one can deny that a Porsche is a very good car itself.

I like Aquinas and Thomism as a philosophy. But precisely because I like it as philosophy that I wouldn't dogmatize about it as it were theology.

Said that, I do believe that a return to classic philosophy would do much good to the philosophy of Science - a very first good step Wolfgang has taken, but I wonder how many with his competence are able to follow and further develop.
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« Reply #48 on: September 26, 2011, 10:42:57 PM »

Less surprising if the hypothetical holographic model of the universe holds any merit.
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« Reply #49 on: September 27, 2011, 02:04:27 AM »

There are a lot of things that can travel at the speed of light, but is there anything that can travel at the speed of dark?
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« Reply #50 on: September 27, 2011, 10:38:05 AM »

There are a lot of things that can travel at the speed of light, but is there anything that can travel at the speed of dark?

That's profound dude.

Only thing I can think of is sitcom writing... nothing can take us more quickly into the abyss and darkness and vacuity than that!
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« Reply #51 on: September 27, 2011, 03:16:43 PM »

i just read that Tesla said(in 1932) that there are particles which travel faster than light... in an interview with John O'Neil in the Brooklyn eagle newspaper from July 10th 1932 btw the date is Tesla's birthday


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« Reply #52 on: September 27, 2011, 06:04:10 PM »

i just read that Tesla said(in 1932) that there are particles which travel faster than light... in an interview with John O'Neil in the Brooklyn eagle newspaper from July 10th 1932 btw the date is Tesla's birthday

The Scopes' "Monkey Trial" began on 10 July (1925).
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« Reply #53 on: September 29, 2011, 12:33:02 AM »

There are a lot of things that can travel at the speed of light, but is there anything that can travel at the speed of dark?
The "speed of dark" is the speed of light. Since darkness is the absence of light, however fast light can leave is the speed at which darkness can arrive.
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« Reply #54 on: September 29, 2011, 01:01:37 AM »

Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

Scientists are so cute.  So how did they clock the supra-light speed of this sub atomic particle? Oh right, with their man-made technology.  How did they clock the speed of light in the first place? Oh right, with their man-made technology.  Sounds like a classic case of anthropomorphism to me Wink

No, it's called an experiment.
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« Reply #55 on: September 29, 2011, 01:44:22 AM »

i just read that Tesla said(in 1932) that there are particles which travel faster than light... in an interview with John O'Neil in the Brooklyn eagle newspaper from July 10th 1932 btw the date is Tesla's birthday


http://www.24sata.rs/vesti/svet/vest/tesla-jos-1932-znao-za-cestice-brze-od-svetlosti/14364.phtml

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I think that tachyons can travel faster than the speed of light, but not less.
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« Reply #56 on: September 29, 2011, 07:43:53 AM »

i just read that Tesla said(in 1932) that there are particles which travel faster than light... in an interview with John O'Neil in the Brooklyn eagle newspaper from July 10th 1932 btw the date is Tesla's birthday


http://www.24sata.rs/vesti/svet/vest/tesla-jos-1932-znao-za-cestice-brze-od-svetlosti/14364.phtml

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I think that tachyons can travel faster than the speed of light, but not less.
You're right. That's what K-PAX said.
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« Reply #57 on: September 29, 2011, 01:02:53 PM »

i just read that Tesla said(in 1932) that there are particles which travel faster than light... in an interview with John O'Neil in the Brooklyn eagle newspaper from July 10th 1932 btw the date is Tesla's birthday


http://www.24sata.rs/vesti/svet/vest/tesla-jos-1932-znao-za-cestice-brze-od-svetlosti/14364.phtml

http://www.brooklyneagle.com/



I think that tachyons can travel faster than the speed of light, but not less.

u r right my friend

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachyon


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« Reply #58 on: September 29, 2011, 02:52:06 PM »

Guys, I am not a physicist, so forgive me if this is terribly naive. One argument that I seem to have heard against the possibility that a particle travels faster than light is that if it does, its mass will grow to infinity. Photons have no mass, and that's the reason why their seed is the speed of light (in vaccum). Am I anywhere near the correct physics?
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« Reply #59 on: September 29, 2011, 03:08:13 PM »

