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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #45 on: April 26, 2017, 09:10:37 AM »
I completely agree with all of your three quotes, but what about wife, don't you want to have your own wife or you prefer to be lonely all life?
I honestly dont know. I understand if someone wants a wife. If someone truly wants that kind of love. I just find it hard with the idea of children.

I see, I too don't want children.
I am not a Good person to get advice from at this subject. I am really quite sad and ashamed that I feel this way. It is just that I it seems to me that most people get Children for selfish reasons. Like they havent thought through it. John Piper for example said that he knew that there is a great chance that some of his children are among the un-elect, born only to be tortured forever. Now he knew this even before he decided tohave children. Yet he said he would rejoice in God's decision to torture his Children because it would glorify God. What kind of a sick bastard gives birth to a child and then says something like this? In my opinion, eastern christianity is the only acceptable version of christianity. The rest has some thoughts that are down right sick and evil IMO.

Good we are both eastern orthodox christians. My priest is accepting the idea that everybody get what he deserves. Nobody never get something unless he deserve it. I mean God is protecting all of his people. And there is nobody elected if he is not good person.
I think people who want to have children are normal people with the idea to raise this children, but I am not supporting this idea I have too many things that are against having children of myself of course. But marriage yes I like this idea. I support with all my soul the marriage of two God's people. I deny calvinism too.
I guess that is true. Your priest is right. We get what we deserve in the end. There is nothing wrong with having children... It is just that... Well, you are forced to live even if you haven't chosen it yourself. And not just to live a temporal life. You are forced to live forever and you are demanded to get well from the sickness(sinfulness) that you are born with unless you want to be punished forever. The problem I have with children is that I just see my own life. I didn't choose to be born, and if I would have had a choice in the matter, I would have said no to the offer I think. Honestly. I wouldn't want to be FORCED to live forever, and I don't want to force that on someone else, which is what I do if I have children.

Here is some reasons I don't want to have children:

1. My wife will be very ugly with big belly.
2. She will love somebody else than only me as it must be.
3. She will take care of somebody else than only me as it must be.
4. She will not spend 100% of her time for me. /I don't want my wife to leave me for even 5 minutes!/
5. I don't want to have somebody from my blood I want to be only me. Or blood of my wife. Our blood must be together and only we must be alive from our blood.
6. She will talk to somebody else than only me as it must be!

I must say I won't marry her if she have been talked to some other male in her all life.
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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #46 on: April 26, 2017, 09:56:23 AM »
But for sure I can add that God have Holy Powers that can prevent some things happen.
So if she is pure as it must be God will protect her of all things that can prevent me from wanting her for marriage.

Because His name is Lord Sabaoth which means Lord of Powers.
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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #47 on: April 26, 2017, 11:20:24 AM »
But beebert I generally don't want children because I want to live alone with my wife.
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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #48 on: April 26, 2017, 03:00:01 PM »
I must say I won't marry her if she have been talked to some other male in her all life.
You may change your mind once you meet her.

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Here is some reasons I don't want to have children:

1. My wife will be very ugly with big belly.
2. She will love somebody else than only me as it must be.
3. She will take care of somebody else than only me as it must be.
4. She will not spend 100% of her time for me. /I don't want my wife to leave me for even 5 minutes!/
5. I don't want to have somebody from my blood I want to be only me. Or blood of my wife. Our blood must be together and only we must be alive from our blood.
6. She will talk to somebody else than only me as it must be!
You may change your mind once you meet your baby.
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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #49 on: April 26, 2017, 03:26:08 PM »
But beebert I generally don't want children because I want to live alone with my wife.
There is nothing wrong with wanting Children my friend :)

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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #50 on: April 26, 2017, 05:59:37 PM »
I completely agree with all of your three quotes, but what about wife, don't you want to have your own wife or you prefer to be lonely all life?
I honestly dont know. I understand if someone wants a wife. If someone truly wants that kind of love. I just find it hard with the idea of children.

I see, I too don't want children.
I am not a Good person to get advice from at this subject. I am really quite sad and ashamed that I feel this way. It is just that I it seems to me that most people get Children for selfish reasons. Like they havent thought through it. John Piper for example said that he knew that there is a great chance that some of his children are among the un-elect, born only to be tortured forever. Now he knew this even before he decided tohave children. Yet he said he would rejoice in God's decision to torture his Children because it would glorify God. What kind of a sick bastard gives birth to a child and then says something like this? In my opinion, eastern christianity is the only acceptable version of christianity. The rest has some thoughts that are down right sick and evil IMO.

