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Question: Should military service be mandatory?
Yes, for everyone physically and mentally able. - 4 (9.8%)
Yes, but only for men who are physically and mentally able. - 2 (4.9%)
Yes. Everyone. - 1 (2.4%)
Yes, but with exemptions fairly easy to obtain. - 1 (2.4%)
Maybe, it depends on the circumstances. - 8 (19.5%)
Probably not. - 4 (9.8%)
No. Just no. - 21 (51.2%)
What? - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 41

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« Reply #45 on: March 07, 2014, 07:12:04 AM »

I voted probably not. I don't think most people in the US have the ethics/morality /discipline necessary to be in the military. The standards for enlistment would have to go down drastically if everyone was required to serve. Standards are low enough already.

The military is the place to learn discipline.

Nope. Military is the place for becoming a complete moron and breaking the rules. Everyone's mental age will decrease to the level of 12 years old.
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« Reply #46 on: March 07, 2014, 01:37:52 PM »

I voted probably not. I don't think most people in the US have the ethics/morality /discipline necessary to be in the military. The standards for enlistment would have to go down drastically if everyone was required to serve. Standards are low enough already.

The military is the place to learn discipline.

Nope. Military is the place for becoming a complete moron and breaking the rules. Everyone's mental age will decrease to the level of 12 years old.

Most Europeans I have met have had a similar opinion.  I kind of wish we could use our money for better education and healthcare and bring our M1A3s home and see how well the EU does when they have to put 15-20% of GDP toward enough Leopard 2s to keep from changing their signs over to Cyrillic/Arabic lettering.
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« Reply #47 on: March 07, 2014, 09:48:12 PM »

You'd have mandatory military service too if you lived next to Russia. police

Russia has it too, I think.
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« Reply #48 on: March 07, 2014, 09:50:34 PM »

I voted probably not. I don't think most people in the US have the ethics/morality /discipline necessary to be in the military. The standards for enlistment would have to go down drastically if everyone was required to serve. Standards are low enough already.

The military is the place to learn discipline.

Nope. Military is the place for becoming a complete moron and breaking the rules. Everyone's mental age will decrease to the level of 12 years old.

That's only if you don't have executions for infractions or caning or something.
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« Reply #49 on: March 07, 2014, 10:16:55 PM »

Should military service be mandatory? (no particular country assumed, so I guess just choose your own...)

No, as Christians we are supposed to love our enemies.   I could not fight for the military.

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It's such a simple concept really. But I guess some people like the challenge of camel swallowing.
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« Reply #50 on: March 07, 2014, 11:37:07 PM »

Should military service be mandatory? (no particular country assumed, so I guess just choose your own...)

No, as Christians we are supposed to love our enemies.   I could not fight for the military.

+1

It's such a simple concept really. But I guess some people like the challenge of camel swallowing.
How many camels have you swallowed, Gebre?

Too many brother. Too many.


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« Reply #51 on: March 10, 2014, 10:45:37 AM »

Should military service be mandatory? (no particular country assumed, so I guess just choose your own...)

No, as Christians we are supposed to love our enemies.   I could not fight for the military.

+1

It's such a simple concept really. But I guess some people like the challenge of camel swallowing.
How many camels have you swallowed, Gebre?

Too many brother. Too many.


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« Reply #52 on: March 10, 2014, 10:58:43 AM »

I voted probably not. I don't think most people in the US have the ethics/morality /discipline necessary to be in the military. The standards for enlistment would have to go down drastically if everyone was required to serve. Standards are low enough already.

The military is the place to learn discipline.

Nope. Military is the place for becoming a complete moron and breaking the rules. Everyone's mental age will decrease to the level of 12 years old.

Most Europeans I have met have had a similar opinion.  I kind of wish we could use our money for better education and healthcare and bring our M1A3s home and see how well the EU does when they have to put 15-20% of GDP toward enough Leopard 2s to keep from changing their signs over to Cyrillic/Arabic lettering.

That would be nice.
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« Reply #53 on: March 10, 2014, 12:37:45 PM »

Should military service be mandatory? (no particular country assumed, so I guess just choose your own...)

No, as Christians we are supposed to love our enemies.   I could not fight for the military.

+1

It's such a simple concept really. But I guess some people like the challenge of camel swallowing.
How many camels have you swallowed, Gebre?

Too many brother. Too many.


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And there was much rejoicing. 

