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As for the thread itself - I know better than to try to respond to it point-by-point. It's an inherent "troll" thread with people who have no intention of defending their claims. So why bother?  Well, for once you're correct (don't let it go to your head, it's just once). While I'm willing to spend hours looking through the Bible, Church Fathers, etc. coming up with posts for this site, with most of the content frankly having little to no practical application or benefit for me, nonetheless I had no intentions of responding to some of the posts in this thread. Some problems would be too frustrating to try to fix, some problems are obviously dumb arguments to begin with, and yet other problems would require that someone change a major part of their world view before they admitted that they were wrong. Though now that I think about it, 90% of the arguments are probably a bit of all three. A priest (who was actually a practicing psychologist in his secular life) once told me that I don't suffer fools gladly. He was to a large extent right. Though I've learned to keep my mouth shut a lot of the time. Btw, this thread was originally meant to be light hearted. Hence the winking emoticon as part of the Message Icon. There was also the "Ahh, now I feel better" thing. So much for that!  Many seemed not to pick up on it's tone, and tried to turn it into a debate. Which I guess I should have expected; and yet, as I said earlier, is a bit depressing. |
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As for the thread itself - I know better than to try to respond to it point-by-point. It's an inherent "troll" thread with people who have no intention of defending their claims. So why bother? Well, for once you're correct (don't let it go to your head, it's just once). While I'm willing to spend hours looking through the Bible, Church Fathers, etc. coming up with posts for this site, with most of the content frankly having little to no practical application or benefit for me, nonetheless I had no intentions of responding to some of the posts in this thread. Some problems would be too frustrating to try to fix, some problems are obviously dumb arguments to begin with, and yet other problems would require that someone change a major part of their world view before they admitted that they were wrong. Though now that I think about it, 90% of the arguments are probably a bit of all three. A priest (who was actually a practicing psychologist in his secular life) once told me that I don't suffer fools gladly. He was to a large extent right. Though I've learned to keep my mouth shut a lot of the time. Btw, this thread was originally meant to be light hearted. Hence the winking emoticon as part of the Message Icon. There was also the "Ahh, now I feel better" thing. So much for that! Many seemed not to pick up on it's tone, and tried to turn it into a debate. Which I guess I should have expected; and yet, as I said earlier, is a bit depressing. Considering your flirtations with atheism I took it seriously. My apologies. |
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Many seemed not to pick up on it's tone, and tried to turn it into a debate. Which I guess I should have expected; and yet, as I said earlier, is a bit depressing.
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« Reply #49 on: August 11, 2011, 11:37:38 PM » |
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Did you seriously just quote yourself as proof?
This is surprising. //:=) Would wikipedia be better? Let's check together, never thought to before on such a silly subject: Commonly, what is meant is a relatively gentle inside joke by veteran users, presenting questions or topics that had been so overdone that only a new user would respond to them earnestly. For example, a veteran of the group might make a post on the common misconception that glass flows over time. Long-time readers would both recognize the poster's name and know that the topic had been discussed a lot, but new subscribers to the group would not realize, and would thus respond. These types of trolls served as a practice to identify group insiders. This definition of trolling, considerably narrower than the modern understanding of the term, was considered a positive contribution http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)#Early_history |
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I've never seen troll defined as something positive.
Cause you are a n00b. Share your cred. Um, no. I've been on boards and in chat rooms for at least 16 years. How would you even know? The only people who think trolling is positive are, of course, trolls. 16 years . . . let's do the math, it's like 2011? 2011 - 16 ------ 1995 n00b |
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We even had different names for people. All kindsa shibboleths depending on the group.
Good times. Then AOL happened and all that home access garbage for the everyman, then Netscape, then worse dejanews, then even worser: google groups.
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Considering your flirtations with atheism I took it seriously. My apologies.
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Considering your flirtations with atheism I took it seriously. My apologies.
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Considering your flirtations with atheism I took it seriously. My apologies.
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LOVE THAT SONG.
