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« Reply #90 on: August 06, 2011, 10:40:15 PM »

enemy attestation whom?

eyewitness acounts whom?

conversions to Christianity whom?

There's more evidence for him existing than not existing.
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« Reply #91 on: August 06, 2011, 10:51:45 PM »

proofs outside the Bible regarding Jesus ?



Quite a bit. Many of the Apocrypha mention him, often focusing on him.

If you're making the common secular demand for non-religious works that speak of him (I believe Josephus mentions him), you should realize that you're asking for, he was a religious figure and everything speaking of him is going to have that tinge.

It would be like asking for evidence of Octavius from non-political writings, or Julius Caesar from non-military-political sources. I doubt you'll find many non-religious sources that mention Mohammed either.

In fact for the first two of those very important historical figures, the amount of evidence for their existence is far less than for Christ (I have no idea about Mohammed, I'd assume about the same), so if you want to take the position that there is no acceptable evidence that Jesus ever lived, you must of necessity doubt the existence of every historical figure before 1500, and many after.
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« Reply #92 on: August 07, 2011, 03:25:42 AM »

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Quite a bit. Many of the Apocrypha mention him, often focusing on him.

If you're making the common secular demand for non-religious works that speak of him (I believe Josephus mentions him), you should realize that you're asking for, he was a religious figure and everything speaking of him is going to have that tinge.

It would be like asking for evidence of Octavius from non-political writings, or Julius Caesar from non-military-political sources. I doubt you'll find many non-religious sources that mention Mohammed either.

In fact for the first two of those very important historical figures, the amount of evidence for their existence is far less than for Christ (I have no idea about Mohammed, I'd assume about the same), so if you want to take the position that there is no acceptable evidence that Jesus ever lived, you must of necessity doubt the existence of every historical figure before 1500, and many after.

religion won`t do... the most convincing evidences are the historical ones... Josephus won`t do eighter he was a christian.. impartial and neutral sources are that which are convincing...

Mohammed afaik has more historical validity than Jesus.He was an historic figure, involved in military campaigns.
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« Reply #93 on: August 07, 2011, 03:40:26 AM »

Josephus was Jewish...
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« Reply #94 on: August 07, 2011, 03:42:42 AM »

religion won`t do... the most convincing evidences are the historical ones... Josephus won`t do eighter he was a christian.. impartial and neutral sources are that which are convincing...


Here is a Wiki site which will get you started with investigating the historical evidence...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus
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« Reply #95 on: August 07, 2011, 04:05:00 AM »

religion won`t do... the most convincing evidences are the historical ones... Josephus won`t do eighter he was a christian.. impartial and neutral sources are that which are convincing...


Here is a Wiki site which will get you started with investigating the historical evidence...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus
Father if I may add, certain saints like Jerome placed their own misguided pride over the judgment of the Church which in turn would cause a think tank like the Jesus Seminar to come. What I mean by this instead of looking to the LXX for the OT which was approved by the Church, Hebrews, etc to create the Vulgate he instead looked to the Jews of his day for assistance, like the Masoretic text.. So consequently because of his poor scholarship, it's as if the Church couldn't be trusted for one man's voice superseded that of the Church. And of course certain other figures were just adding more fuel to the fire to further create a schism between both western and eastern churches culminating to the Great Schism.
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« Reply #96 on: August 07, 2011, 04:13:29 AM »

proofs outside the Bible regarding Jesus ?


Have you considered that the New Testament is 27 separate documents that were only later accumulated into one text?

Because many odd people today consider "the Bible" to constitute a single ancient source.
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« Reply #97 on: August 07, 2011, 09:40:58 AM »

proofs outside the Bible regarding Jesus ?



Quite a bit. Many of the Apocrypha mention him, often focusing on him.

If you're making the common secular demand for non-religious works that speak of him (I believe Josephus mentions him), you should realize that you're asking for, he was a religious figure and everything speaking of him is going to have that tinge.