 Huh

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« Reply #54 on: March 10, 2014, 12:40:30 PM »

Should military service be mandatory? (no particular country assumed, so I guess just choose your own...)

No, as Christians we are supposed to love our enemies.   I could not fight for the military.

+1

It's such a simple concept really. But I guess some people like the challenge of camel swallowing.
How many camels have you swallowed, Gebre?

Too many brother. Too many.


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And there was much rejoicing. 

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You know, the hump day camel?

If you don't know, consider yourself lucky.  I like camels, but that one is annoying. 
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« Reply #55 on: March 10, 2014, 12:44:03 PM »

Should military service be mandatory? (no particular country assumed, so I guess just choose your own...)

No, as Christians we are supposed to love our enemies.   I could not fight for the military.

+1

It's such a simple concept really. But I guess some people like the challenge of camel swallowing.
How many camels have you swallowed, Gebre?

Too many brother. Too many.


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And there was much rejoicing. 

 Huh

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You know, the hump day camel?

If you don't know, consider yourself lucky.  I like camels, but that one is annoying. 

Ahh... got it. Good one.  Smiley


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« Reply #56 on: March 10, 2014, 12:45:16 PM »

I voted probably not. I don't think most people in the US have the ethics/morality /discipline necessary to be in the military. The standards for enlistment would have to go down drastically if everyone was required to serve. Standards are low enough already.

The military is the place to learn discipline.

Nope. Military is the place for becoming a complete moron and breaking the rules. Everyone's mental age will decrease to the level of 12 years old.

Most Europeans I have met have had a similar opinion.  I kind of wish we could use our money for better education and healthcare and bring our M1A3s home and see how well the EU does when they have to put 15-20% of GDP toward enough Leopard 2s to keep from changing their signs over to Cyrillic/Arabic lettering.

That would be nice.

It would be, for all parties involved.  But do you really think most Euros would go for that?  
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« Reply #57 on: March 10, 2014, 01:44:01 PM »

I voted probably not. I don't think most people in the US have the ethics/morality /discipline necessary to be in the military. The standards for enlistment would have to go down drastically if everyone was required to serve. Standards are low enough already.

The military is the place to learn discipline.

Nope. Military is the place for becoming a complete moron and breaking the rules. Everyone's mental age will decrease to the level of 12 years old.

Most Europeans I have met have had a similar opinion.  I kind of wish we could use our money for better education and healthcare and bring our M1A3s home and see how well the EU does when they have to put 15-20% of GDP toward enough Leopard 2s to keep from changing their signs over to Cyrillic/Arabic lettering.

That would be nice.

It would be, for all parties involved.  But do you really think most Euros would go for that? 

No. Unlikely. Most like to believe that this is the end of history and that the army has become obsolete. Perhaps you Americans should gently bomb cities like London, Paris and Amsterdam. You might save Europe that way by making people realise that we need to do something about our defence.
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« Reply #58 on: March 10, 2014, 04:13:05 PM »

I voted probably not. I don't think most people in the US have the ethics/morality /discipline necessary to be in the military. The standards for enlistment would have to go down drastically if everyone was required to serve. Standards are low enough already.

The military is the place to learn discipline.

Nope. Military is the place for becoming a complete moron and breaking the rules. Everyone's mental age will decrease to the level of 12 years old.

Most Europeans I have met have had a similar opinion.  I kind of wish we could use our money for better education and healthcare and bring our M1A3s home and see how well the EU does when they have to put 15-20% of GDP toward enough Leopard 2s to keep from changing their signs over to Cyrillic/Arabic lettering.

That would be nice.

It would be, for all parties involved.  But do you really think most Euros would go for that? 

No. Unlikely. Most like to believe that this is the end of history and that the army has become obsolete. Perhaps you Americans should gently bomb cities like London, Paris and Amsterdam. You might save Europe that way by making people realise that we need to do something about our defence.

Sorry, no can do.  I don't think your armies might do much against the Russians, or a comparably modern army such as India, China, Vietnam, or Cuba, but you still have more than we like to fight. Put some Iraqi sock puppets up and we'll smack them around all day until we lose interest, but put someone up with a bit of motivation and we have to make a big show of pulling out.  We don't have the cash for those games no more.

