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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #6255 on: December 13, 2019, 12:51:30 PM »
Yeah, you WOULD take a tour of the Vatican.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #6256 on: December 15, 2019, 04:38:12 PM »

I picked this up at Barnes & Noble yesterday, thinking it might be of interest to some friends and family. I thought about picking up a couple copies but I thought maybe I would take a crack at it myself first. I'm glad I did, too, because it doesn't present the topic in a way that is favorable toward the church, imho.

Basically his history is embellished like a children's book, and then it goes into the history of his relics and the many legends of St. Nick, basically makes it all sound like a lot of superstition. I plan to return it.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #6258 on: January 16, 2020, 08:25:55 AM »


I've waited months for this to hit the shelves. Skimming through the PDF while waiting for my hard copy to ship, and hoo boy, does it need all the content warnings it comes with. Even for us old-timers who have read and re-read through both iterations of the Book of Madness, this is next-level messed up.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #6259 on: January 16, 2020, 01:19:20 PM »
Penguin Highway by Tomihiko Morimi. Saw the animated film and absolutely loved, and had to read the original novel. It's also the same person as Tatami Galaxy so I definitely felt confident it was going to be worth the purchase.


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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #6260 on: January 30, 2020, 10:32:32 PM »
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #6261 on: February 01, 2020, 08:59:40 AM »
Our Thoughts Determine Our Lives: The Life and Teachings of Elder Thaddeus of Vitovnica

I have a feeling I'm going to struggle with this one.  I tried reading it about 4 years ago, but it literally made no sense half the time.  That is typically my clue that I'm not ready to read something.  :laugh:  We'll see how it goes this time, but I think it's going to hurt.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #6262 on: February 01, 2020, 11:27:54 PM »
Our Thoughts Determine Our Lives: The Life and Teachings of Elder Thaddeus of Vitovnica

I have a feeling I'm going to struggle with this one.  I tried reading it about 4 years ago, but it literally made no sense half the time.  That is typically my clue that I'm not ready to read something.  :laugh:  We'll see how it goes this time, but I think it's going to hurt.

It's definitely a book to take a few pages at a time.  I've had my copy for about 3 years and still haven't finished it.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #6263 on: February 01, 2020, 11:38:36 PM »
Our Thoughts Determine Our Lives: The Life and Teachings of Elder Thaddeus of Vitovnica

I have a feeling I'm going to struggle with this one.  I tried reading it about 4 years ago, but it literally made no sense half the time.  That is typically my clue that I'm not ready to read something.  :laugh:  We'll see how it goes this time, but I think it's going to hurt.

It's definitely a book to take a few pages at a time.  I've had my copy for about 3 years and still haven't finished it.
The women's group of my diocese has chosen it for this year's book club.  So...I have a year.  If I want to be a team player anyway.  :angel:
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #6264 on: February 02, 2020, 11:58:25 PM »
Our Thoughts Determine Our Lives: The Life and Teachings of Elder Thaddeus of Vitovnica

I have a feeling I'm going to struggle with this one.  I tried reading it about 4 years ago, but it literally made no sense half the time.  That is typically my clue that I'm not ready to read something.  :laugh:  We'll see how it goes this time, but I think it's going to hurt.

It's definitely a book to take a few pages at a time.  I've had my copy for about 3 years and still haven't finished it.

Same, bro.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #6265 on: February 03, 2020, 12:44:58 AM »
Our Thoughts Determine Our Lives: The Life and Teachings of Elder Thaddeus of Vitovnica

I have a feeling I'm going to struggle with this one.  I tried reading it about 4 years ago, but it literally made no sense half the time.  That is typically my clue that I'm not ready to read something.  :laugh:  We'll see how it goes this time, but I think it's going to hurt.

It's definitely a book to take a few pages at a time.  I've had my copy for about 3 years and still haven't finished it.

Same, bro.

Next time I go to NYC, let's have an impromptu OCnet Book Club and read a paragraph together.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #6266 on: February 03, 2020, 02:58:29 PM »
Our Thoughts Determine Our Lives: The Life and Teachings of Elder Thaddeus of Vitovnica

I have a feeling I'm going to struggle with this one.  I tried reading it about 4 years ago, but it literally made no sense half the time.  That is typically my clue that I'm not ready to read something.  :laugh:  We'll see how it goes this time, but I think it's going to hurt.

