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« on: August 22, 2011, 03:29:05 PM »

The humble atheist? More humble than an agnostic?

"Jillette tells NPR's Neal Conan that critics of atheism often assume non-believers are arrogant people, but that's not necessarily true. You may not have to be brave or smart to be an atheist, Jillette says, but you do have to be humble. Atheists don't have all the answers, he writes, but they do have the humility to admit they don't know how the world was created, where humans came from or many of life's other mysteries."
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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2011, 03:31:09 PM »

"they do have the humility to admit they don't know how the world was created, where humans came from or many of life's other mysteries."
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2011, 03:48:48 PM »

He's one of the types that would love to have religion be abolished from the planet.

I remember how awful his segment on the Bible on Bull****! was, to use the self-refuting skeptic Michael Shermer was eyeroll worthy. I did enjoy the commentary of the other fellow on that show, don't know his name, who tried to support the positive and see certain things in the Bible in a different light. He was the fairest out of them all.
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2011, 03:53:30 PM »

The humble atheist? More humble than an agnostic?

"Jillette tells NPR's Neal Conan that critics of atheism often assume non-believers are arrogant people, but that's not necessarily true. You may not have to be brave or smart to be an atheist, Jillette says, but you do have to be humble. Atheists don't have all the answers, he writes, but they do have the humility to admit they don't know how the world was created, where humans came from or many of life's other mysteries."
They don't know, but they known there is no intellegent design behind it.
Yeah, that's humble.
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2011, 05:03:13 PM »

Like most, he is a poseur.
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2011, 05:16:02 PM »

Like most, he is a poseur.

That's awesome.  I hadn't called anyone a poser since High School, then a week ago out of nowhere I called someone that (I think it was a fellow motorist).  This word should make a comeback.

As for the OP, I think this is just a sign of the times.  We are led by clowns and our intellectuals are magicians.  In the end they are all a pack of posers.
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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2011, 07:06:25 PM »

I read an interview with him about this book (I think also NPR). He was quite clear that in spite of his lack of belief in it, he thinks Christians have done a lot of good for the world, he even went so far to separate the Christians from the faux-Christians (groups like Westboro Baptist Church).

Also keep in mind that when he is on his TV show, he's a performer. Humble performers are boring. Just imagine his show if it was called "I humbly disagree", and after examining the issues he'd just say "Yeah I don't think it's true, but whatever". I guarantee you a 0 in the ratings.
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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2011, 08:43:03 PM »

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Also keep in mind that when he is on his TV show, he's a performer. Humble performers are boring. Just imagine his show if it was called "I humbly disagree", and after examining the issues he'd just say "Yeah I don't think it's true, but whatever". I guarantee you a 0 in the ratings.
That's a good point.
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2011, 10:34:55 PM »

I actually like the man.  I certainly disagree with him on several issues, but by and large he isn't bad.  He tends to be right, and he has nailed the process for bringing information forth in an entertaining way.
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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2011, 10:42:02 PM »

I actually like the man.  I certainly disagree with him on several issues, but by and large he isn't bad.  He tends to be right, and he has nailed the process for bringing information forth in an entertaining way.

For as much as he loves to uses sophomoric rhetoric and label "fallacies" in his "critiques", he is usually as misinformed, engaging in exactly the same "fallacies" he is complaining about, and a bore on top of it.

I can see how many here would enjoy him.

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