I'm going to start quoting music I know. My friends are amazed at what I don't know or have even heard of at karaoke. Oh wah, you're so old, I'm a hipster, I know, I know.  And a lot of it depends on upbringing. My father and mother blasted Eurodance all throughout my childhood. They have videos of me dancing to the stuff. I know a lot of random music but I fail whenever I pick a Beatles song on the Cranium Humdingers category. I can only hum the verse line. No one would want to be on my team for that part, but I knock out the Gnilleps every single time. |
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« Reply #60 on: August 11, 2011, 11:57:33 PM » |
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As for the thread itself - I know better than to try to respond to it point-by-point. It's an inherent "troll" thread with people who have no intention of defending their claims. So why bother? Well, for once you're correct (don't let it go to your head, it's just once). While I'm willing to spend hours looking through the Bible, Church Fathers, etc. coming up with posts for this site, with most of the content frankly having little to no practical application or benefit for me, nonetheless I had no intentions of responding to some of the posts in this thread. Some problems would be too frustrating to try to fix, some problems are obviously dumb arguments to begin with, and yet other problems would require that someone change a major part of their world view before they admitted that they were wrong. Though now that I think about it, 90% of the arguments are probably a bit of all three. A priest (who was actually a practicing psychologist in his secular life) once told me that I don't suffer fools gladly. He was to a large extent right. Though I've learned to keep my mouth shut a lot of the time. Btw, this thread was originally meant to be light hearted. Hence the winking emoticon as part of the Message Icon. There was also the "Ahh, now I feel better" thing. So much for that! Many seemed not to pick up on it's tone, and tried to turn it into a debate. Which I guess I should have expected; and yet, as I said earlier, is a bit depressing. Sorry  I honestly thought it was a challenging notion, of how to prevent making the same argumentative mistakes, with a little bit of a joke in it (hence the dbag part) |
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« Reply #61 on: August 11, 2011, 11:58:34 PM » |
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I forgot the best part: WHOA-O If you wanna leave, I won't beg you to stay. And if you go, darling, maybe it's better that way. I'm gonna be strong, I'm gonna be fine, don't worry about this heart of mine. (Genius stuff, amirite?) |
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LOVE THAT SONG.
I'm going to start quoting music I know. My friends are amazed at what I don't know or have even heard of at karaoke. Oh wah, you're so old, I'm a hipster, I know, I know. And a lot of it depends on upbringing. My father and mother blasted Eurodance all throughout my childhood. They have videos of me dancing to the stuff. I know a lot of random music but I fail whenever I pick a Beatles song on the Cranium Humdingers category. I can only hum the verse line. No one would want to be on my team for that part, but I knock out the Gnilleps every single time. I mean, I don't know hardly any of the stuff, I ain't talking marginal stuff. All white people music. The white people music I know comes from films where the music is just pitch perfect for the scene (every film by PT Anderson for example), hence some of my odd knowledges. Or places I work and had to listen to over and over without knowing who sang the stuff. Or friends or past loves where there are sentimental attachments. |
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I forgot the best part: WHOA-O If you wanna leave, I won't beg you to stay. And if you go, darling, maybe it's better that way. I'm gonna be strong, I'm gonna be fine, don't worry about this heart of mine. (Genius stuff, amirite?) I gotta start writing lyrics . . . |
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Whatever was ostensibly popular, like everyone in the bar knows and I am clueless. Orthonorm, bro, are you some kind of self-loathing hipster? Ummm they all cheer and love the schlocky music in an ironic manner. I grew around black and hicks. |
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Atheists can be good, but they can never really have a standard (that isn't arbitrary) by which to judge their own goodness.
Not for this to descend into unhappy, unfun, but Christians have been really steady and in agrement in their morals over the millennia. lulz. If you want to argue about this, not only do I have proof but also a place where you do it: http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/I didn't say they were. Rather, I said that Atheists can have no objective standard by which to judge what is or isn't good, certainly there are many Christians like this as well. |
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Whatever was ostensibly popular, like everyone in the bar knows and I am clueless. Orthonorm, bro, are you some kind of self-loathing hipster? Ummm they all cheer and love the schlocky music in an ironic manner. I grew around black and hicks. You know, my buddy has some bluegrass rap music. |
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*, brilliant. You are getting them to come and say there own crazy things in earnest.
Yeah, but don't you kinda find it depressing? I mean, these aren't dumb people here, and yet... And yet what? I hope you are brilliantly playing the straight man here , but I fear you are not. (I swear no innuendo about RCs there. Seriously.) |
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What's the official, 73et $p34k, better-than-crack, word for troll?
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« Reply #76 on: August 12, 2011, 03:47:13 PM » |
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I forgot the best part: WHOA-O If you wanna leave, I won't beg you to stay. And if you go, darling, maybe it's better that way. I'm gonna be strong, I'm gonna be fine, don't worry about this heart of mine. (Genius stuff, amirite?) All that she wants is another baby...eeyyo A friend of mine in high school was a huge Ace of Base fan which is funny because he was such a stan of Tupac. |
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