Good we are both eastern orthodox christians. My priest is accepting the idea that everybody get what he deserves. Nobody never get something unless he deserve it. I mean God is protecting all of his people. And there is nobody elected if he is not good person.
I think people who want to have children are normal people with the idea to raise this children, but I am not supporting this idea I have too many things that are against having children of myself of course. But marriage yes I like this idea. I support with all my soul the marriage of two God's people. I deny calvinism too.
I guess that is true. Your priest is right. We get what we deserve in the end. There is nothing wrong with having children... It is just that... Well, you are forced to live even if you haven't chosen it yourself. And not just to live a temporal life. You are forced to live forever and you are demanded to get well from the sickness(sinfulness) that you are born with unless you want to be punished forever. The problem I have with children is that I just see my own life. I didn't choose to be born, and if I would have had a choice in the matter, I would have said no to the offer I think. Honestly. I wouldn't want to be FORCED to live forever, and I don't want to force that on someone else, which is what I do if I have children.

Here is some reasons I don't want to have children:

1. My wife will be very ugly with big belly.
2. She will love somebody else than only me as it must be.
3. She will take care of somebody else than only me as it must be.
4. She will not spend 100% of her time for me. /I don't want my wife to leave me for even 5 minutes!/
5. I don't want to have somebody from my blood I want to be only me. Or blood of my wife. Our blood must be together and only we must be alive from our blood.
6. She will talk to somebody else than only me as it must be!

I must say I won't marry her if she have been talked to some other male in her all life.
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I hope this is some sort of Eastern European humor that is just going over my head...
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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #51 on: April 26, 2017, 07:01:54 PM »
I must say I won't marry her if she have been talked to some other male in her all life.
You may change your mind once you meet her.

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Here is some reasons I don't want to have children:

1. My wife will be very ugly with big belly.
2. She will love somebody else than only me as it must be.
3. She will take care of somebody else than only me as it must be.
4. She will not spend 100% of her time for me. /I don't want my wife to leave me for even 5 minutes!/
5. I don't want to have somebody from my blood I want to be only me. Or blood of my wife. Our blood must be together and only we must be alive from our blood.
6. She will talk to somebody else than only me as it must be!
You may change your mind once you meet your baby.

God forbid.
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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #52 on: April 26, 2017, 09:50:02 PM »
I hope this is some sort of Eastern European humor that is just going over my head...
This is what I thought when I went to my second Divine Liturgy and saw this guy with a crown in the middle of the church (whom I latter found to be our archbishop).
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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #53 on: April 27, 2017, 02:33:26 AM »
But beebert I generally don't want children because I want to live alone with my wife.
There is nothing wrong with wanting Children my friend :)

Well, if you want Ok, I just don't want, dear friend ;)

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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #54 on: April 27, 2017, 07:49:16 AM »
But beebert I generally don't want children because I want to live alone with my wife.
There is nothing wrong with wanting Children my friend :)

Also about topic of wife, I have been talked to one girl that I like.
She was about 19 years old and was in church that I was visiting I don't like to visit churches anymore, there is too many people I don't like.

She walked and get touched to me with her body when I was buying candles. There was no one who to sell to us so we just leave the money and get them. Then inside the church before she fire the candle she look at me, I was next to her and she say: "Hello". I say Hello.
Then I got to sit down in the church and I look back she was looking at me without move his body. I wave my hand and smile at her and say Hello. And she say hello with all her love I feel it to the deep of my soul. But I never seen her again. Maybe only one time when she was rebuke one driver of car.

I seen her instead of praying before icons she just nod to them I think she is very good believer.

Also I am not get the idea of not having children from your comments. I have decided this before months when I was thinking for marriage.
I prefer to not marry than to marry and have children.
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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #55 on: April 27, 2017, 11:43:23 PM »
But beebert I generally don't want children because I want to live alone with my wife.
There is nothing wrong with wanting Children my friend :)

Also about topic of wife, I have been talked to one girl that I like.
She was about 19 years old and was in church that I was visiting I don't like to visit churches anymore, there is too many people I don't like.

She walked and get touched to me with her body when I was buying candles. There was no one who to sell to us so we just leave the money and get them. Then inside the church before she fire the candle she look at me, I was next to her and she say: "Hello". I say Hello.
Then I got to sit down in the church and I look back she was looking at me without move his body. I wave my hand and smile at her and say Hello. And she say hello with all her love I feel it to the deep of my soul. But I never seen her again. Maybe only one time when she was rebuke one driver of car.

I seen her instead of praying before icons she just nod to them I think she is very good believer.

