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« on: August 05, 2011, 03:53:26 PM »

Dutch rethink Christianity for a doubtful world

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"I think it's very liberating. [Klaas Hendrikse] is using the Bible in a metaphorical way so I can bring it to my own way of thinking, my own way of doing."

There's so much "yourself" and "me" in this article its farcical.

I'm not innocent of this and I've done a lot of it in my life as well... There comes a point, though, where it is just fantasy, it is delusional, to try and deface the truth and reform it according to our own desires.
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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2011, 05:22:21 PM »

Theres so much wrong with this view of Christ.
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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2011, 05:23:33 PM »

Dutch rethink Christianity for a doubtful world

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"I think it's very liberating. [Klaas Hendrikse] is using the Bible in a metaphorical way so I can bring it to my own way of thinking, my own way of doing."

There's so much "yourself" and "me" in this article its farcical.

I'm not innocent of this and I've done a lot of it in my life as well... There comes a point, though, where it is just fantasy, it is delusional, to try and deface the truth and reform it according to our own desires.

"Personally I have no talent for believing in life after death," Mr Hendrikse says. "No, for me our life, our task, is before death."

The fact that the priest says that is enough to let you know it is BS.  Wink
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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2011, 06:24:22 PM »


I read that during lunch today. 

I lost my appetite.

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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2011, 08:39:20 PM »

Did everyone miss the memo about our entire faith being in vain if Christ didn't rise?
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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2011, 08:50:18 PM »

From the Article:

"I think 'Son of God' is a kind of title," she says. "I don't think he was a god or a half god. I think he was a man, but he was a special man because he was very good in living from out of love, from out of the spirit of God he found inside himself."

"His book, 'Believing in a Non-Existent God'...."

This is absolute heresy.
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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2011, 09:03:53 PM »

From the Article:

"I think 'Son of God' is a kind of title," she says. "I don't think he was a god or a half god. I think he was a man, but he was a special man because he was very good in living from out of love, from out of the spirit of God he found inside himself."

"His book, 'Believing in a Non-Existent God'...."

This is absolute heresy.
I think it's a step above that. I wouldn't hesitate to call it blasphemous.

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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2011, 09:13:01 PM »

I think this shows where Protestant Christianity is headed. Give it a few generations and I think these views will be widespread, if not commonplace.

We need to pray that there are future Equals-to-the-Apostles and missionary saints waiting in the wings of God's will for the Western world, because I don't see anything less than large-scale re-evangelization being necessary. Lord have mercy. Undecided
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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2011, 10:18:25 PM »

It's easy to adopt a religion when you can make it whatever you want. Christianity-Lite.
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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2011, 10:48:37 PM »

Did everyone miss the memo about our entire faith being in vain if Christ didn't rise?

"If Christ was not raised, then all our preaching is useless, and your trust in God is useless." [1 Cor. 15:14]
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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2011, 10:48:39 PM »

It's easy to adopt a religion when you can make it whatever you want. Christianity-Lite.

Protestantism?
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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2011, 10:59:35 PM »

I just started reading it again now that I got home from work... some of these "pastors" don't even seem to understand Christianity.

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"I think 'Son of God' is a kind of title," she says. "I don't think he was a god or a half god. I think he was a man, but he was a special man because he was very good in living from out of love, from out of the spirit of God he found inside himself."

The latter half of the quote for this one is where I'm getting this. The idea that Jesus is "half God" and the fact that she says "I think he was a man" as if it is out of the ordinary to believe that, make me think she doesn't know about Christ being fully God and fully man.

Then next...

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She says that there "is not only one answer" and complains that "a lot of traditional beliefs are outside people and have grown into rigid things that you can't touch any more".

Why isn't there only one answer? Because there's actually not, or because people don't want there to be? They're afraid of excluding others, or being excluded. Its not more real than being afraid of failing a math test and "deciding" "there's no real one answer." It has nothing to do with truth and everything to do with wanting to change reality.
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« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2011, 11:02:15 PM »

I think this shows where Protestant Christianity is headed. Give it a few generations and I think these views will be widespread, if not commonplace.

We need to pray that there are future Equals-to-the-Apostles and missionary saints waiting in the wings of God's will for the Western world, because I don't see anything less than large-scale re-evangelization being necessary. Lord have mercy. Undecided

Well, in a few generations they're going to do what the Unitarian Universalists did: Once they realise they're just making it up they will realise there's no imperative from within their self constructed way to identify as Christian or be bound by anything Christian any more at all.
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« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2011, 10:13:01 PM »

I agree. A Presbyterian minister once told my priest that his congregation is Presbyterian in name alone, and Unitarian in all other practices. The Presbyterian church will probably be gone within the next century, and the Methodist Church won't be far behind in the doctrinal confusion.
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