But who was it that recorded that statement? HINT: He was also an apostle.
On what authority do we have it that Jesus is God?
Also, in some contexts, 'Master' can mean 'Teacher.'
Just throwing that out there.
Rabbi means teacher too.
We are not supposed to call anybody these. God told us so.
Yeshua said that he was God.
"Before Abraham was born I AM"
Yes, John was an Apostle. The beloved.
Who was it that said "Call no man rabbi, father, or master"? HINT: He was part of the Trinity.
Who calls people "Father and Master"? HINT: It's a church that claims its the one true church.
Who washed your feet last in your church as God commanded?
Who's hand do you venerate as a non-equal brethren?
When is the last time you bishop washed your feet as a brother?
When was the last time you kissed up to your bishop as if he was something overwhelmingly special?
Which apostle venerated images of the likeness of things on heaven and earth?
Which church plays like your veneration is like "beaming up" your veneration to the person "represented"?
What did God tell you not to make in the 1st commandment?
What is an iconostasis and what apostle did that?
What "father" do you confess your sins to? Or do you to it to "one another" as commanded?
When you pray before meals do you thank God in your prayer as taught by God?
Which table of oblation did Christ use again in the last supper?
When did Christ or any apostle venerate Mary?
You people act as though I'm nuts.
I'm not the one kissing paint and wood that was "blessed" by a "father" bowing and crossing myself thinking it makes any difference. I'm just here telling you the iconostasis did NOT exist, nor the structure of the church as you know it to the original apostles.
I'm here saying the orignal apostles are our brethren, and that's how God set it up.
It is my firm belief that Eastern Orthodoxy is merely a dogma laced morph of the beautiful early church that once existed. Just because you call these guys saints (such as James) and label him a patriarch, doesn't mean that's really what he was. He was our brother, our brethren.
All this fluff is just a bunch of OCD superstition of the once beautiful church that existed.
I mean.. ya know... Everybody has a halo. Uh huh....
Early Christianity was a lot more Jewish than most of you can imagine. There was no
2) Veneration of hands.
3) Worries of apostolic succession.
4) 80,000 pieces of dogma and procedure.
5) Communion was more of a passover meal, not some huge drawn out blessing in a consecrated altar behind an iconostasis with byzantine king garb.
If I'm wrong show me of the iconostasis in EARLY Christianity. 100-200 A.D.
If I'm wrong show me where everybody venerated icons in EARLY Christianity.
If I'm wrong show me all of the extreme dogma in EARLY Christianity.
If I'm wrong show me where confession was to a church "father" in EARLY Christianity.
So basically pipe out all the excuses and explanations.
The explanations to my questions are "The church evolved, and we kiss wood & paint because of...."
Too many excuses. Too many explanations. Even the "Patriarchs" are in ecumenism, which slaps Eastern Orthodox tradition in the face. But people make excuses and have explanations for that.
So explain to me again.
When GOD - not apostles - but GOD - yes YHWH, Yeshua, and the Holy Spirit says:
1) Call no man FATHER
2) Call no man Rabbi
3) Call no man MASTER
Why do the Eastern Orthodox Christians say: But because.... and this... and that..... this is why.... and "I'm messing with Texas"... and "You are ignorant".......
The bottom line is you are disobeying Yeshua, your God. He said NOT TO do it. No matter what theologian, priest, or church elder has made excuses for to disobey him.
I'm having trouble understanding the logic of many here. No means no. Not means not. Do not means "Do not".
GOD the top of all authority said: "DO NOT"
You say: "We can because so and so, and this and that".
So are you going to continue to DO what God said "DO NOT" to?