It's definitely a book to take a few pages at a time.  I've had my copy for about 3 years and still haven't finished it.

Same, bro.

Next time I go to NYC, let's have an impromptu OCnet Book Club and read a paragraph together.

Next time?  If there was a first time and you never told me, that was the last time!  >:(
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #6267 on: February 03, 2020, 03:07:37 PM »
Our Thoughts Determine Our Lives: The Life and Teachings of Elder Thaddeus of Vitovnica

I have a feeling I'm going to struggle with this one.  I tried reading it about 4 years ago, but it literally made no sense half the time.  That is typically my clue that I'm not ready to read something.  :laugh:  We'll see how it goes this time, but I think it's going to hurt.

It's definitely a book to take a few pages at a time.  I've had my copy for about 3 years and still haven't finished it.

Same, bro.

Next time I go to NYC, let's have an impromptu OCnet Book Club and read a paragraph together.

Next time?  If there was a first time and you never told me, that was the last time!  >:(

Last time I was in NYC, I didn't know you existed.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #6268 on: February 03, 2020, 03:52:33 PM »
Our Thoughts Determine Our Lives: The Life and Teachings of Elder Thaddeus of Vitovnica

I have a feeling I'm going to struggle with this one.  I tried reading it about 4 years ago, but it literally made no sense half the time.  That is typically my clue that I'm not ready to read something.  :laugh:  We'll see how it goes this time, but I think it's going to hurt.

It's definitely a book to take a few pages at a time.  I've had my copy for about 3 years and still haven't finished it.

To be honest, I had some trouble seeing it as part of Orthodox teaching when I read it. If I may dare say it, I would have thought it some new age Christian syncretism if not for the author and title. The idea that our thoughts and ideas can "influence" things around us, seem new agey to me.
It's one thing to say that being a temple of the Holy Spirit can influence those around us, as proximity to holiness can influence you, and likewise if you are subject to demons. But this book seems to be saying something else, that our very thoughts themselves have an energy so to speak on the world. What are your thoughts from what you have read so far?

I hope that this is just a misunderstanding on my part.

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #6269 on: February 03, 2020, 11:43:51 PM »
What comes out of you is what defiles you. Murders, rapes, and other sins are conceived in your brain and birthed into the world. How could your thoughts not have external effects?

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #6270 on: February 05, 2020, 12:44:10 AM »
Our Thoughts Determine Our Lives: The Life and Teachings of Elder Thaddeus of Vitovnica

I have a feeling I'm going to struggle with this one.  I tried reading it about 4 years ago, but it literally made no sense half the time.  That is typically my clue that I'm not ready to read something.  :laugh:  We'll see how it goes this time, but I think it's going to hurt.

It's definitely a book to take a few pages at a time.  I've had my copy for about 3 years and still haven't finished it.

Same, bro.

Next time I go to NYC, let's have an impromptu OCnet Book Club and read a paragraph together.

Next time?  If there was a first time and you never told me, that was the last time!  >:(

Last time I was in NYC, I didn't know you existed.

Sounds like a happier time in your life.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #6271 on: February 05, 2020, 09:15:41 AM »
Our Thoughts Determine Our Lives: The Life and Teachings of Elder Thaddeus of Vitovnica

I have a feeling I'm going to struggle with this one.  I tried reading it about 4 years ago, but it literally made no sense half the time.  That is typically my clue that I'm not ready to read something.  :laugh:  We'll see how it goes this time, but I think it's going to hurt.

It's definitely a book to take a few pages at a time.  I've had my copy for about 3 years and still haven't finished it.

Same, bro.

Next time I go to NYC, let's have an impromptu OCnet Book Club and read a paragraph together.

Next time?  If there was a first time and you never told me, that was the last time!  >:(

Last time I was in NYC, I didn't know you existed.

Sounds like a happier time in your life.