Also I am not get the idea of not having children from your comments. I have decided this before months when I was thinking for marriage.
I prefer to not marry than to marry and have children.
Is this the steamy romance novel section of the forum?
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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #56 on: April 27, 2017, 11:46:42 PM »
But beebert I generally don't want children because I want to live alone with my wife.
There is nothing wrong with wanting Children my friend :)

Also about topic of wife, I have been talked to one girl that I like.
She was about 19 years old and was in church that I was visiting I don't like to visit churches anymore, there is too many people I don't like.

She walked and get touched to me with her body when I was buying candles. There was no one who to sell to us so we just leave the money and get them. Then inside the church before she fire the candle she look at me, I was next to her and she say: "Hello". I say Hello.
Then I got to sit down in the church and I look back she was looking at me without move his body. I wave my hand and smile at her and say Hello. And she say hello with all her love I feel it to the deep of my soul. But I never seen her again. Maybe only one time when she was rebuke one driver of car.

I seen her instead of praying before icons she just nod to them I think she is very good believer.

Also I am not get the idea of not having children from your comments. I have decided this before months when I was thinking for marriage.
I prefer to not marry than to marry and have children.
Is this the steamy romance novel section of the forum?

I automatically read it in a South Indian accent.  Whatever steam there was quickly dissipated thereafter.
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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #57 on: April 28, 2017, 12:00:29 AM »
But beebert I generally don't want children because I want to live alone with my wife.
There is nothing wrong with wanting Children my friend :)

Also about topic of wife, I have been talked to one girl that I like.
She was about 19 years old and was in church that I was visiting I don't like to visit churches anymore, there is too many people I don't like.

She walked and get touched to me with her body when I was buying candles. There was no one who to sell to us so we just leave the money and get them. Then inside the church before she fire the candle she look at me, I was next to her and she say: "Hello". I say Hello.
Then I got to sit down in the church and I look back she was looking at me without move his body. I wave my hand and smile at her and say Hello. And she say hello with all her love I feel it to the deep of my soul. But I never seen her again. Maybe only one time when she was rebuke one driver of car.

I seen her instead of praying before icons she just nod to them I think she is very good believer.

Also I am not get the idea of not having children from your comments. I have decided this before months when I was thinking for marriage.
I prefer to not marry than to marry and have children.

lol If it was proper English, this could've been a bestselling romance novel.
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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #58 on: April 28, 2017, 04:07:58 AM »
This was example from my experience.

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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #59 on: April 29, 2017, 01:29:31 AM »
Absurd is that I have been talking to girls that never was virgins and I was thinking they are virgins. They never said else. Only one of them but I was not believe her but then it happened something very strange. I seen on skype something unusual and then I stop talking to her I was scared.
Because I have enough nightmares of this two girls they was talking about them, that they are fornicators and then I understand my nightmares was right. I never in my life will touch girl that is not a virgin and not pure and talked to somebody else than me.
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« Reply #60 on: April 29, 2017, 01:56:46 AM »
Huh. Cause I was having nightmares about you not being a virgin. But now that I read these recent few posts of yours, I feel my fears were unfounded.
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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #61 on: April 29, 2017, 02:14:03 AM »
One of them the daughter of the priest was thinking she is perfect righteous and the other one inform me that she will marry vladimir putin.
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« Reply #62 on: April 29, 2017, 03:00:01 AM »
You go to church with Alina Kabaeva?
"Love ... is an abyss of illumination, a mountain of fire ... . It is the condition of angels, the progress of eternity" (Climacus).

Yes we who are far from sainthood we can recognize a living saint and I'm talking from personal experience.Yes they are gentle soo gentle it can not be described it is like gentleness and humility in one and also they have this light this energy it's beyond words...and when you are

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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #63 on: April 29, 2017, 03:01:52 AM »
I don't have girlfriend.
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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #64 on: April 29, 2017, 03:50:40 AM »
I prefer to go with male to church.
I dreamed before years that I go to church with the leader of illuminati. He was at my age and was very dark person. Extremely dark. All darkness in the world was in him. Same like antichirst.
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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #65 on: April 30, 2017, 09:05:50 AM »
I think most of the people in the church can't be saved because Jesus say that only few will be saved.
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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #66 on: April 30, 2017, 10:56:10 AM »
I think most of the people in the church can't be saved because Jesus say that only few will be saved.
I dont think we know how many will be saved in the end

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« Reply #67 on: May 01, 2017, 12:21:35 AM »
I think most of the people in the church can't be saved because Jesus say that only few will be saved.

Is this the Jesus that said, "God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved," and,"The Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost"?
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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #68 on: May 01, 2017, 03:33:11 AM »
It was not Jesus but Isaiah and Paul: Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:.

