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« on: July 27, 2011, 11:07:14 PM »

27 July 2011

The Holy Synod of the Russian Church has blessed a Service for the
consolation of the families of suicides

http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/1587143.html

The text of the Service is here:

http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/1586949.html

(Both these sites are in Russian)

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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2011, 11:24:19 PM »

Any hope a certain hieromonk fluent in Church Slavonic and English might prepare a worthy translation?

I'd hate to have to use Google Translate...   Sad



27 July 2011

The Holy Synod of the Russian Church has blessed a Service for the
consolation of the families of suicides

http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/1587143.html

The text of the Service is here:

http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/1586949.html

(Both these sites are in Russian)


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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2011, 11:41:51 PM »

Any hope a certain hieromonk fluent in Church Slavonic and English might prepare a worthy translation?

I'd hate to have to use Google Translate...   Sad



Give it a few hours and I'm sure we'll see an official translation.  laugh
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2011, 11:46:17 PM »

Of course the Russian Church Abroad already has available a beautiful and compunctionate "Akathist for the repose for those who have fallen asleep" in which we pray for suicides and other souls in peril. It was printed in Orthodox Life, Vol 6, No. 5, Sept-Oct.,1955, p. 3-11.

This is from Ikos 5:

And we believe that even beyond the grave Thy loving kindness, which is merciful even
to all rejected sinners, does not fail. We grieve for hardened and wicked blasphemers of
Thy Holiness. May Thy saving and gracious will be over them. Forgive, O Lord, those
who have died without repentance.

Save those who have committed suicide in the darkness of their mind,
that the flame of their sinfulness may be extinguished in the ocean of Thy grace.


O Lord of unutterable Love, remember Thy servants who have fallen asleep.



I am sending herewith the whole Akathist as an attachment.
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2011, 10:31:26 AM »

IF the bishop has proof that the suicide lost his/her mind  (psychosis, death from drinking/drug use), then that person may be given proper burial according to the normal rite.
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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2011, 01:08:39 AM »

Of course the Russian Church Abroad already has available a beautiful and compunctionate "Akathist for the repose for those who have fallen asleep" in which we pray for suicides and other souls in peril. It was printed in Orthodox Life, Vol 6, No. 5, Sept-Oct.,1955, p. 3-11.

This is from Ikos 5:

And we believe that even beyond the grave Thy loving kindness, which is merciful even
to all rejected sinners, does not fail. We grieve for hardened and wicked blasphemers of
Thy Holiness. May Thy saving and gracious will be over them. Forgive, O Lord, those
who have died without repentance.

Save those who have committed suicide in the darkness of their mind,
that the flame of their sinfulness may be extinguished in the ocean of Thy grace.


O Lord of unutterable Love, remember Thy servants who have fallen asleep.



I am sending herewith the whole Akathist as an attachment.


Father, I have grown very grateful to the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia, over the last several weeks, on account of this Akathis. 
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2011, 10:40:49 PM »

Irish posted:
27 July 2011
The Holy Synod of the Russian Church has blessed a Service for the
consolation of the families of suicides
text of the Service is here:
http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/1586949.html



My cousin has just committed suicide, and I would like to know:  does anyone here know of an ENGLISH translation of this text?
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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2011, 11:34:40 PM »

Fr Mark - so sorry to hear this. May their memory be eternal.
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2011, 02:23:13 AM »

May your cousin's memory be eternal, father.

I dropped the text into Google Translate and it seems most of the texts are hymns taken from other various services. I looked up the proper English translations for the hymns and assembled it together (below).

I don't speak Russian or Slavonic, so somebody would have to translate the prayer, however. You might try the Language Forum here on OC.Net. From what I can tell, though, it would appear to be a very sad prayer, begging the Lord for mercy for the deceased and healing for the hearts of the living.

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Blessed is our God...

Trisagion through Our Father.

Alleluia, tone 6.

Verse 1: O Lord, rebuke me not in thine anger, / neither chasten me in thy hot displeasure. [Ps. 6:1]

Verse 2: Have mercy upon me, O Lord; / for I am weak. [Ps. 6:2]

Troparion: Have mercy on us, O Lord, have mercy on us... [the Penitential Troparia]

Glory: O Lord, have mercy on us...

Now and ever: The doors of compassion...

Psalm 50.

And this antiphon, tone 3:

Verse: Have mercy upon us, O Lord, have mercy upon us: / for we are exceedingly filled with contempt. (Ps. 122:3)

O Heavenly Father, affectionate Lover of Mankind, be merciful, merciful, merciful to us, Thou who art patient with all, and wait for all. [Kontakion of St. Romanos on the Betrayal of Judas, 2nd Prelude]

Verse: The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. (Ps. 52:1)

O Heavenly Father, affectionate Lover of Mankind, be merciful, merciful, merciful to us, Thou who art patient with all, and wait for all.

Glory.

When thou sittest on Thy throne, O merciful Judge, and revealest Thy dread glory, O Christ, what fear there will be then! When the furnace burns with fire, and all shrink back in terror before Thy judgement-seat. [from Sunday of the Last Judgement Canon, Ode 8]

Now and ever.

We have no other help, we have no other hope, but thee, Most Holy Lady. Be thou our help, for we put our hope in thee, and in thee do we exalt, for we are thy servants; let us not be put to shame. [Kontakion of the Theotokos]

Let us pray to the Lord.

Lord, have mercy.

Prayer

Владыко, Господи, [Master, Lord,] Милостивый и Человеколюбивый, к Тебе взываем: согрешихом и беззаконновахом пред Тобою, преступихом спасительныя Твоя заповеди и любве евангельския отчаявшемуся брату нашему (отчаявшейся сестре нашей) не явихом. Но не яростию Твоею обличи ны, ниже гневом Твоим накажи ны, Человеколюбче Владыко, ослаби, исцели сердечную скорбь нашу, да победит множество щедрот Твоих грехов наших бездну, и Твоея безчисленныя благости пучина да покрыет горькое слез наших море.

Ей, Иисусе Сладчайший, еще молимтися, подаждь рабом Твоим, сродником живот свой самовольне скончавшаго, в скорби их утешение и на милость Твою твердое упование.

For Thou art a merciful God who lovest mankind, and unto Thee we ascribe glory, together with Thy Father and His All-holy, Good, and Life-giving Spirit, now and ever and unto ages of ages. Amen.

Wisdom. Most Holy Theotokos, save us.

More honorable than the Cherubim...

In the name of the Lord, Father, bless.

Small Dismissal.

Prayer of St Leo of Optina, to be read in secret

Remember, O Lord, the departed soul of Thy servant (name). If ye might, have mercy. Unsearchable are Thy judgments. Account not this my prayer as sin, but may Thy holy will be done.
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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2011, 07:48:32 PM »

Memory Eternal!
May his soul dwell with the blessed,and his memory shall be from generation to generation.
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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2011, 03:20:49 PM »

may God give you great comfort and peace, father mark.
i have a close friend who is a psychiatrist (and orthodox) who has researched this issue and believes many of the early church fathers had a much kinder approach to suicide victims than some of the recent church fathers.
i can ask him for references if any of you need them.
i am also particularly interested in this area, so am following this thread.

may God have mercy on all of us and give us peace and wisdom.
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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2011, 03:45:23 PM »

Any one able to translate this prayer yet?
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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2011, 02:50:01 PM »

Any one able to translate this prayer yet?


Not that I know of. I just now stumbled across this and remembered my priest was looking for something that might be like this. He's fluent, so if it's what he wants, he might do a translation. If he does, I'll post it here.
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« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2011, 04:04:53 PM »

Look at reply number three.
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