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Offline Xenia1918

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Question about Veganism, Health issues, and fasting
« on: July 04, 2011, 03:00:41 PM »
What do you do in the Orthodox Church during fasting times if you are normally a vegan (no animal products of any kind, including fish, seafood and honey), and if you a health problem that requires you to avoid anything more than a small amt of oil/high fat food and alcohol?

IOW I normally abstain from these things, so how would it be fasting for me to do it during Great Lent and other fasting times? Should I avoid something else in addition?
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Re: Question about Veganism, Health issues, and fasting
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2011, 03:06:10 PM »
This is something you need to speak to your priest about.

Often we consider fasting as the goal for certain times of year. Really, though, our goal for 'fasting' occasions is to grow more closely to the Lord and help work out our salvation. To learn how to love even more and to focus on God and learn how not to get caught up in the things of the world as much as we often are.

If in effect you already are fasting, there are other exercises that your priest can prescribe for you to help you to grow and to love others as well as God even more. But, the priest needs to know you and know what you are working with, in your physical, spiritual and emotional health.
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Re: Question about Veganism, Health issues, and fasting
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2011, 03:23:36 PM »
Thank you, Fr Chris!
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Re: Question about Veganism, Health issues, and fasting
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2011, 10:52:32 PM »
I have a friend who is practically eating nothing because of her health issue.  The important spiritual factor is to fast what comes out of our mouths(or in writing and thoughts) and not what goes in.  Even if a person fasts to the ultimate extreme, but isn't humble, then they have gained nothing in God's eyes.  It's a lifetime of repetence.  Fasting is about starving the ego, but nuritioning the soul.  But, I don't want to give a message  that you can eat what you want.  There are physical rules as a spiritual discipline, but we need to understand the difference.
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