I was 12, so yeah.
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #6272 on: February 05, 2020, 09:32:21 AM »
Regarding Our Thoughts Determine Our Lives:

Sort of a chicken and egg thing. Our thoughts definitely effect our lives, but our lives also effect our thoughts. I haven't read the book, but the title gives me pause. What about people who suffer from mental illnesses beyond their control? They simply cannot control their thoughts. "Mind over matter" is nice in theory, but in reality it's often impossible. I would break it down like this:

While we cannot always control our thoughts, we can control our actions.

Positive and righteous actions lead to the cultivation of positive and righteous thoughts.

The more we cultivate positive and righteous thoughts, the easier it will be to engage in positive and righteous actions.

And if we struggle with compulsive thoughts or behaviors beyond our control, then by all means we need to seek sound spiritual and psychological help.

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #6273 on: February 10, 2020, 02:00:14 PM »


Reading this together with the young one, for his English class (gothic literature module).
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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #6275 on: February 16, 2020, 05:55:41 PM »
Is any of the above Orthodox?  I have no idea, so there’s that.

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #6276 on: February 16, 2020, 07:57:14 PM »
An article from The Atlantic about families.  Interesting, at least.

Thanks for the link.  Great article.
This is interesting about the class divide:
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Among the highly educated, family patterns are almost as stable as they were in the 1950s; among the less fortunate, family life is often utter chaos. There’s a reason for that divide: Affluent people have the resources to effectively buy extended family, in order to shore themselves up. Think of all the child-rearing labor affluent parents now buy that used to be done by extended kin: babysitting, professional child care, tutoring, coaching, therapy, expensive after-school programs. (For that matter, think of how the affluent can hire therapists and life coaches for themselves, as replacement for kin or close friends.) These expensive tools and services not only support children’s development and help prepare them to compete in the meritocracy; by reducing stress and time commitments for parents, they preserve the amity of marriage. Affluent conservatives often pat themselves on the back for having stable nuclear families. They preach that everybody else should build stable families too. But then they ignore one of the main reasons their own families are stable: They can afford to purchase the support that extended family used to provide—and that the people they preach at, further down the income scale, cannot.

I could not survive without the help and emotional support of my mother and grandmother - all the help and advice about childcare and cooking.  But I am lucky enough to live really close to my parents and grandparents.  Plus both my mother and grandmother are both retired-have the time, energy to help.  My mother-in-law is younger and still working which is common for a lot of that generation.

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Re: What is everyone reading?
« Reply #6277 on: February 16, 2020, 09:44:02 PM »
An article from The Atlantic about families.  Interesting, at least.

Thanks for the link.  Great article.
This is interesting about the class divide:
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Among the highly educated, family patterns are almost as stable as they were in the 1950s; among the less fortunate, family life is often utter chaos. There’s a reason for that divide: Affluent people have the resources to effectively buy extended family, in order to shore themselves up. Think of all the child-rearing labor affluent parents now buy that used to be done by extended kin: babysitting, professional child care, tutoring, coaching, therapy, expensive after-school programs. (For that matter, think of how the affluent can hire therapists and life coaches for themselves, as replacement for kin or close friends.) These expensive tools and services not only support children’s development and help prepare them to compete in the meritocracy; by reducing stress and time commitments for parents, they preserve the amity of marriage. Affluent conservatives often pat themselves on the back for having stable nuclear families. They preach that everybody else should build stable families too. But then they ignore one of the main reasons their own families are stable: They can afford to purchase the support that extended family used to provide—and that the people they preach at, further down the income scale, cannot.

I could not survive without the help and emotional support of my mother and grandmother - all the help and advice about childcare and cooking.  But I am lucky enough to live really close to my parents and grandparents.  Plus both my mother and grandmother are both retired-have the time, energy to help.  My mother-in-law is younger and still working which is common for a lot of that generation.
You're welcome!  I liked the part discussing forged families; that's what it will come down to for me, I think.  I also thought a bit about Orthodoxy, parish life, and monasticism as I read this, and how at its best, it answers that need for a larger circle of connections.
Is any of the above Orthodox?  I have no idea, so there’s that.

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