A calm, but nominalistic, lukewarm Orthodox is still wrong when his/her beliefs and statements contradict Orthodox teachings...
Nominal, lukewarm Orthodox don't bother to hang around Orthodox message boards and advertise their... lukewarmth. Augustin's "Hey everyone, look at me not caring!" posturing is something else. I don't think there's a name for it.
Sorry guys, but this incredibly unfair, inaccurate, and unfortunate.
Yeah, we know what internetz is for what you are describing is an ugly description of someone.
Augustin, from my time here, rarely posts and when he does, it is well place one-liners tinged with irony. Anyone who doesn't get the joke, well it is too bad, cause it is funny and thought provoking. But the funny being more important.
But to accuse him of attention ****ing is unfounded.
In this thread, he has put forth more than just the Old World is right and you converts are crazy argument.
He, unlike most, has brought the issue to the personal level, even giving examples of anecdotes where folks were harmed by behavior he found objectionable.
In return, he gets at best arguments . . . wait for it . . .
"arguments" that are supposedly "Western".
His concerns are more pastoral and (I'll break out a big word for all you people using Latin and "logic" (Scholastic much?)) phenomenological.
He is highlighting the lived reality of the and consequences of the OBVIOUS focus, shown on this board in spades, of the near obsession with the pelvic position in America and how it has trumped any discussion about nearly another other "sin" and are the only long winding threads on anything else are why RCs and Protestants are bad.
He is curt. Abrasive. And correct.
In return, he gets the worst of internetz. It is really disappointing.
With the ultimate sign of losing: he is an attention ****.
When you start creating threads about yourself, see mine. You call someone that. You can call me that. Of course it is ironicals, but I've come to realize the silent majority get it, mosta loud minority don't.
He has raised numerous points which have merit and have yet to be addressed on the level of Christian charity.
Just some really poor critiques based on the logic of the schoolyard: two wrong don't make a right.
Or the "logic" of the A = B = C, thus A = C and whatever Scholastic conclusions follows from this "Western" non-phenomenological approach to harm done to real humans.
Then, oh he just wants attention, which is taking it to the man (ad hominem Jim, since you didn't understand it without the fancy Latin).
So again, if you are going to attack someone's perceived motives and "personality", which frankly the data doesn't bare out, you are reaching for straws.
Go back to his points. And truly ask yourself, if he just attention ****ing. This seems to me to be a subject he cares for.
He obviously can fight his own battles as he making nearly everyone twist in the wind on this one, but I don't care for piling on unfounded, irrelevant if it they were true, accusations.
The very thing he gets criticized for and obviously is not doing is used in exasperation by his opponents to write him off.
Well I learned something here. About another source of the sayings of the Desert Fathers, which might differ subtly from the texts I am working from.
Since that is majority of what I read outside of Scripture regarding Orthodoxy that is of great interest to me.
Attention ****ing indeed.