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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #69 on: May 01, 2017, 03:48:55 AM »
It was not Jesus but Isaiah and Paul: Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:.
Yes. Life is hopeless and we are all doomed. When Jesus Said to Judas that it would have been better if he was never born, he spoke an eternal truth. It would have been better if man was never created in the first place. Now that is the conclusion one can make out of wetern christianity at least. Just look at the negative view of life in the west: A newborn baby is Born with guilt and deserves hell just for being Born.
In the east: THe Child belongs to heaven and its angels always sees God's face.
The West of today is inspired by three evils: The catholic church, which sold its soul to the devil in the middle ages. Luther, who admitted that he didnt know the difference between God and the Devil. And Calvin, who behaved like if he was the devil incarnated. If Everything is fixed and determined and we can't even Hope and pray for the salvation of all and Believe that our prayers can make a difference, then christianity turns Into nothing but pessimism or nihilism of a different kind.
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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #70 on: May 01, 2017, 05:16:58 AM »
Let me recommend the excellent non-Christian (technically speaking) yet very redemptive philosophy of Albert Camus. Judging from some of your posts I think you would like Camus very much. He was definitely a Life-affirmer. One of my favorites quotes of his is: "The most important thing you do every day you live is deciding not to kill yourself."

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,64056.msg1267012.html#msg1267012


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« Reply #71 on: May 01, 2017, 05:53:21 AM »
It was not Jesus but Isaiah and Paul: Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:.
Yes. Life is hopeless and we are all doomed. When Jesus Said to Judas that it would have been better if he was never born, he spoke an eternal truth. It would have been better if man was never created in the first place. Now that is the conclusion one can make out of wetern christianity at least. Just look at the negative view of life in the west: A newborn baby is Born with guilt and deserves hell just for being Born.
In the east: THe Child belongs to heaven and its angels always sees God's face.
The West of today is inspired by three evils: The catholic church, which sold its soul to the devil in the middle ages. Luther, who admitted that he didnt know the difference between God and the Devil. And Calvin, who behaved like if he was the devil incarnated. If Everything is fixed and determined and we can't even Hope and pray for the salvation of all and Believe that our prayers can make a difference, then christianity turns Into nothing but pessimism or nihilism of a different kind.

According to what I have learnt those months many people have hope for salvation. But in the church there is many evil people.
I don't try to condemn the whole church. Because we already have saints.
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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #72 on: May 01, 2017, 05:58:33 AM »
Yes I think that the christianity is true and that we suffer only to get reward for it, of course if we are not in hell.

We struggle to be closer to Christ, and in union with Him. Far from Christ and true love, which is Him, is suffering :)
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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #73 on: May 01, 2017, 06:03:05 AM »
Let me recommend the excellent non-Christian (technically speaking) yet very redemptive philosophy of Albert Camus. Judging from some of your posts I think you would like Camus very much. He was definitely a Life-affirmer. One of my favorites quotes of his is: "The most important thing you do every day you live is deciding not to kill yourself."

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Thanks. Yes I have read two of his more famous works: The Myth Of Sisyphus and The Stranger. Both excellent Works. They had a great impact on me.He saw the problems of nihilism and he understood the value of Personality and every single individual life. Therefore I personally consider him a greater Christian than many who call themselves Christians But happily condemn others to hell for God's glory. Just as long as they are themselves saved.
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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #74 on: May 01, 2017, 06:27:14 AM »
Let me recommend the excellent non-Christian (technically speaking) yet very redemptive philosophy of Albert Camus. Judging from some of your posts I think you would like Camus very much. He was definitely a Life-affirmer. One of my favorites quotes of his is: "The most important thing you do every day you live is deciding not to kill yourself."

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,64056.msg1267012.html#msg1267012


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Thanks. Yes I have read two of his more famous works: The Myth Of Sisyphus and The Stranger. Both excellent Works. They had a great impact on me.He saw the problems of nihilism and he understood the value of Personality and every single individual life. Therefore I personally consider him a greater Christian than many who call themselves Christians But happily condemn others to hell for God's glory. Just as long as they are themselves saved.

Amen. I agree completely.

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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #75 on: May 01, 2017, 01:43:05 PM »
It was not Jesus but Isaiah and Paul: Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:.

Is this the Paul who said, "And so all Israel shall be saved"?

And the Isaiah that prophesied the very ends of the earth should all be drawn to the Lord and forever keep his sabbatths?
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"Love ... is an abyss of illumination, a mountain of fire ... . It is the condition of angels, the progress of eternity" (Climacus).

