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Question regarding a recent Catholic icon...
« on: August 04, 2011, 07:16:26 PM »
I remember coming across an icon that depicted a Roman Catholic saint what appeared to be a 20th-21st century man who wore a band around his bicep, I think it had something to do with him giving alot to the homeless or something, but he was canonized very quickly.

IIRC he was located in California, but I can't recall his name.
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Re: Question regarding a recent Catholic icon...
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2011, 01:40:39 AM »
I think that was one by the Benedictine who does weird and often creepy icons of people who aren't Saints or even Christians. I think the one you're thinking of was Harvey Milk, who was Jewish.
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Re: Question regarding a recent Catholic icon...
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2011, 02:01:58 AM »
I think that was one by the Benedictine who does weird and often creepy icons of people who aren't Saints or even Christians. I think the one you're thinking of was Harvey Milk, who was Jewish.

Jason is correct. I'm virtually certain that this is the one about which you ask. Robert Lentz, who painted it, is not a Benedictine, however. He is a Franciscan who, oddly enough, studied iconography at Holy Transfiguration in Brookline, MA (he apparently missed the classes on appropraiteness of subject matter).

The original of this and a variety of other 'odd' icons is to be found in Grace (Episcopal) Cathedral in San Francisco, I believe (the link is to the Cathedral's store).

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Re: Question regarding a recent Catholic icon...
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2011, 02:04:50 AM »
I think that was one by the Benedictine who does weird and often creepy icons of people who aren't Saints or even Christians. I think the one you're thinking of was Harvey Milk, who was Jewish.

Jason is correct. I'm virtually certain that this is the one about which you ask. Robert Lentz, who painted it, is not a Benedictine, however. He is a Franciscan who, oddly enough, studied iconography at Holy Transfiguration in Brookline, MA (he apparently missed the classes on appropraiteness of subject matter).

The original of this and a variety of other 'odd' icons is to be found in Grace (Episcopal) Cathedral in San Francisco, I believe (the link is to the Cathedral's store).

Many years,

Neil

I just had to go check my transfiguration icon from HTM to make sure he didn't write it...

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Re: Question regarding a recent Catholic icon...
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2011, 02:16:55 AM »
I just had to go check my transfiguration icon from HTM to make sure he didn't write it...

Jason,

I wouldn't be concerned. I've never heard that any icons from HTM were written by Lentz. That he studied there is an odd fact that an Orthodox iconographer friend discovered a few years back.

Along those same lines, 'Abbott George Burke', the individual behind the infamous Monastery Icons (and its various other incarnations), also studied iconography there - as did at least one other of the Abbott's confreres.

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Re: Question regarding a recent Catholic icon...
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2011, 06:45:27 AM »

Ah, the Prots and wayward Catholic monks don't have a monopoly on weird or unholy painting which are painted in iconic style. Even Orthodox (don't pass out now folks) can go astray. How about 'st' joe as depicted here: http://www.monachos.net/forum/showthread.php?5591-Icon-depicting-Stalin

As my mom used to tell me, just consider the source!   ;)

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Re: Question regarding a recent Catholic icon...
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2011, 02:39:44 PM »
Yes, Harvey Milk, thanks! Strange icon indeed.
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Re: Question regarding a recent Catholic icon...
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2011, 03:32:05 PM »
Yes, Harvey Milk, thanks! Strange icon indeed.
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Re: Question regarding a recent Catholic icon...
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2011, 03:36:11 PM »
Yes, Harvey Milk, thanks! Strange icon indeed.
Whoah!  Your avatar almost gave me a cornea.

Don't you already have two?  ??? Though it does call into question who the real ialmisry is...

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Re: Question regarding a recent Catholic icon...
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2011, 03:51:40 PM »
Yes, Harvey Milk, thanks! Strange icon indeed.
Whoah!  Your avatar almost gave me a cornea.
I was hoping my custom title beneath my name would give you a chuckle. And the one beneath your picture.
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Re: Question regarding a recent Catholic icon...
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2011, 03:55:46 PM »
Yes, Harvey Milk, thanks! Strange icon indeed.
Whoah!  Your avatar almost gave me a cornea.

Don't you already have two?  ??? Though it does call into question who the real ialmisry is...

I think he meant hernia. Or maybe he really did mean it (link - do not look if you are squimish... it's a artificial cornea procedure image)
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Re: Question regarding a recent Catholic icon...
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2011, 04:50:41 PM »
Yes, Harvey Milk, thanks! Strange icon indeed.
Whoah!  Your avatar almost gave me a cornea.

Don't you already have two?  ??? Though it does call into question who the real ialmisry is...

I think he meant hernia. Or maybe he really did mean it (link - do not look if you are squimish... it's a artificial cornea procedure image)

You are awake for that operation. You have to answer questions from the Dr. Been there, done that, done that, done that......

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Re: Question regarding a recent Catholic icon...
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2011, 07:57:55 PM »
When I saw the name "Harvey Milk," I was like, "No way, they're joking."


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Re: Question regarding a recent Catholic icon...
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2011, 10:39:39 PM »
Yes, Harvey Milk, thanks! Strange icon indeed.
Whoah!  Your avatar almost gave me a cornea.

Don't you already have two?  ??? Though it does call into question who the real ialmisry is...

I think he meant hernia. Or maybe he really did mean it (link - do not look if you are squimish... it's a artificial cornea procedure image)

You are awake for that operation. You have to answer questions from the Dr. Been there, done that, done that, done that......

Yep, that is why I will never have lasik. I watched the video... about the point where the can-opener (I'm not exaggerating!) pops down in all its horrific glory and slices the guy's eye open I was done considering that.