Guys, I am not a physicist, so forgive me if this is terribly naive. One argument that I seem to have heard against the possibility that a particle travels accelerates to a speed faster than light is that if it does, its mass will grow to infinity. Photons have no mass, and that's the reason why their seed is the speed of light (in vaccum). Am I anywhere near the correct physics?
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« Reply #60 on: September 29, 2011, 03:17:15 PM »

Guys, I am not a physicist, so forgive me if this is terribly naive. One argument that I seem to have heard against the possibility that a particle travels accelerates to a speed faster than light is that if it does, its mass will grow to infinity. Photons have no mass, and that's the reason why their seed is the speed of light (in vaccum). Am I anywhere near the correct physics?
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Thank you; so, how does this "sit" with the discovery of particles that move faster than the speed of light? If they just travel with a speed of, say, 350 or 400 thousand kilometers per hour all the time, rather than accelerate to this speed - they do not increase their mass, correct?
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« Reply #61 on: September 29, 2011, 03:34:37 PM »

Guys, I am not a physicist, so forgive me if this is terribly naive. One argument that I seem to have heard against the possibility that a particle travels accelerates to a speed faster than light is that if it does, its mass will grow to infinity. Photons have no mass, and that's the reason why their seed is the speed of light (in vaccum). Am I anywhere near the correct physics?
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Thank you; so, how does this "sit" with the discovery of particles that move faster than the speed of light? If they just travel with a speed of, say, 350 or 400 thousand kilometers per hour all the time, rather than accelerate to this speed - they do not increase their mass, correct?
If you're asking whether particles with mass that travel at superluminal speeds all the time (as opposed to accelerating from sub- to supraluminal speeds), whether these particle increase their mass, I'm not sure. But according to Einstein, a mass-particle accelerating from sub- to superluminal speeds would need an impossibly infinite amount of energy.

But the finding might not overturn Einstein physics -- if these neutrinos are actually members of the hypothetical class of particles (tachyons) that always travel at superluminal speeds.
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« Reply #62 on: September 29, 2011, 03:40:51 PM »

Guys, I am not a physicist, so forgive me if this is terribly naive. One argument that I seem to have heard against the possibility that a particle travels accelerates to a speed faster than light is that if it does, its mass will grow to infinity. Photons have no mass, and that's the reason why their seed is the speed of light (in vaccum). Am I anywhere near the correct physics?
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Thank you; so, how does this "sit" with the discovery of particles that move faster than the speed of light? If they just travel with a speed of, say, 350 or 400 thousand kilometers per hour all the time, rather than accelerate to this speed - they do not increase their mass, correct?
If you're asking whether particles with mass that travel at superluminal speeds all the time (as opposed to accelerating from sub- to supraluminal speeds), whether these particle increase their mass, I'm not sure. But according to Einstein, a mass-particle accelerating from sub- to superluminal speeds would need an impossibly infinite amount of energy.

But the finding might not overturn Einstein physics -- if these neutrinos are actually members of the hypothetical class of particles (tachyons) that always travel at superluminal speeds.

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« Reply #63 on: September 29, 2011, 04:40:41 PM »

Guys, I am not a physicist, so forgive me if this is terribly naive. One argument that I seem to have heard against the possibility that a particle travels accelerates to a speed faster than light is that if it does, its mass will grow to infinity. Photons have no mass, and that's the reason why their seed is the speed of light (in vaccum). Am I anywhere near the correct physics?
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Thank you; so, how does this "sit" with the discovery of particles that move faster than the speed of light? If they just travel with a speed of, say, 350 or 400 thousand kilometers per hour all the time, rather than accelerate to this speed - they do not increase their mass, correct?
If you're asking whether particles with mass that travel at superluminal speeds all the time (as opposed to accelerating from sub- to supraluminal speeds), whether these particle increase their mass, I'm not sure. But according to Einstein, a mass-particle accelerating from sub- to superluminal speeds would need an impossibly infinite amount of energy.

