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Offline Jerempire

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Saddam Hussein's family history Christians?
« on: September 04, 2011, 11:33:26 PM »
I was just reading a Road to Emmanus Journal, Vol. X, No. 4 (#39), where they were interviewing Dr. George Bebawi and he mentioned that
" Saddam's family was originally Christian—they only converted to Islam fifty years ago. Tikrit, where Saddaam was from, was a flourishing Christian city then." I been trying to verify this by checking other sources, but it is not mentioned anywhere else. Anybody else know anything about this?
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Re: Saddam Hussein's family history Christians?
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2011, 02:14:51 AM »
I'm not overly familiar with Tikrit's history, but Tariq Aziz and other members of the Ba'ath Party (including many from that north-central corridor) are/were Christian.  Nothing like Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, or even Jordan, but Iraq maintained many sizable Christian communities until very recently.
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Re: Saddam Hussein's family history Christians?
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2011, 02:54:48 AM »
well, that certainly explains alot...lol j/k...kind of ;)

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Re: Saddam Hussein's family history Christians?
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2011, 02:56:40 AM »
No, Saddam's family had tribal connections, and they weren't Christian tribes.
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Re: Saddam Hussein's family history Christians?
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2011, 03:09:09 AM »
I have friends from Iraq who say his nanny was Christian.  Of course I can't verify it.  He was very tolerant toward Christians though, so one wonders what in his background would have made him that way.

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Re: Saddam Hussein's family history Christians?
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2011, 07:53:23 AM »
Interesting speculation. I understand he had a particular fondness for respites at a Greek Orthodox monastery.

At the least Christians were far better off than now.
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Re: Saddam Hussein's family history Christians?
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2011, 09:45:50 AM »
ya I was doing a bit more research and Tikrit did have a large christian monastery a thousand years ago. But Dr. George Bebawi ( PHD) is a celebrated church historian and Patristics scholar, I would doubt he would make a claim like that without some good evidence.
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Re: Saddam Hussein's family history Christians?
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2011, 03:34:56 PM »
ya I was doing a bit more research and Tikrit did have a large christian monastery a thousand years ago. But Dr. George Bebawi ( PHD) is a celebrated church historian and Patristics scholar, I would doubt he would make a claim like that without some good evidence.

IIRC, my source was a National Geographic article. I'll check.

Saddam's retreat was still active (with one monk, I think).


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Re: Saddam Hussein's family history Christians?
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2011, 09:57:25 PM »
his wife (or was it mistress ?) was greek
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Re: Saddam Hussein's family history Christians?
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2014, 10:27:49 PM »
Apparently Saddam was given the key to the city of Detroit in 1980 for donating hundreds of thousands of dollars to a local Chaldean Church:


http://www.omg-facts.com/Celebs/Saddam-Hussein-was-given-the-key-to-the/58803

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Re: Saddam Hussein's family history Christians?
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2014, 11:01:19 PM »
Apparently Saddam was given the key to the city of Detroit in 1980 for donating hundreds of thousands of dollars to a local Chaldean Church:

LOL!

I always had a soft spot for him.
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Re: Saddam Hussein's family history Christians?
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2014, 11:52:35 AM »
Apparently Saddam was given the key to the city of Detroit in 1980 for donating hundreds of thousands of dollars to a local Chaldean Church:

LOL!

I always had a soft spot for him.
Me too, to a certain extent. All his atrocities aside, he at least kept Iraq together. He was the lesser of two great evils, IMHO, especially for Iraq's Christians.

Now that he's gone the Iraqi military is in disarray, the economy in shambles, national security nonexistent, the Christians practically exterminated, and the whole country is in a constant of infighting and civil war.

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Re: Saddam Hussein's family history Christians?
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2014, 12:36:49 PM »
Interesting speculation. I understand he had a particular fondness for respites at a Greek Orthodox monastery.
If you could provide more information about this I would appreciate it.
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Re: Saddam Hussein's family history Christians?
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2014, 06:36:30 PM »
Interesting speculation. I understand he had a particular fondness for respites at a Greek Orthodox monastery.
If you could provide more information about this I would appreciate it.

It has been a long time, but as I recall I did not read this on the Internet but learned of this (I think) on a PBS piece about Saddam's palaces and retreats. At the time Hussein frequented the monastery only a single Greek Orthodox monk resided there. Maybe we can dig up something more.
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Re: Saddam Hussein's family history Christians?
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2014, 07:05:52 PM »
Interesting speculation. I understand he had a particular fondness for respites at a Greek Orthodox monastery.
If you could provide more information about this I would appreciate it.

It has been a long time, but as I recall I did not read this on the Internet but learned of this (I think) on a PBS piece about Saddam's palaces and retreats. At the time Hussein frequented the monastery only a single Greek Orthodox monk resided there. Maybe we can dig up something more.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1314&dat=20030410&id=WGVWAAAAIBAJ&sjid=n_IDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5303,8383709

Interesting read. Thanks for sparking my interest Αριστοκλής!