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Offline platypus

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doxology sandwich
« on: August 25, 2018, 12:01:18 PM »
I'm noticed occasionally in Church services the doxology is split up, like this:
Glory to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit...
[A different prayer inserted in the middle]
… both now and ever and unto ages of ages. Amen.

Does anyone know the purpose of splitting it up like this?
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Re: doxology sandwich
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2018, 01:01:07 PM »
This is the signal that a series of hymns, (stichera, troparia)  is coming to conclusion.  Depending on the service and the number of hymns specified the Doxology may or may not be split.
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Re: doxology sandwich
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2018, 01:19:19 PM »
This is one of those moments when the Byzantine Rite becomes so delightfully rich in ornamentation that no word other than Byzantine would do it justice (detractors might accuse us of being Baroque or even Rococco, but the difference is our layers of ornate liturgical charm are rich in theological substance, as opposed to being merely decorative).
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Re: doxology sandwich
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2018, 01:28:47 PM »
I thought this thread was going to be about an actual sandwich.
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Re: doxology sandwich
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2018, 10:35:38 AM »
Thanks, everyone!

I thought this thread was going to be about an actual sandwich.

I'm sorry to disappoint :laugh:
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Re: doxology sandwich
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2018, 10:49:12 AM »
I'm noticed occasionally in Church services the doxology is split up, like this:
Glory to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit...
[A different prayer inserted in the middle]
… both now and ever and unto ages of ages. Amen.

Does anyone know the purpose of splitting it up like this?
Are you referring to the Great Doxology that we sing at the end of Orthros?

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Re: doxology sandwich
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2018, 11:57:03 AM »
I thought this thread was going to be about an actual sandwich.

Indeed.  For a gourmand and amateur liturgiologist like myself, a Doxology Sandwich sounds pretty good.

One nice thing about the Orthodox Church is the tasty food we often have after the Divine Liturgy.  No sir, no Protestant-minimalist stale Costco Muffins and Instant Coffee for the Orthodox!

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Then, after the Qurbono and coffee that is surely a product of Heaven, one can then drive a short distance to DuPars, the greatest coffee shop in the known universe (they had, and I assume/hope, they still have, a location on Ventura Boulevard in addition to their storied Farmers’ Market location.
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Re: doxology sandwich
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2018, 12:09:23 PM »
I'm noticed occasionally in Church services the doxology is split up, like this:
Glory to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit...
[A different prayer inserted in the middle]
… both now and ever and unto ages of ages. Amen.

Does anyone know the purpose of splitting it up like this?
Are you referring to the Great Doxology that we sing at the end of Orthros?

No, I'm talking about the small doxology. An example is from Great Compline, in between the Prayer of Mannasses and the Psalms:

Glory to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit.
Lord have mercy on us; for we have hoped in Thee, be not angry with us greatly, neither remember our iniquities; but look upon us now as Thou art compassionate, and deliver us from our enemies, for Thou art our God, and we, Thy people; all are the works of Thy hands, and we call upon Thy name.
Both now and ever and unto ages. Amen.
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