It would be like asking for evidence of Octavius from non-political writings, or Julius Caesar from non-military-political sources. I doubt you'll find many non-religious sources that mention Mohammed either.

In fact for the first two of those very important historical figures, the amount of evidence for their existence is far less than for Christ (I have no idea about Mohammed, I'd assume about the same), so if you want to take the position that there is no acceptable evidence that Jesus ever lived, you must of necessity doubt the existence of every historical figure before 1500, and many after.

religion won`t do... the most convincing evidences are the historical ones... Josephus won`t do eighter he was a christian.. impartial and neutral sources are that which are convincing...

Mohammed afaik has more historical validity than Jesus.He was an historic figure, involved in military campaigns.
Josephus was Jewish and is considered a trustworthy source for events of his own lifetime such as those of Jesus' life. Real historians don't discount an entire source because it's "religious."


As for secular sources, Tacitus and possibly Suetonius both mention Jesus. Lucian also. Hardly sympathetic sources. Also significant is the fact that no early sceptic (Trypho, Celsus, Porphyry, etc.) was using the argument that Jesus never existed, otherwise the Christian apologetic literature would certainly reflect a rebuttal.

Then there is the Jewish Talmud, a hostile source, which again contains a denigrating treatment of Jesus but not a denial of his existence.
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« Reply #98 on: August 07, 2011, 09:46:26 AM »

religion won`t do... the most convincing evidences are the historical ones... Josephus won`t do eighter he was a christian.. impartial and neutral sources are that which are convincing...


Here is a Wiki site which will get you started with investigating the historical evidence...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus
Father if I may add, certain saints like Jerome placed their own misguided pride over the judgment of the Church which in turn would cause a think tank like the Jesus Seminar to come. What I mean by this instead of looking to the LXX for the OT which was approved by the Church, Hebrews, etc to create the Vulgate he instead looked to the Jews of his day for assistance, like the Masoretic text.. So consequently because of his poor scholarship, it's as if the Church couldn't be trusted for one man's voice superseded that of the Church. And of course certain other figures were just adding more fuel to the fire to further create a schism between both western and eastern churches culminating to the Great Schism.
That's going a little too far imo. Yes, the Masoretic (which comes centuries after St. Jerome, though I'm guessing you mean its text family) is inferior but it's not so terrible as to throw the entire Church into doubt.

And AFAIK the Jesus Seminar paid little attention to manuscripts, mostly relying on the RSV, which many Orthodox teachers use.
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« Reply #99 on: August 07, 2011, 11:07:23 AM »

enemy attestation whom?

eyewitness acounts whom?

conversions to Christianity whom?

You're not going to find much, because there wasn't much, until far too late afterwards...
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« Reply #100 on: August 07, 2011, 01:13:49 PM »

religion won`t do... the most convincing evidences are the historical ones... Josephus won`t do eighter he was a christian.. impartial and neutral sources are that which are convincing...


Here is a Wiki site which will get you started with investigating the historical evidence...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus

from your link : There are Greco-Roman pagan passages relevant to Christianity in the works of three major non-Christian writers of the late 1st and early 2nd centuries – Tacitus, Suetonius, and Pliny the Younger. However, these are generally references to early Christians rather than a historical Jesus. Tacitus, in his Annals written c. 115, mentions Christus, without many historical details (see also: Tacitus on Jesus). There is an obscure reference to a Jewish leader called "Chrestus" in Suetonius. (According to Suetonius, chapter 25, there occurred in Rome, during the reign of emperor Claudius (c. AD 50), "persistent disturbances ... at the instigation of Chrestus".[66][67] Mention in Acts of "After this, Paul left Athens and went to Corinth. There he met a Jew named Aquila, a native of Pontus, who had recently come from Italy with his wife Priscilla, because Claudius had ordered all the Jews to leave Rome."