Yes we who are far from sainthood we can recognize a living saint and I'm talking from personal experience.Yes they are gentle soo gentle it can not be described it is like gentleness and humility in one and also they have this light this energy it's beyond words...and when you are

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Re: Life is absurd
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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #77 on: May 01, 2017, 02:03:38 PM »
We don't know how many will be saved. Some scriptures indicate only a few will be saved. But others indicate that many and hopefully even all will be saved. We don't know. Of course there is a great possibility unfortunately that many will not be saved, but we must nevertheless hope and pray for all. That I consider to be one of the greatest duties for a christian. To not be exclusive but inclusive.

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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #78 on: May 02, 2017, 02:54:24 AM »
We don't know how many will be saved. Some scriptures indicate only a few will be saved. But others indicate that many and hopefully even all will be saved. We don't know. Of course there is a great possibility unfortunately that many will not be saved, but we must nevertheless hope and pray for all. That I consider to be one of the greatest duties for a christian. To not be exclusive but inclusive.

Everything good in life is limited. Cost time. And it is hard to reach it.

Same as finding person for marriage. Same as become rich. Same as get to heaven which way is very hard. But if you do all what you want and act against law of eternal God you can't get saved.
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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #79 on: May 02, 2017, 03:58:10 AM »
We don't know how many will be saved. Some scriptures indicate only a few will be saved. But others indicate that many and hopefully even all will be saved. We don't know. Of course there is a great possibility unfortunately that many will not be saved, but we must nevertheless hope and pray for all. That I consider to be one of the greatest duties for a christian. To not be exclusive but inclusive.
But if you do all what you want and act against law of eternal God you can't get saved.
Unless you repent :)

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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #80 on: May 02, 2017, 11:20:42 AM »
We don't know how many will be saved. Some scriptures indicate only a few will be saved. But others indicate that many and hopefully even all will be saved. We don't know. Of course there is a great possibility unfortunately that many will not be saved, but we must nevertheless hope and pray for all. That I consider to be one of the greatest duties for a christian. To not be exclusive but inclusive.

Everything good in life is limited. Cost time. And it is hard to reach it.

Same as finding person for marriage. Same as become rich. Same as get to heaven which way is very hard. But if you do all what you want and act against law of eternal God you can't get saved.

Getting rich, finding wives, gaining heaven. Hmm. One of these is not like the other. But the fact is all good is a gift from the God who loves and favors mankind, and is freely given. "Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning." "For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him? Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them."
"Love ... is an abyss of illumination, a mountain of fire ... . It is the condition of angels, the progress of eternity" (Climacus).

Yes we who are far from sainthood we can recognize a living saint and I'm talking from personal experience.Yes they are gentle soo gentle it can not be described it is like gentleness and humility in one and also they have this light this energy it's beyond words...and when you are

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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #81 on: May 04, 2017, 06:02:56 AM »
Humankind is image of his creator but they are not immortal like angels. The purpose of humankind is to become immortal.

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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #82 on: May 07, 2017, 10:44:20 AM »
There is good things in life. There was one local for our country "christian" forum.

I made 6 quotes in christian spirit. And then they delete my profile and delete my quotes.

Now since 4 days their forum is suspended by their hosting company.
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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #83 on: May 08, 2017, 12:26:40 AM »
There is good things in life. There was one local for our country "christian" forum.

I made 6 quotes in christian spirit. And then they delete my profile and delete my quotes.

Now since 4 days their forum is suspended by their hosting company.

Bad for both sides makes a good?
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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #84 on: May 08, 2017, 05:29:00 AM »
For me this is good.

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Re: Life is absurd
« Reply #85 on: May 08, 2017, 08:59:04 AM »
I dont know if I am alone in feeling and experienicing this. But isnt life somewhat absurd? I mean really just absurd... I am often tempted by thinking that there is nothing to this life. That everything is completely meaningless, created out of nothing, just a chance. That Suffering is meaningless. Everything meaningless. Just a blind mechanism... If Christ isnt the one he Said he was then life is completely absurd and meaningless. Sometimes it feels like the Only true reason I dont kill myself is because christianity is probably true

The First Noble Truth: Life is Absurd.
The Second Noble Truth: The Reason Life is Absurd is because we live Absurdly.
The Third Noble Truth: We can live free of Absurdity.
The Fourth Noble Truth: There is a Path to living free of Absurdity, the Noble Path of Eight Parts.

The Noble Path of Eight Parts:
1. Noble View: Galatians 6:7
2. Noble Intention: Mark 12:30-31
3. Noble Speech: Matthew 15:11
4. Noble Actions: Luke 18:20
5. Noble Livelihood: Luke 4:18
6. Noble Effort: Matthew 11:12
7. Noble Mindfulness: Mark 13:35
8. Noble Concentration: 1 Thessalonians 5:17
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