So you guys have to find your own invader.
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« Reply #59 on: March 12, 2014, 09:12:05 PM »

A Christian can't be in the military in America.  It requires that all military swear an oath.   Jesus commanded us not to swear.
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« Reply #60 on: March 12, 2014, 09:18:09 PM »

A Christian can't be in the military in America.  It requires that all military swear an oath.   Jesus commanded us not to swear.

What if they render the oath in the form of a question and you just say yes or no?    Roll Eyes
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« Reply #61 on: March 12, 2014, 11:18:00 PM »

A Christian can't be in the military in America.  It requires that all military swear an oath.   Jesus commanded us not to swear.

What if they render the oath in the form of a question and you just say yes or no?    Roll Eyes

hehe, it's either an oath or its not.  Like if they say "do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth" and you say "yes", you took an oath.

In this case the military at least here in America they raise their right hand and recite.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY3MlR-NWig
(Being fair as this is supposed to be a "pretty video" or inspiring)
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« Reply #62 on: March 12, 2014, 11:19:27 PM »

A Christian can't be in the military in America.  It requires that all military swear an oath.   Jesus commanded us not to swear.

What if they render the oath in the form of a question and you just say yes or no?    Roll Eyes

hehe, it's either an oath or its not.  Like if they say "do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth" and you say "yes", you took an oath.

In this case the military at least here in America they raise their right hand and recite.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY3MlR-NWig
(Being fair as this is supposed to be a "pretty video" or inspiring)


What other things that Jesus said do you take so literally? 
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« Reply #63 on: March 12, 2014, 11:46:49 PM »

I voted probably not. I don't think most people in the US have the ethics/morality /discipline necessary to be in the military. The standards for enlistment would have to go down drastically if everyone was required to serve. Standards are low enough already.

The military is the place to learn discipline.

Nope. Military is the place for becoming a complete moron and breaking the rules. Everyone's mental age will decrease to the level of 12 years old.

Well, that's nice.
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« Reply #64 on: March 13, 2014, 05:05:45 PM »

Nope. Military is the place for becoming a complete moron and breaking the rules. Everyone's mental age will decrease to the level of 12 years old.

Well, that's nice.

It makes you wonder when OCNet was incorporated into the National Guard, doesn't it? 
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« Reply #65 on: March 13, 2014, 08:14:50 PM »

Nope. Military is the place for becoming a complete moron and breaking the rules. Everyone's mental age will decrease to the level of 12 years old.

Well, that's nice.

It makes you wonder when OCNet was incorporated into the National Guard, doesn't it? 

Something like that...
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« Reply #66 on: March 19, 2014, 12:13:03 PM »

A Christian can't be in the military in America.  It requires that all military swear an oath.   Jesus commanded us not to swear.

What if they render the oath in the form of a question and you just say yes or no?    Roll Eyes

hehe, it's either an oath or its not.  Like if they say "do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth" and you say "yes", you took an oath.

In this case the military at least here in America they raise their right hand and recite.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY3MlR-NWig
(Being fair as this is supposed to be a "pretty video" or inspiring)


What other things that Jesus said do you take so literally? 

Well you know some of them already... not calling any man master for one.

But along with that,

Love your enemies.
Turn the other cheek.
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Man can not live on bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of god.
Before Abraham was born I AM.

I really take everything he says as literal.  Be there parable, I literally accept the parable as it applies in symbolism.  Such as the prodigal son being symbolic of repentance to our father in heaven.
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« Reply #67 on: March 19, 2014, 12:43:52 PM »

What other things that Jesus said do you take so literally?  

Well you know some of them already... not calling any man master for one.

But along with that,

Love your enemies.
Turn the other cheek.
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Man can not live on bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of god.
Before Abraham was born I AM.

I really take everything he says as literal.  

But not "...on this Rock I will build my Church" or "If he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector" or "This is my body" or "Behold your mother" or "God is God of the living, not of the dead" or "He who believes and is baptised will be saved", and so on.  
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« Reply #68 on: March 19, 2014, 12:53:28 PM »

What other things that Jesus said do you take so literally?  

Well you know some of them already... not calling any man master for one.

But along with that,

Love your enemies.
Turn the other cheek.
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Man can not live on bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of god.
Before Abraham was born I AM.

I really take everything he says as literal.  

But not "...on this Rock I will build my Church" or "If he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector" or "This is my body" or "Behold your mother" or "God is God of the living, not of the dead" or "He who believes and is baptised will be saved", and so on.  

Picky, picky, picky....
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