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Or is Pasadi just being Pasadi again? http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,38628.msg616317.html#msg616317Bear in mind that there is particular judgmenet and last judgement. at particular judegement the everything to that point is judged. At last judgement everything to the end of the world is judged. So if you left a water well and people drink water after your death you become in better standing. If you wrote poetry against God and people lost belief while you are departed you get into worse standing. So giving these to a Budhist temple where sick angels are praised for how many years can make your situation worse. So trash is best option in my opinion. I do see that you may be attached of them and that they are a part of your life, anyhow for future I believe is best option. That remainds me of my yoga books that I need to trash. |
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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2011, 07:17:05 PM » |
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I've asked the same question, but no answer: http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,38440.msg611598.html#msg611598In regards to his water well, one can hope it doubles as a wishing well too. |
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I don't know whether the statements in bold are Orthodox (the only one I'd hazard a guess on is the poetry one, which I'd guess is true), So you're saying God hands out brownie points? What if someone is saddened by the poetry and commits suicide? Does that count as murder? but pasadi is definitely Orthodox... just not the kind you normally meet online. I'm not saying he's not Orthodox, just that he says questionable things. |
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I defy any of you to capture his / her voice.
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So you're saying God hands out brownie points? What if someone is saddened by the poetry and commits suicide? Does that count as murder? It can only be taken so far IMO--people have free-will, and the responsibility to not completely screw up their lives based on something someone else says--but I do think there is something to the idea. That Origen had some unorthodox ideas is one thing; that his ideas caused confusion, divisions, and turmoil for centuries afterwards is something different. While this verse is not directly applicable, think of: "Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly." (James 3:1) If you're going to presume to teach someone, you better be prepared to face the consequences if you lead them the wrong way. I don't think that ends when your body is in the ground. I'm not saying he's not Orthodox, just that he says questionable things.
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How about a writing contest where people submit pasadi-like essays, post them without identifying the authors, and vote whose writing style comes the closest? I joke, I joke.
ETA: I grammar nazi'd myself. (Who's vs. whose, page 21 of the Grammar Nazi Handbook)
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How about a writing contest where people submit pasadi-like essays, post them without identifying the authors, and vote who's writing style comes the closest? I joke, I joke.
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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2011, 08:01:37 PM » |
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It can only be taken so far IMO--people have free-will, and the responsibility to not completely screw up their lives based on something someone else says--but I do think there is something to the idea. That Origen had some unorthodox ideas is one thing; that his ideas caused confusion, divisions, and turmoil for centuries afterwards is something different. While this verse is not directly applicable, think of: "Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly." (James 3:1) If you're going to presume to teach someone, you better be prepared to face the consequences if you lead them the wrong way. I don't think that ends when your body is in the ground.
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How about a writing contest where people submit pasadi-like essays, post them without identifying the authors, and vote who's writing style comes the closest? I joke, I joke.
I used to mod a forum where people actually did that to trollish atheists, though not anonymously. It was hilarious (and painful at the same time) to watch. I was on a forum where if the arguments got really bad, we would post salmon recipes. This broke up the bad atmosphere (and made me hungry.) |
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How about a writing contest where people submit pasadi-like essays, post them without identifying the authors, and vote who's writing style comes the closest? I joke, I joke.
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How about a writing contest where people submit pasadi-like essays, post them without identifying the authors, and vote whose writing style comes the closest? I joke, I joke.
ETA: I grammar nazi'd myself. (Who's vs. whose, page 21 of the Grammar Nazi Handbook)
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How about a writing contest where people submit pasadi-like essays, post them without identifying the authors, and vote who's writing style comes the closest? I joke, I joke.
I used to mod a forum where people actually did that to trollish atheists, though not anonymously. It was hilarious (and painful at the same time) to watch. I was on a forum where if the arguments got really bad, we would post salmon recipes. This broke up the bad atmosphere (and made me hungry.) Maybe Congress can get alot more done following this route. Instead of salmon recipes they would have to swap mistress phone numbers. |
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How about a writing contest where people submit pasadi-like essays, post them without identifying the authors, and vote whose writing style comes the closest? I joke, I joke.
