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« on: July 19, 2004, 10:45:24 AM »

Dear friends,

Our Church (Coptic) is putting on a play by some of our children and youth and one of the scenes will be about St. Thomas preaching in India.  The woman is writing the script has asked me for some patristic resources that she could draw from for St. Thomas' dilogue with the Indian people.  Basically, what "might" St. Thomas have said to explain the truth of Christianity to the Indian people.  I was thinking of some excerpts from St. Irenaeus' "Preaching of the Apostles".  But I thought maybe the Indian Orthodox could help me...are there any resources you could recommend? Unfortunately I need to get back to her by mid-week so I am looking for things on-line if possible.

Thanks!

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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2004, 07:31:40 PM »

The Acts of Thomas

http://wesley.nnu.edu/noncanon/acts/actthom.htm
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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2004, 07:34:40 PM »

There are some parts of this that may not be suitable for your purposes (it is, after all, NT apocrypha).  However, there are things in this document that are part of the tradition, and I've seen them used in dramatisations of the missionary activity of Saint Thomas in India.  I hope you will find this useful.
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2004, 07:52:56 PM »

Dear Raouf,   Check the Coptic Synaxarium, there is description about Apostle Thomas.  It is believed that Apostle Thomas distributed the money he received from the King to the poor.  It is believed that the concept of wandering monks originated from Apostle Thomas, he himself being the Apostle who travelled most widely.

There is also a DVD movie on the works of Apostle Thomas in India, almost surely with English subtitles.

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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2004, 07:54:29 PM »

I went to St. Thomas' tomb when I was in Madras India. It is really cool. It is under the alter in a cave dug out of the rock.
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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2004, 08:01:49 PM »

The Twenty-Sixth Day of the Blessed Month of Bashans

Martyrdom of St.Thomas, the Apostle On this day St. Thomas the apostle was martyred. He was born in Galilee, and the Lord chose him among the twelve disciples (Mathew 10:3). When the Lord wanted to go to raise Lazarus from the dead, Thomas said to the other disciples: " (John 11:16). He also asked the Lord at the supper: " (John 14:5-6). When the Lord Christ appeared to the disciples after the resurrection, and said to them "Receive the Holy Spirit", Thomas was absent. On his return, the disciples told him, "We have seen the Lord." He said to them: " (John 20:19-29). After the outpouring of the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost in the Upper room in Zion, the apostles dispersed everywhere to preach the Gospel, Thomas went to India. He worked there as a slave at one of the friends of the king, whose name was Lukios, who brought him to the king who inquired about his profession. Thomas said: "I am builder, carpenter and a physician. He preached in his master's palace, and Lukios' wife believed and all his household. The king asked him about his achievements, and he said: "The palaces that I built were the souls that have become the temples of the King of Glory; the carpentry that I did was the Gospel that removes the thorns of sin; and the medicines I practiced are the Holy Mysteries which heal the poison of the evil one. The king became angry and tortured him, and bound him among four poles, cut off his skin and rubbed his wounds with salt and lime. The apostle Thomas endured the pains. Lukios' wife saw him suffering, and she fell from the window and died. Lukios came to him and said: "If you raise my wife from the dead, I believe in your God." Thomas went to the room where the dead body was, and said: "Arsabona (Arsonia), rise up in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ." She rose instantly and bowed to the Saint. When her husband saw that, he believed and many more with him from the people of the city, and Thomas baptized them. Once the sea drove a huge tree to the shore that no one could lift it up. St. Thomas asked the king for permission to lift it up and to use its wood in building a church. He got the permission, he made the sign of the cross, and he raised it and later he built the church, to which he ordained a bishop and priests. St. Thomas left and went to a city called "Kantoura" (Kontaria), where he found an old man weeping bitterly because the king killed his six children. The Saint prayed over them, and the Lord raised them up. The idol priests were angry, and wanted to stone him. The first raised a stone to throw it at him, and his hand was paralyzed. The Saint prayed over his hand, he was healed instantly, and all the idol priests believed in the Lord Christ. Then St. Thomas went to the city of "Parkenas" and other cities, where he preached in the Name of Jesus Christ. The king heard about him, and he put him in prison. When he found out that he was teaching the prisoners the way of God, he tortured him, and at last he cut his head off, and he received the crown of martyrdom. He was buried in "Melibar", then his body was relocated to El-Raha. May His prayers be with us and Glory be to our God forever. Amen.
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Please read also the following, which is a traditional Indian work called 'Thoma Parvam'.

http://www.acns.com/~mm9n/Malankara/parvom.htm

Traditional connection of early Indian Church with Egypt includes Merchants of Alexandria, Monk Cosmas from Alexandria, and St. Pantaenus of the School of Alexandrian Church.

Thank you,
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