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Re: Metal and Rock Thread
« Reply #225 on: January 24, 2016, 11:41:09 PM »
Rock music is dead.

Undead, undead, undead.


Serious Bonus points to you! You are now speaking my genre (and related)

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Re: Metal and Rock Thread
« Reply #226 on: May 22, 2016, 09:12:53 PM »
Megadeth drummer, Nick Menza, who played on such classic albums like Countdown to Extinction, Youthanasia and the monumental, Rust in Peace, died of heart failure at 51.  RIP.
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Re: Metal and Rock Thread
« Reply #227 on: May 22, 2016, 09:27:20 PM »
That's pretty sad, he was awesome. Drummers do some weird things to play hours along on stage.
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Re: Metal and Rock Thread
« Reply #228 on: May 22, 2016, 10:12:04 PM »
Rock music is dead.

Well, I admit that the golden age is long over, being between the late 80's and around 2006. That being said, some quality rock music is still being made. There's just no longer a center of gravity in the genre anymore to push it as a whole.
You have the wrong decades for the "golden age". Try 60s and 70s.

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Re: Metal and Rock Thread
« Reply #229 on: June 08, 2016, 09:52:04 AM »
Rock music is dead.

Well, I admit that the golden age is long over, being between the late 80's and around 2006. That being said, some quality rock music is still being made. There's just no longer a center of gravity in the genre anymore to push it as a whole.
You have the wrong decades for the "golden age". Try 60s and 70s.

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Re: Metal and Rock Thread
« Reply #230 on: July 13, 2016, 02:51:15 PM »
Has anyone here checked out the new Coal Chamber that came out last year?  It's not standard nu metal, and is very influenced by Dez's other band Devildriver:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F85KX5ViH_4

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Re: Metal and Rock Thread
« Reply #231 on: July 14, 2016, 11:34:14 AM »
Has anyone here checked out the new Coal Chamber that came out last year?  It's not standard nu metal, and is very influenced by Dez's other band Devildriver:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F85KX5ViH_4

I didn't know these guys were still around.  They still suck.
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« Reply #232 on: July 14, 2016, 01:43:27 PM »
Never got into them...but they and Life of Agony were supporting Megadeth when I saw them in 98, and it's not like Megadeth was filling venues to capacity in the late 90s, so I suppose in some small way their band/fans made it possible for me to see Friedman/Menza-era Megadeth live, so... *cyber nod of appreciation*
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Re: Metal and Rock Thread
« Reply #233 on: July 14, 2016, 02:12:26 PM »
Never got into them...but they and Life of Agony were supporting Megadeth when I saw them in 98, and it's not like Megadeth was filling venues to capacity in the late 90s, so I suppose in some small way their band/fans made it possible for me to see Friedman/Menza-era Megadeth live, so... *cyber nod of appreciation*

I liked Life of Agony to a point.

I never saw Megadeth in the late 90s but did for Rust in Peace.  Hands down, one of the best live shows ever.
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Re: Metal and Rock Thread
« Reply #234 on: July 25, 2016, 11:27:21 AM »
Has anyone here checked out the new Coal Chamber that came out last year?  It's not standard nu metal, and is very influenced by Dez's other band Devildriver:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F85KX5ViH_4

I didn't know these guys were still around.  They still suck.

LOL +1

Right up there with Crazy Town as one of those bands I almost mercifully forgot about.
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« Reply #235 on: July 25, 2016, 11:44:23 AM »
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Re: Metal and Rock Thread
« Reply #236 on: July 26, 2016, 11:39:29 PM »
I only have one thing to say about this thread:You suffer, but why?
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« Reply #237 on: July 26, 2016, 11:50:47 PM »
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Re: Metal and Rock Thread
« Reply #238 on: July 28, 2016, 11:33:52 AM »
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Re: Metal and Rock Thread
« Reply #239 on: July 28, 2016, 11:39:44 AM »
I only have one thing to say about this thread:You suffer, but why?