ETA: I grammar nazi'd myself. (Who's vs. whose, page 21 of the Grammar Nazi Handbook)
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How about a writing contest where people submit pasadi-like essays, post them without identifying the authors, and vote who's writing style comes the closest? I joke, I joke.
I used to mod a forum where people actually did that to trollish atheists, though not anonymously. It was hilarious (and painful at the same time) to watch. I was on a forum where if the arguments got really bad, we would post salmon recipes. This broke up the bad atmosphere (and made me hungry.) We'd just start making poop jokes. We were such a sophisticated bunch  . |
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143 pas!!! ur d gr8st!! <3 4evs!!!!! LMK??
Do you also analyze and imitate the writings of 12 year old girls in your spare time? If so, it's missing Bieber. Again, no idea what you are talking about. Someone asked me the other day if I was trying to look like someone whose name I imagine is spelled that way. I just naturally am the height of teen-age fashion. |
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Maybe Congress can get alot more done following this route. Instead of salmon recipes they would have to swap mistress phone numbers.
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143 pas!!! ur d gr8st!! <3 4evs!!!!! LMK??
Do you also analyze and imitate the writings of 12 year old girls in your spare time? If I had to explain why I know how such girls write, you'd never believe me. In fact, I think I was just put on the sexual predators watch list for just saying that. |
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Again, no idea what you are talking about. Someone asked me the other day if I was trying to look like someone whose name I imagine is spelled that way.
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143 pas!!! ur d gr8st!! <3 4evs!!!!! LMK??
Do you also analyze and imitate the writings of 12 year old girls in your spare time? If so, it's missing Bieber. Again, no idea what you are talking about. Someone asked me the other day if I was trying to look like someone whose name I imagine is spelled that way. I just naturally am the height of teen-age fashion. I find it hard to believe that someone as well-rounded as you has not encountered the genius that is Justin Bieber. Seriously. Here's a little vid showing off his expansive knowledge... |
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Again, no idea what you are talking about. Someone asked me the other day if I was trying to look like someone whose name I imagine is spelled that way.
I just naturally am the height of teen-age fashion.
Were you wearing anything with the color purple? 143 pas!!! ur d gr8st!! <3 4evs!!!!! LMK??
Do you also analyze and imitate the writings of 12 year old girls in your spare time? If I had to explain why I know how such girls write, you'd never believe me. In fact, I think I was just put on the sexual predators watch list for just saying that.  On a side note, it's funny how he got caught twice on camera for cheating on his wife. |
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Love that show, even though it's so wrong. I can't help it.
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"For in much wisdom is much grief, and he who increases knowledge increases sorrow." Ecclesiastes 1:18
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Or is Pasadi just being Pasadi again? http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,38628.msg616317.html#msg616317Bear in mind that there is particular judgmenet and last judgement. at particular judegement the everything to that point is judged. At last judgement everything to the end of the world is judged. So if you left a water well and people drink water after your death you become in better standing. If you wrote poetry against God and people lost belief while you are departed you get into worse standing. So giving these to a Budhist temple where sick angels are praised for how many years can make your situation worse. So trash is best option in my opinion. I do see that you may be attached of them and that they are a part of your life, anyhow for future I believe is best option. That remainds me of my yoga books that I need to trash. That sounds right. For example, you write an edifying book or do something good that lasts and after you're gone, people benefit and maybe some say, "God, remember the person who did this and grant him rest." Likewise, you could create something evil that would harm people and create all sorts of problems. If you didn't repent, your suffering may increase. |
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O Master Lord our God...who are wondrous in glory; who keeps his covenant and his mercy to them who love him with all their heart; who has given us redemption...through his only-begotten son, Jesus Christ...the life of everyone, the help of those who flee to him, the hope of those who cry to him.