Charles Guignebert (Professor of the History Of Christianity at the Sorbonne), while rejecting the Jesus Myth theory and feeling that the Epistles of Paul were sufficient to prove the historical existence of Jesus, said "all the pagan and Jewish testimonies, so-called, afford us no information of any value about the life of Jesus, nor even any assurance that he ever lived.
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« Reply #101 on: August 07, 2011, 03:27:57 PM »

There are not a whole bunch of historical forces for Jesus...if you throw out the Bible.  Now, for your homework, find some contemporary sources for Alexander the Great.  There are probably more sources about Jesus than there are for Alexander the Great if you accept sources written hundreds of years after the fact.

(And the only people who debate whether Alexander existed believe that Aliens built the pyramids, Atlantis was a real place, and wear their pants on their head...to hold the tinfoil in place.  I hold people who don't believe Jesus existed in about the same regard...)
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« Reply #102 on: August 07, 2011, 03:31:38 PM »

There's more manuscripts of the NT than there are any other documents from antiquity.

If Christ never lived there would be no Church. Why would Jews be tortured and killed for something that was just a myth? And taken as a whole, Christianity must be the cruelest hoax ever invented if you subscribe that it was created.
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« Reply #103 on: August 07, 2011, 04:57:12 PM »

And the only people who debate whether Alexander existed believe that Aliens built the pyramids...

They're space ships I tell ya!  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #104 on: August 07, 2011, 06:28:28 PM »

Why would Jews be tortured and killed for something that was just a myth?

People die for abstract ideas and concepts all the time. It's amazing how pliable people are.
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« Reply #105 on: August 07, 2011, 08:24:55 PM »

Well yes, but why would the Jews have been outraged at other Jews believing in a symbolic person who was both God and man, and symbolically died and rose again.  At least, why would they be so outraged as to persecute the Christians?
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« Reply #106 on: August 07, 2011, 08:28:59 PM »

Well yes, but why would the Jews have been outraged at other Jews believing in a symbolic person who was both God and man, and symbolically died and rose again.  At least, why would they be so outraged as to persecute the Christians?

It was blasphemy, and they weren't restricted by modern ideas of freedom and sensitivity and all that stuff.
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« Reply #107 on: August 07, 2011, 08:38:53 PM »

Well yes, but why would the Jews have been outraged at other Jews believing in a symbolic person who was both God and man, and symbolically died and rose again.  At least, why would they be so outraged as to persecute the Christians?

It was blasphemy, and they weren't restricted by modern ideas of freedom and sensitivity and all that stuff.

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« Reply #108 on: August 07, 2011, 08:44:07 PM »

Why would Jews be tortured and killed for something that was just a myth?

People die for abstract ideas and concepts all the time. It's amazing how pliable people are.
But realistically speaking would someone honestly be crucified, behaded, tortured, etc for just an abstract idea or concept? Wouldn't the very act of being exposed to being killed immediately put into question how much veracity is in the claim that Christ rose from the dead?

I'm trying to picture the hysteria whence upon seeing the Risen Christ.
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« Reply #109 on: August 07, 2011, 08:44:55 PM »

Charles Guignebert (Professor of the History Of Christianity at the Sorbonne), while rejecting the Jesus Myth theory and feeling that the Epistles of Paul were sufficient to prove the historical existence of Jesus, said "all the pagan and Jewish testimonies, so-called, afford us no information of any value about the life of Jesus, nor even any assurance that he ever lived.
I think he's smoking crack, but even if he's right, why don't agree with him re: Paul?
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« Reply #110 on: August 07, 2011, 10:02:44 PM »

Well yes, but why would the Jews have been outraged at other Jews believing in a symbolic person who was both God and man, and symbolically died and rose again.  At least, why would they be so outraged as to persecute the Christians?

It was blasphemy, and they weren't restricted by modern ideas of freedom and sensitivity and all that stuff.

Belief in a symbolic person was blasphemy?  Wouldn't it also, then, be blasphemy to think of Moses seeing the backside of God, given that God has no body?
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« Reply #111 on: August 07, 2011, 10:08:01 PM »

Well yes, but why would the Jews have been outraged at other Jews believing in a symbolic person who was both God and man, and symbolically died and rose again.  At least, why would they be so outraged as to persecute the Christians?