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Re: Metal and Rock Thread
« Reply #241 on: October 26, 2016, 09:51:58 AM »
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Re: Metal and Rock Thread
« Reply #242 on: October 26, 2016, 01:29:17 PM »
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Re: Metal and Rock Thread
« Reply #243 on: December 03, 2016, 07:01:45 AM »
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Re: Metal and Rock Thread
« Reply #244 on: December 03, 2016, 12:13:17 PM »
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They're not the same as Heathen, are they?  I liked Heathen.
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« Reply #245 on: December 03, 2016, 08:01:56 PM »
Nah, different band, this was their debut.

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Re: Metal and Rock Thread
« Reply #246 on: December 05, 2016, 02:51:34 PM »
Two albums by Suffocation: Human Waste and Breeding the Spawn.

I've forgotten how great this band is and how many miles they were ahead of pretty much any death metal act today.

So far, contrary to popular opinion, I find I really prefer the Human Waste versions of the songs over the ones on later albums. I particularly like the guitar sound they have.

I like Breeding the Spawn but it kind of leaves me cold, a similar feeling I get when I hear free jazz (e.g. Cecil Taylor)- very abstract, emotionless, though mentally intriguing.
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« Reply #247 on: December 15, 2016, 10:49:28 AM »
Gorguts- Erosion of Sanity

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Re: Metal and Rock Thread
« Reply #248 on: January 13, 2017, 05:58:08 PM »
Neo-nazi and black metal star Varg Vikernes arrested in France

Not sure which is more oxymoronic: pop punk or black metal star.

Good riddance.  I never understood the draw of that guy or his music.

He is obviously an odious person. Let me try to explain why I love his music though. For me, it reflects perfectly the mindset of a maladjusted, romantic soul that spends an inordinate time thinking about orcs and elves. The music is invariably dark, sad, anguished. It is serious. It is not cool or fun- no wanky solos, no bouncy choruses. Just repetitive, buzzsaw guitar riffs and tormented screeching. Burzum is uniquely hypnotic and, beneath the ugly exterior, extremely beautiful. The music becomes more than the sum of its very primitive parts, drawing a listener onto a different plane. I form pictures in my head, hear stories, dream awake. That's why Burzum is great, regardless of the asinine extracurricular activities and laughable statements emanating from the man.
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Re: Metal and Rock Thread
« Reply #249 on: January 16, 2017, 11:59:09 AM »
He is obviously an odious person. Let me try to explain why I love his music though. For me, it reflects perfectly the mindset of a maladjusted, romantic soul that spends an inordinate time thinking about orcs and elves. The music is invariably dark, sad, anguished. It is serious. It is not cool or fun- no wanky solos, no bouncy choruses. Just repetitive, buzzsaw guitar riffs and tormented screeching. Burzum is uniquely hypnotic and, beneath the ugly exterior, extremely beautiful. The music becomes more than the sum of its very primitive parts, drawing a listener onto a different plane. I form pictures in my head, hear stories, dream awake. That's why Burzum is great, regardless of the asinine extracurricular activities and laughable statements emanating from the man.
Yeah, I kind of see it this way. It's hypnotic, specially Filosofem, which sounds like an LSD bad vibe on a cold forest.
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Re: Metal and Rock Thread
« Reply #250 on: January 16, 2017, 01:59:22 PM »
Rock music is dead.

Undead, undead, undead.


Serious Bonus points to you! You are now speaking my genre (and related)

Sorry they are late. Had not read the thread in while.



Speaking of speaking of genres...

And back on topic, I'm following the thread, as someone who never really "got" metal.
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« Reply #251 on: January 16, 2017, 02:15:59 PM »
It's a big, diverse, and overcrowded genre, so there's probably something you would like. If you like punk then a natural point of entry is through early thrash bands like Cryptic Slaughter or DRI, where the sound (and attitude) overlaps considerably with hardcore.
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« Reply #252 on: January 16, 2017, 02:33:36 PM »
^ That was my inclination as well. Yet even with hardcore, I was always too picky. DRI (and similar) shows were a blast though. Sabbath, Motorhead, and Venom (oddly enough) were the three who emphatically made the "metal" cut.