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« Reply #38 on: August 08, 2011, 01:03:22 PM » |
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Or is Pasadi just being Pasadi again? http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,38628.msg616317.html#msg616317Bear in mind that there is particular judgmenet and last judgement. at particular judegement the everything to that point is judged. At last judgement everything to the end of the world is judged. So if you left a water well and people drink water after your death you become in better standing. If you wrote poetry against God and people lost belief while you are departed you get into worse standing. So giving these to a Budhist temple where sick angels are praised for how many years can make your situation worse. So trash is best option in my opinion. I do see that you may be attached of them and that they are a part of your life, anyhow for future I believe is best option. That remainds me of my yoga books that I need to trash. The concept of particular judgment and last judgment is Orthodox. When we die, we pass the particular judgment, after which we wait our final state either in angst because we are heading towards hell, or in joy because after the resurrection we will be in Paradise. Apparently, some believe you can still be saved in the last judgment if many people manifest love toward you praying for you to God. It makes sense to me, but I don't know if this "post mortem" salvation is a theological opinion or a bona fide Orthodox belief. That sounds right. For example, you write an edifying book or do something good that lasts and after you're gone, people benefit and maybe some say, "God, remember the person who did this and grant him rest." Likewise, you could create something evil that would harm people and create all sorts of problems. If you didn't repent, your suffering may increase. Particular and Last Judgments are Orthodox beliefs. When we die, we go through the particular judgment, after which we wait our resurrection in anxious expectation of hell or joyfull waiting of Heaven. Apparently, if enough people have love for you to pray for God for mercy, there is still chance that you may be saved, even after death. That is certainly in 2 Maccabbees, where people had been slain for worshipping idols and still the living pray for their salvation: But under the tunic of each of the dead they found amulets sacred to the idols of Jamnia, which the law forbids the Jews to wear. So it was clear to all that this was why these men had been slain. They all therefore praised the ways of the Lord, the just judge who brings to light the things that are hidden. Turning to supplication, they prayed that the sinful deed might be fully blotted out. The noble Judas warned the soldiers to keep themselves free from sin, for they had seen with their own eyes what had happened because of the sin of those who had fallen. He then took up a collection among all his soldiers, amounting to two thousand silver drachmas, which he sent to Jerusalem to provide for an expiatory sacrifice. In doing this he acted in a very excellent and noble way, inasmuch as he had the resurrection of the dead in view; for if he were not expecting the fallen to rise again, it would have been useless and foolish to pray for them in death. But if he did this with a view to the splendid reward that awaits those who had gone to rest in godliness, it was a holy and pious thought. Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from this sin. 2 Maccabees 12:40-46 |
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« Reply #39 on: August 08, 2011, 01:20:54 PM » |
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Or is Pasadi just being Pasadi again? http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,38628.msg616317.html#msg616317Bear in mind that there is particular judgmenet and last judgement. at particular judegement the everything to that point is judged. At last judgement everything to the end of the world is judged. So if you left a water well and people drink water after your death you become in better standing. If you wrote poetry against God and people lost belief while you are departed you get into worse standing. So giving these to a Budhist temple where sick angels are praised for how many years can make your situation worse. So trash is best option in my opinion. I do see that you may be attached of them and that they are a part of your life, anyhow for future I believe is best option. That remainds me of my yoga books that I need to trash. I think there's some truth in what he says. Matthew (18: 6-7) “If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to stumble! Such things must come, but woe to the person through whom they come!"I believe that if I stumble along the path, it's bad. However, if I made someone else stumble along their path, it's far worse. |
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Conquer evil men by your gentle kindness, and make zealous men wonder at your goodness. Put the lover of legality to shame by your compassion. With the afflicted be afflicted in mind. Love all men, but keep distant from all men.
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« Reply #40 on: August 08, 2011, 08:51:51 PM » |
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Millstones aren't cheap anymore, I think I have an engine block on my front lawn that would be perfect.
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