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why do ppl call priests father anyway, where does that come from??
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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2011, 04:49:04 PM » |
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why do ppl call priests father anyway, where does that come from??
Jesus said "call no man Father". Thus, Orthodox call priests Father. Get it now? 
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2011, 04:55:11 PM » |
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why do ppl call priests father anyway, where does that come from??
Jesus said "call no man Father". Thus, Orthodox call priests Father. Get it now?  no that was rabbi teacher wasn't it?? how come you dont say what your faith is?? You should say
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2011, 04:58:44 PM » |
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Jesus didn't want anyone calling anyone else anything, I think. But regarding your question, maybe it has to do with the idea that father signifies someone who looks after or takes care of someone... sort of a spiritual father to a child... EDIT--I don't know what my faith is, so rather than change it every day, I just leave it blank for now 
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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2011, 05:00:19 PM » |
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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2011, 05:18:08 PM » |
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thanks salpy. I saw the podcast link too.... the hopko one.... and also the 1 corinthians 2:15 which i never read before. So they are called father because they are like spiritual fathers who represent God father.
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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2011, 06:54:32 PM » |
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Jesus didn't want anyone calling anyone else anything, I think.
LOL! He had like some sorta Messiah-Complex or something . . .
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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2011, 06:59:01 PM » |
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EDIT--I don't know what my faith is, so rather than change it every day, I just leave it blank for now  Just decide!!! crikey how hard can it be like what else do you need to know??
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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2011, 07:11:35 PM » |
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EDIT--I don't know what my faith is, so rather than change it every day, I just leave it blank for now  Just decide!!! crikey how hard can it be like what else do you need to know?? Hey, St. Gregory the Theologian was raised by Christian parents and his father was a bishop, and he still didn't get baptized till he was 26. Cut me some slack, sometimes people need some extra time! 
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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2011, 07:12:11 PM » |
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EDIT--I don't know what my faith is, so rather than change it every day, I just leave it blank for now  Just decide!!! crikey how hard can it be like what else do you need to know?? Because he is very intellectually minded and probably introspective, correct my assumptions if I'm wrong, so it can cause someone to ask the really hard questions that will test their faith. I'm the same way. Although I have no doubt, as of now and the future, that Orthodox Christianity is the true faith.
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« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2011, 07:17:54 PM » |
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EDIT--I don't know what my faith is, so rather than change it every day, I just leave it blank for now  Just decide!!! crikey how hard can it be like what else do you need to know?? Hey, St. Gregory the Theologian was raised by Christian parents and his father was a bishop, and he still didn't get baptized till he was 26. Cut me some slack, sometimes people need some extra time!  You have six years on him, how much more slack like seriously what more else do you need??
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« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2011, 07:27:47 PM » |
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EDIT--I don't know what my faith is, so rather than change it every day, I just leave it blank for now  Just decide!!! crikey how hard can it be like what else do you need to know?? Hey, St. Gregory the Theologian was raised by Christian parents and his father was a bishop, and he still didn't get baptized till he was 26. Cut me some slack, sometimes people need some extra time!  You have six years on him, how much more slack like seriously what more else do you need?? St. Gregory only got baptized when he did because he almost died at sea, and promised God that if he survived he'd become a part of the Church. Maybe I need God to almost kill me? 
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« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2011, 07:31:50 PM » |
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EDIT--I don't know what my faith is, so rather than change it every day, I just leave it blank for now  Just decide!!! crikey how hard can it be like what else do you need to know?? Hey, St. Gregory the Theologian was raised by Christian parents and his father was a bishop, and he still didn't get baptized till he was 26. Cut me some slack, sometimes people need some extra time!  You have six years on him, how much more slack like seriously what more else do you need?? St. Gregory only got baptized when he did because he almost died at sea, and promised God that if he survived he'd become a part of the Church. Maybe I need God to almost kill me?  crikey don't joke about that stuff ok so but do you take ages to make up your mind about allot of stuff?? Like that might be just your personality which is fine but i am just curious thas all.
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2011, 07:32:04 PM » |
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why do ppl call priests father anyway, where does that come from??
Jesus said "call no man Father". Thus, Orthodox call priests Father. Get it now?  Hahaha. We do love to blatantly disobey. That's also why we worship idols and Goddess Mary.
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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2011, 07:53:08 PM » |
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crikey don't joke about that stuff
ok so but do you take ages to make up your mind about allot of stuff?? Like that might be just your personality which is fine but i am just curious thas all.
I simply don't have enough faith in God yet.
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« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2011, 07:54:07 PM » |
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ok so but do you take ages to make up your mind about allot of stuff??
No just seconds. Then he makes up his mind about it again. Rinse. Lather. Repeat.
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« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2011, 07:54:32 PM » |
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crikey don't joke about that stuff
ok so but do you take ages to make up your mind about allot of stuff?? Like that might be just your personality which is fine but i am just curious thas all.
I simply don't have enough faith in God yet. You beat me. And my answer was better.
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« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2011, 08:27:50 PM » |
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why do ppl call priests father anyway, where does that come from??
Jesus said "call no man Father". Thus, Orthodox call priests Father. Get it now?  Hahaha. We do love to blatantly disobey. That's also why we worship idols and Goddess Mary. And don't forget the unscriptural human sacrifice we perform up on the altar... which we then proceed to cannibalize.
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« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2011, 08:45:17 PM » |
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I simply don't have enough faith in God yet. Don't be so harsh to yourself. Who is perfect? St. Thomas had doubts, but he turned out all right. 
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« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2011, 09:19:13 PM » |
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selam poppy  the tradition must have existed earlier than that but the first time a priest was called a father in the scriptures was byMicha on Judges 17:9-10 And Micah said to him, “Where do you come from?” So he said to him, “I am a Levite from Bethlehem in Judah, and I am on my way to find a place to stay.” Micah said to him, “Dwell with me, and be a father and a priest to me, and I will give you ten shekels of silver per year, a suit of clothes, and your sustenance.” So the Levite went in. as to why the orthodox Christians call thier priests Father is explained as usual beautifuly by the Reverend Father Hopko Blessed day
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« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2011, 09:55:52 PM » |
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For though ye have ten thousand instructers in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel. Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me. For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church. Today's priests and bishops follow in his footsteps.
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