It was blasphemy, and they weren't restricted by modern ideas of freedom and sensitivity and all that stuff.

Belief in a symbolic person was blasphemy?

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« Reply #112 on: August 09, 2011, 03:11:34 AM »

It appears Asteriktos wants to avoid easy, unsatisfactory answers.
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And if you are healed, then as St. John Chrysostom says (paraphrased) it is to suffer more for the Glory of God. To much is given, much is asked, and all that.


Do any of our Patristicians have the homily (or whatever) where this comes from?

I got curious as to what St. John was commenting on. It's one of the best things he said, IMO.
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« Reply #114 on: August 03, 2014, 02:46:24 PM »

"jesus killed people"
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« Reply #115 on: August 07, 2014, 11:28:38 PM »

Atheists you say... I don't think I've met a real Atheist, seems like most people I meet who call themselves Atheist are in fact Anti-Theist.  laugh
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« Reply #116 on: August 23, 2014, 07:16:48 PM »

The conspiracy that Jesus the "Son of God" was influenced by the Aztec worship of the Sun--hence Sun/Son, and Jesus becoming the Sun/Son of God.

Ignoring the fact that the similarity between the words "Son" and "Sun" are purely coincidental and only apply in English and not in Hebrew or the native Aztec languages, I guess these people never learned in school that the West didn't even encounter the Aztecs until the 16th century, almost two millennium after Christianity had been established.

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« Reply #117 on: August 23, 2014, 07:57:08 PM »

"jesus killed people"

Jesus was Hitler.

No kidding.
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« Reply #118 on: August 23, 2014, 08:23:00 PM »

Jesus and Muhammad were basically the same since Jesus said he came not to bring peace but to bring a sword, so you can't criticize Muhammad/Islam unless you criticize Jesus too.

(That was said by a Muslim who was trying to argue that Christianity is wrong and Islam is right. When Muhammad and Jesus are "basically the same", and of course Islam teaches that Jesus preached essentially Islamic doctrine anyway. Hmmm.)
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« Reply #119 on: August 23, 2014, 09:18:07 PM »

Jesus was a buddhist
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« Reply #120 on: August 23, 2014, 11:34:24 PM »

"The eucharist was originally a psychedelic mushroom and Christ is actually a mushroom god."

Vladimir Lenin was a mushroom too.

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« Reply #121 on: August 24, 2014, 12:09:00 AM »

The conspiracy that Jesus the "Son of God" was influenced by the Aztec worship of the Sun--hence Sun/Son, and Jesus becoming the Sun/Son of God.

Ignoring the fact that the similarity between the words "Son" and "Sun" are purely coincidental and only apply in English and not in Hebrew or the native Aztec languages, I guess these people never learned in school that the West didn't even encounter the Aztecs until the 16th century, almost two millennium after Christianity had been established.

People need to stop listening to silly KRS-1 songs to get their information from.

You can also add the fact that the Aztecs didn't even exist 2000 years ago. Because you just know they're going to try and come up with some stuff about Aztecs sailing to the Levant.
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« Reply #122 on: August 25, 2014, 11:20:50 AM »

"The eucharist was originally a psychedelic mushroom and Christ is actually a mushroom god."

Vladimir Lenin was a mushroom too.

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In the interview Kuryokhin was telling about his findings that Vladimir Lenin used to consume a lot of psychedelic mushrooms and eventually turned into a mushroom himself. This absurd idea wasn't presented all at once; instead there was a resemblance of logical chain of reasonings, facts and quotations from various sources. An aura of plausibility was created using manipulation of facts, pseudo-scientific style and loose storytelling.

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Why haven't I heard about this before? This is fantastic. Reminds me of this film:

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« Reply #123 on: August 25, 2014, 11:26:31 AM »

"jesus killed people"

Jesus was Hitler.

No kidding.

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