In any case, there's a lot of stuff in, as you said, a big, diverse, and overcrowded genre. Some interesting bands though, like Obsequiae, Summoning, and such. A guitarist I played with for years was into black metal and related sub-genres. It occasionally bled over into our music, which I wasn't pleased with. That was pretty much the context I knew it from. Distance can be a good thing, and it's fun to check it out on its own merit.
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« Reply #253 on: January 16, 2017, 02:36:53 PM »
Neo-nazi and black metal star Varg Vikernes arrested in France

Not sure which is more oxymoronic: pop punk or black metal star.

Good riddance.  I never understood the draw of that guy or his music.

He is obviously an odious person. Let me try to explain why I love his music though. For me, it reflects perfectly the mindset of a maladjusted, romantic soul that spends an inordinate time thinking about orcs and elves. The music is invariably dark, sad, anguished. It is serious. It is not cool or fun- no wanky solos, no bouncy choruses. Just repetitive, buzzsaw guitar riffs and tormented screeching. Burzum is uniquely hypnotic and, beneath the ugly exterior, extremely beautiful. The music becomes more than the sum of its very primitive parts, drawing a listener onto a different plane. I form pictures in my head, hear stories, dream awake. That's why Burzum is great, regardless of the asinine extracurricular activities and laughable statements emanating from the man.

Same here.
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« Reply #254 on: January 16, 2017, 11:14:22 PM »
No, nevermind.
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« Reply #255 on: January 17, 2017, 02:17:30 PM »
^ That was my inclination as well. Yet even with hardcore, I was always too picky. DRI (and similar) shows were a blast though. Sabbath, Motorhead, and Venom (oddly enough) were the three who emphatically made the "metal" cut.

In any case, there's a lot of stuff in, as you said, a big, diverse, and overcrowded genre. Some interesting bands though, like Obsequiae, Summoning, and such. A guitarist I played with for years was into black metal and related sub-genres. It occasionally bled over into our music, which I wasn't pleased with. That was pretty much the context I knew it from. Distance can be a good thing, and it's fun to check it out on its own merit.

Nothing wrong with being picky. You kind of have to be when there are a gajillion bands, mostly mediocre.

If you like Obsequiae you might also like Sacramentum, especially their album Far Away from the Sun.
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« Reply #256 on: January 17, 2017, 03:53:41 PM »
On a slightly funny side note, I remember seeing a tweet last year from country singer-songwriter Jason Isbell about how he and Ryan Adams were listening to nonstop Burzum on their road trip together.
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Re: Metal and Rock Thread
« Reply #257 on: January 23, 2017, 10:53:03 PM »
If you like Obsequiae you might also like Sacramentum, especially their album Far Away from the Sun.

I had a listen, but it was a bit on the thrashy side of things. For some reason, I seem to prefer the "ambient" (did I get that right?) stuff a bit more. I did manage to pick up that first Obsequiae album though. The only song I don't really like is "Arrows," due to the guitar effects that sound... well, metal. I've got a ways to go, but I'm trying and enjoying. Have you heard this fan remix of the first album, Suspended in the Brume of Eos? Mastering was never my strongpoint (at all), but I think the "fan" did as he described and created an overall closer sounding feel to Arial of Vernal Tombs.

I'm still trying to figure out the differences in genre, because the written descriptions don't seem to match up that well. It's funny, I can usually identify most punk, streetpunk, hardcore (not the later stuff in the oughts that strangely called itself that) etc by era, style, and maybe geographic location quite easily. With this stuff, not so much. 

Oh, and your great explanation of Vikerness makes perfect sense to me. Maybe we shouldn't allow ourselves to be drawn to those type of odious romantic figures, but it is what it is. I didn't know much about Señor Burzum, but there are heaps of somewhat analogous figures in the broader world of subcultural music who fit the bill.
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« Reply #258 on: February 18, 2017, 02:48:16 PM »
New Metallica album - meh
New Mastodon singles - meh & ugh
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« Reply #259 on: February 18, 2017, 02:55:53 PM »
New Metallica album - meh
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« Reply #260 on: February 18, 2017, 03:09:48 PM »
Unfortunately, yeah, though I'll admit that I only listened once through (and to the singles a couple more times). I liked Death Magnetic, so it's not just an "I only like old school" thing. Though I'm sure I'll listen to it again at some point, and I've been known to on rare occasion change my mind about things...

