Greetings int hat Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!
So now you and primuspllus owe the forum an apology for such racially and historically insensitive comments? Failure to evolve? Its on them? Seriously?
Your seed money but has merit, but you fail to show how this only affects people of a certain race. Furthermore, if people are still suffering from the effects of slavery, that neither they nor their parents suffered under, then this would be a failure to evolve. That's on them. By your logic I should be much more stunted than the minority groups in the US because my ancestors suffered under 800 years of British oppression. Hell, slavery is over and gone but part of my ancestral homeland is STILL under the occupation of the British. No James, when people fail to adapt and then look for excuses, they will only continue failing to adapt.
The vast majority of wealth held by major corporations and the super wealthy is directly related to the history of slavery and racial inequality in this country. Now today, these corporations equally fleece brown folks from the Americas the way they used to fleece black folks. It is pure greed and exploitation. It is not a matter of meritocracy, or evolving, or bucking up, it is a matter of a systematic exploitation perpetuated by businesses. Attitudes like those expressed on the thread (I.E. of denial) or exaggerate the problem and perpetuate it across further generations. The first step to solving a problem is to admit there is one, and in the United States today, racial inequality and racism has not been yet resolved, there is still a problem to solve, not one to further ignore and pretend it never happened
Lord have His mercy, if this weren't the internet I might just get a bit more upset.
How did many large corporations today get their money from slavery? Slavery has been out since 1865 and the South wasn't known for it's industrialization. It was an agrarian society. Most of what it did have the North smashed in it's invasion. At this point your argument is still non sequitor, though I would be more than willing to listen if you can show me exact examples (in a concise format, I'm not big on reading links) of modern corporations (please stick with the largest, let's say, ten or so) that have directly profited from slavery.
As for the exploitation of 'brown' labourers, I am fully with you on this. They should not be allowed to enter the country. They are not only being taken advantage of by unscrupulous people, but are also driving down our wages and taking up manufacturing jobs that should be available to lower class American citizens (like me). Likewise, I think using sweat shops in foreign countries is a travesty. Of course, it has been shown that most labourers in third world countries are better off in sweat shops than in prostitution or just starving (they are way too overpopulated so sustenance farming is generally out...Bangladesh, I'm looking at you...) but once again, this is taking jobs from my fellow countrymen. I think these shops should be hit with tariffs. If a company wanted to use cheap foreign labour out of the kindness of their hearts, or due to better workmanship, etc, they could just skip on the bonuses and jets and then break even.
Now I will have to disagree with you on the meritocracy, evolving, and buckling up. I want to see results, not fuzzy feelings. I'll take my warm fuzzy feelings when I go to the bar on Friday night and chat with the pretty bartenders. When it gets to social structure, economics, etc., I want to see results. The best way for this is for people to better themselves. Yes, we should help others out and I try as best I can, and as I build up my own economic base I will do more to help my less fortunate friends out in finding jobs, getting educated, and having a place to stay if it gets to that point. I am a big believer in the concept of 'networked tribes' and the 'resilient community'. (If you are interested in this subject, I recommend anything by John Robb.) I think the Roman clientella
system is one of the better ideas I've ever heard. But people ultimately will have to work, take opportunities where they present themselves, and improve themselves. People who refuse to help themselves are unhelpable. I see no purpose in wasting sympathy, effort, and time on those who refuse to help me help them.
As for apologies, if you can prove to me I said anything untruthful then an apology will be forthcoming. Otherwise, I believe that everything I have said is logical and is proven daily by the lives of thousands upon thousands of people around me.