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Rite of Braga
« on: September 19, 2011, 03:00:01 PM »
I read about the Bragan Rite whilst reading up on the non-canonical (formerly canonical?) Orthodox church in Portugal. I understand it's allowed in RC churches in the Archdiocese of Braga...Are there any canonical Orthodox churches using it now the Portugese are in schism?

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Re: Rite of Braga
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2011, 03:32:17 PM »
I read about the Bragan Rite whilst reading up on the non-canonical (formerly canonical?) Orthodox church in Portugal. I understand it's allowed in RC churches in the Archdiocese of Braga...Are there any canonical Orthodox churches using it now the Portugese are in schism?



Not that I know of, but next time I go to Portugal, I want to attend it. But in Braga, in the actual Roman church. The "Orthodox" church of Portugal is just a charlatan's work, not even a schism.

There was a group of Portuguese and Brazilians who converted to an Old Calendar church and had the grandiloquent name of "Church of All Portugal, Spain and Brazil" with the proud aim of becoming the Orthodox Church of Iberia and of the lands colonized by them.  They repented though and asked and received the protection of the canonical Orthodox Church of Poland.

Things were well, until the original leader of the group, Metropolitan Gabriel, passed away. The newly elected bishop João was elevated in Poland, just to the "plain" rank of bishop  but returned wearing the vestiments of a metropolitan and claiming he had been elevated to this rank. Besides this, some financial scandals appeared and some ethical-theological too. Part of the Brazilian clergy entered in contact with the mother church in Poland which started investigations and found out about the financial and heretical misbehaviour of Bishop João - pretending to be a metropolitan being the smallest of them. The Portuguese side of the group was defrocked and two of the Brazilian priests were made bishops by the Polish Church: Archbishop Don Crisóstomos of Rio de Janeiro and Bishop Don Ambrósio of Recife, which are canonically under the Polish Church and with their jurisdictions limited to Brazil only.

Another part of the Brazilian clergy and faithful wanted to stay away from all this story and were accepted by Don Mitrophan of the US Eastern Diocese of the Serbian Church. That's the group led by Archpriest Alex. Both groups are very honest, faithful and active in missionary action in Brazil.

The Portuguese group, still under the charlatan João, is still up to their misdoings in Portugal, unfortunately.
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Re: Rite of Braga
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2011, 04:05:23 PM »
By the way, here is the "Missal Bracarense". If you understand Latin, have fun. :D

http://ffyl.uncu.edu.ar/departamentos/filosofia/centros/cefim/Missale%20Bracarense.pdf
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Re: Rite of Braga
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2018, 10:00:29 PM »
Some points I've come across by studying this rite recently, if anyone (including Agabus) be curious:
  • The supposed usage of the Bracarense rite by Orthodox Christians in Portugal seems to be a hoax. The Wikipedia page links to the group under Metropolitan John, which exclusively practices the Byzantine rite.
  • The Bracarense rite is not exactly native to Portugal, at least not in the same sense the Mozarabic rite is native to Southern Spain. This rite developed as a local variant of the Latin rite from the Early Middle Ages. Before that early introduction of the Latin rite in Braga, Portugal practiced the Mozarabic rite, or at least Mozarabic-ish rites. For some reason, this native rite of Portugal seems to have been extinct early enough while Braga, the very first place to have the Latin rite introduced, developed it independently, and, for that very reason, the Council of Trent allowed it to be preserved.
  • The vast majority of priests in the Archdiocese of Braga use Paul VI's mass. It's a big archdiocese, however, so maybe this minority that still prays it is significant enough. Archbishop Jorge Ortiga still prays it occasionally, which is a good thing. I doubt there are English bishops praying the Sarum rite, or Spanish bishops praying the Mozarabic rite, for instance. Sometimes they send priests to pray it in Fátima, the international pilgrimage site, which is way outside Braga.
  • It is prayed both in Latin and in Portuguese. I've linked one video for each. The Portuguese version seems to is a bit Novus Ordo-ised: in the video I've linked, they start by singing Toda nossa glória, which is a XX-century song, and the celebrant prays versus populum. It's still extremely solemn, however.
  • Here's some Bracarense chant. Am I crazy or this sounds halfway between Gregorian and Mozarabic?
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Re: Rite of Braga
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2018, 12:26:18 PM »
Some points I've come across by studying this rite recently, if anyone (including Agabus) be curious:
  • The supposed usage of the Bracarense rite by Orthodox Christians in Portugal seems to be a hoax. The Wikipedia page links to the group under Metropolitan John, which exclusively practices the Byzantine rite.
  • The Bracarense rite is not exactly native to Portugal, at least not in the same sense the Mozarabic rite is native to Southern Spain. This rite developed as a local variant of the Latin rite from the Early Middle Ages. Before that early introduction of the Latin rite in Braga, Portugal practiced the Mozarabic rite, or at least Mozarabic-ish rites. For some reason, this native rite of Portugal seems to have been extinct early enough while Braga, the very first place to have the Latin rite introduced, developed it independently, and, for that very reason, the Council of Trent allowed it to be preserved.
  • The vast majority of priests in the Archdiocese of Braga use Paul VI's mass. It's a big archdiocese, however, so maybe this minority that still prays it is significant enough. Archbishop Jorge Ortiga still prays it occasionally, which is a good thing. I doubt there are English bishops praying the Sarum rite, or Spanish bishops praying the Mozarabic rite, for instance. Sometimes they send priests to pray it in Fátima, the international pilgrimage site, which is way outside Braga.
  • It is prayed both in Latin and in Portuguese. I've linked one video for each. The Portuguese version seems to is a bit Novus Ordo-ised: in the video I've linked, they start by singing Toda nossa glória, which is a XX-century song, and the celebrant prays versus populum. It's still extremely solemn, however.
  • Here's some Bracarense chant. Am I crazy or this sounds halfway between Gregorian and Mozarabic?

Cool.

I saw the reply under this and that I was the OP, and my first thought was When did I post this again? But I see the 2011 date stamp, and it makes sense I don't remember something from seven years ago.

Nevertheless, your post is illuminating. Thanks.
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