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« Reply #261 on: February 18, 2017, 03:42:31 PM »
Just got the new Overkill, Kreator and Testament. Had a strange problem with the Overkill CD. (Yes, I still use CDs.) It seems the titles weren't embedded, or my computer's drive wouldn't read them, and I had to type them in by myself.  :)
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« Reply #262 on: February 18, 2017, 04:18:59 PM »
New Metallica album - meh
New Mastodon singles - meh & ugh
Megadeth wins grammy, but they play Master of Puppets while they walk to the stage - wtf
I'm blaming it on "the house band just learned part of one generic metal song which happened to be written by the eventual winner's arch-nemesis" and not, as Dave Mustaine tweeted, "Aw, you can't blame them for not being able to play Megadeth."
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« Reply #263 on: February 20, 2017, 02:55:23 PM »
Saw Alcest in Philly this past Saturday. Lovely show.
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Re: Metal and Rock Thread
« Reply #264 on: February 20, 2017, 03:04:13 PM »
New Metallica album - meh
New Mastodon singles - meh & ugh
Megadeth wins grammy, but they play Master of Puppets while they walk to the stage - wtf
I'm blaming it on "the house band just learned part of one generic metal song which happened to be written by the eventual winner's arch-nemesis" and not, as Dave Mustaine tweeted, "Aw, you can't blame them for not being able to play Megadeth."

That seemed like another "Jethro Tull" moment in the history of metal at the Grammys.
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Re: Metal and Rock Thread
« Reply #265 on: March 24, 2017, 07:21:58 PM »
If you like Obsequiae you might also like Sacramentum, especially their album Far Away from the Sun.

The album grew on me. Particularly the latter 2/3. I think the blast beats on the first few songs threw me off the scent. I've actually noticed that I don't like a lot of the first tracks of black metal albums, as odd as that may be.

And by the way, I'm totally overwhelmed by the size of the genre. Even delving into the heydays of various other subcultural music genres, I've never encountered so much stuff, so many bands, etc. Onward...   
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Re: Metal and Rock Thread
« Reply #266 on: June 23, 2017, 12:14:32 PM »
I've just discovered this death metal band, Desecresy, from Finland, and am loving this album. It's reminiscent of early 90's Bolt Thrower in a lot of ways, but comes across as more mystical and cosmic in the atmosphere. Hard to explain. They have a classic sound but manage to be unique.

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But it had not been in Tess's power - nor is it in anybody's power - to feel the whole truth of golden opinions while it is possible to profit by them. She - and how many more - might have ironically said to God with Saint Augustine, "Thou hast counselled a better course than thou hast permitted."
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Re: Metal and Rock Thread
« Reply #267 on: July 29, 2017, 10:09:40 PM »
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Re: Metal and Rock Thread
« Reply #268 on: Today at 10:59:58 AM »
This excellent album came out in July:



Sun of the Sleepless is the solo project of Markus Stock AKA Ulf Theodor Schwadorf, whom some of you might know as a member of Empyrium and the Vision Bleak. While the musical style varies between his bands, they all have a heavily gothic/ romantic atmosphere. So it is no surprise that this album sounds like something Keats, Shelley, and Goethe would make together if they were a black metal band. As the title suggests, the awe of nature is the dominant theme, with folkloric allusions as well. Musically it is a loving and creative tribute to the classic 90's bands like Darkthrone and Emperor, infused with Schwadorf's acoustic breaks and melancholic chants. Schwadorf as also collaborated with the French "blackgaze" bands Alcest and Les Discrets and hints of it rubbing off on him pop up here and there. Highly recommended! 
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But it had not been in Tess's power - nor is it in anybody's power - to feel the whole truth of golden opinions while it is possible to profit by them. She - and how many more - might have ironically said to God with Saint Augustine, "Thou hast counselled a better course than thou hast permitted."
Thomas Hardy, Tess of the D'Urbervilles