It appears I missed a lot here, after spending too much time on it.
I tried to read it all, and then got lost in the midst of a couple of side arguments, inside jokes, etc.
re: Orthonorm, I think it's fairly clear where we're diverging, and not really worth digging into. Again, I apologize for the comment I mentioned earlier, and wish to move forward from any resentment I held towards you for what I perceived as personal attacks. As I've said in other discussions, I come here with a specific purpose, and get put off by a certain approach, which is your right to take whether I like it or not.
I'm confused by the Latin comment, though, it went over my head...I don't know that I've ever used a Latin expression on this site. Maybe my name was a typo? Just curious...
Re:Schultz, I get your point, and not having lingered around this forum long enough, I had not had any exposure to this issue being discussed here, prior to this discussion. I understand where your frustration, and that of others, may arise from.
What I hold on to, is that I agree 100% which each of these points:
A) There are many, many other sins as grave, or more so, than homosexuality.
B) Plenty of these are just as relevant to modern life, and valuable as discussion pieces in te public sphere and here on the forum.
C) These sins often get overlooked, while the gay issue gets singled out. It gets boring.
D) Homosexuals are not intrinsically evil, or worse than any other brand of sinner.
And even so, I don't think it's valuable to come down on people for speaking badly about homosexuality, as it is still a sin, and certainly one that is at the forefront of the "culture wars", call them what you will.
I think that a discussion on how this sin is best addressed, i.e., without a hateful, dismissive approach, and how the church can reach out to sinners of this sort in a realistic way would be more fruitful.