But the finding might not overturn Einstein physics -- if these neutrinos are actually members of the hypothetical class of particles (tachyons) that always travel at superluminal speeds.
The mass of a tachyon in standard relativity  involves an imaginary factor which theoretically might be eliminated by condensation.
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« Reply #64 on: June 09, 2012, 12:11:33 AM »

Faster-Than-Light Neutrinos Aren't

The same lab that first reported the shocking results last year, which could have upended modern physics, now reports that neutrinos 'respect the cosmic speed limit'...
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« Reply #65 on: June 09, 2012, 12:16:40 AM »

Hurray!

The Earth is still only 6000 years old, dinosaurs walked with man and evolution doesn't exist!
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« Reply #66 on: June 09, 2012, 12:19:45 AM »

Hurray!

The Earth is still only 6000 years old, dinosaurs walked with man and evolution doesn't exist!
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« Reply #67 on: June 09, 2012, 12:34:04 AM »

Hurray!

The Earth is still only 6000 years old, dinosaurs walked with man and evolution doesn't exist!
Huh

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« Reply #68 on: June 09, 2012, 05:59:59 AM »

Faster-Than-Light Neutrinos Aren't

The same lab that first reported the shocking results last year, which could have upended modern physics, now reports that neutrinos 'respect the cosmic speed limit'...

This was the same experiment which prompted the head scientist to resign when their work was questioned, right?

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« Reply #69 on: June 09, 2012, 12:34:23 PM »

Hurray!

The Earth is still only 6000 years old, dinosaurs walked with man and evolution doesn't exist!
Huh

Turn your sarcasm-detector™ on Wink
My sarcasm detector was on, and I still couldn't get the point of his post.
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« Reply #70 on: June 09, 2012, 02:53:38 PM »

I think the point was one of ridicule against those who discredit science and the system of validating/invalidating other scientists' works.  I could be wrong though.  It could be ridiculing the system itself.
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« Reply #71 on: June 09, 2012, 04:22:05 PM »

I think the point was one of ridicule against those who discredit science and the system of validating/invalidating other scientists' works.  I could be wrong though.  It could be ridiculing the system itself.
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« Reply #72 on: June 09, 2012, 04:32:13 PM »

How come you can't break the speed of light by throwing a lamp?
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« Reply #73 on: June 09, 2012, 10:49:36 PM »

I'm reading Speed of Dark by Elizabeth Moon which I'm finding quite interesting.  While the main idea is the idea of a possible "cure" for persons who are high-functioning autistics, the main character thinks about the "speed of dark" and that it's faster than light because it "gets away" from the light.

This book won the Nebula award in 2003. She drew on the experiences of many people who have autism including her son.

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« Reply #74 on: June 09, 2012, 11:05:21 PM »

Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

How come you can't break the speed of light by throwing a lamp?



Like these dudes thought?

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« Reply #75 on: June 10, 2012, 12:12:17 AM »

Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

Scientists are so cute.  So how did they clock the supra-light speed of this sub atomic particle? Oh right, with their man-made technology.  How did they clock the speed of light in the first place? Oh right, with their man-made technology.  Sounds like a classic case of anthropomorphism to me Wink

So we assumed we were smart enough to conceive of the speed of light by our own silly definitions, and now logically our definitions have expanded with our technology, and surely these current understandings will only change as well in the future.  The problem is that too many scientists today are ideologues about their science, they take it as Gospel truth as the Gospels, and then they are surprised when by their own curious methods they make new discoveries, as if the the fundamental premise of science to begin with wasn't experimentation to learn knew understandings and new perspectives.  To limit one scientific understanding as dogma is to prevent the next discovery and therefore a contradiction to the true ethos of science, but hey, let em have their fun, it only costs a few billion dollars Wink

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I love science, I just think scientists are cute how stuck in their assumptions they are, and then when things like this happen, new discoveries, it really shakes them up, but all for nothing really.

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Like these dudes thought?

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