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Consecration of Indian Orthodox Church
« on: July 02, 2014, 11:57:57 AM »
I wanted to share a video of the consecration service for the Indian Orthodox Church.

Part 1:   http://youtu.be/dPoeitLNIh0

Part 2:   http://youtu.be/zZHdOUdBfOA



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Re: Consecration of Indian Orthodox Church
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2014, 08:34:40 PM »
This is the first Indian Orthodox service I've ever seen where the hymns didn't prominently feature synth beats. A beautiful ceremony.
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Re: Consecration of Indian Orthodox Church
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2014, 09:33:45 PM »
This is the first Indian Orthodox service I've ever seen where the hymns didn't prominently feature synth beats. A beautiful ceremony.

There are more out there.  Hard to believe, I know.  :P
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Re: Consecration of Indian Orthodox Church
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2014, 09:45:53 PM »
This is the first Indian Orthodox service I've ever seen where the hymns didn't prominently feature synth beats. A beautiful ceremony.

There are more out there.  Hard to believe, I know.  :P

I've been to Indian Orthodox liturgy once. I was the only white guy in the room, I didn't realise it was gender-segregated and had to be asked to move, I couldn't understand anything, and it sounded like Bollywood. It was an unusual experience, to say the least.
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Re: Consecration of Indian Orthodox Church
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2014, 10:01:04 PM »
This is the first Indian Orthodox service I've ever seen where the hymns didn't prominently feature synth beats. A beautiful ceremony.

There are more out there.  Hard to believe, I know.  :P

I've been to Indian Orthodox liturgy once. I was the only white guy in the room, I didn't realise it was gender-segregated and had to be asked to move, I couldn't understand anything, and it sounded like Bollywood. It was an unusual experience, to say the least.

I feel that way too because I didn't grow up with any of that stuff in my parish. 
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Re: Consecration of Indian Orthodox Church
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2014, 10:05:12 PM »
This is the first Indian Orthodox service I've ever seen where the hymns didn't prominently feature synth beats. A beautiful ceremony.
Don't worry, it comes in midway through the first video.
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Re: Consecration of Indian Orthodox Church
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2014, 10:25:32 PM »
This is the first Indian Orthodox service I've ever seen where the hymns didn't prominently feature synth beats. A beautiful ceremony.
Don't worry, it comes in midway through the first video.

There's much worse out there.  This video is not bad at all.  I've been in Liturgies which were only missing the spinning platform, fake horses, lights, and mirrors. 
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Re: Consecration of Indian Orthodox Church
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2014, 10:36:18 PM »
This is the first Indian Orthodox service I've ever seen where the hymns didn't prominently feature synth beats. A beautiful ceremony.

I had a similar experience when I was searching for Indian Orthodox Services online.  I was very discouraged at finding that the most prominent videos were ones with heavy use of synthesizers.  I really had to search to find hymns that didn't contain any instruments. 

This is the first Indian Orthodox service I've ever seen where the hymns didn't prominently feature synth beats. A beautiful ceremony.

There are more out there.  Hard to believe, I know.  :P

I've been to Indian Orthodox liturgy once. I was the only white guy in the room, I didn't realise it was gender-segregated and had to be asked to move, I couldn't understand anything, and it sounded like Bollywood. It was an unusual experience, to say the least.

I am truly sorry you did not have a good experience during the liturgy.  I hope you get a chance to visit again where there is less use of "bollywood" style music and someone can help you understand what is happening.


I feel that way too because I didn't grow up with any of that stuff in my parish. 

I really wish that the use of keyboards and other instruments would be banned during the liturgy.  It is so easy to start using but It seems almost impossible to remove.  I find that it is so much more beautiful when done acapella.
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Re: Consecration of Indian Orthodox Church
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2014, 10:41:47 PM »

I feel that way too because I didn't grow up with any of that stuff in my parish. 

I really wish that the use of keyboards and other instruments would be banned during the liturgy.  It is so easy to start using but It seems almost impossible to remove.  I find that it is so much more beautiful when done acapella.

Generally, I agree, although I am willing to make an exception for Indian classical instruments.  I've attended a few services where the choir used those, and it was lovely.  But if you have to plug it into the wall, chances are I hate it. 
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Re: Consecration of Indian Orthodox Church
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2014, 10:42:41 PM »
I am truly sorry you did not have a good experience during the liturgy.  I hope you get a chance to visit again where there is less use of "bollywood" style music and someone can help you understand what is happening.

Oh, it wasn't a bad experience, just an unusual one. Everyone was very nice.
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Re: Consecration of Indian Orthodox Church
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2014, 11:01:12 PM »

Generally, I agree, although I am willing to make an exception for Indian classical instruments.  I've attended a few services where the choir used those, and it was lovely.  But if you have to plug it into the wall, chances are I hate it. 

If you have any links to videos or recordings of services using classical instruments, please share.  I would be very interested in listening to them.  I am going to to try searching for them.

Oh, it wasn't a bad experience, just an unusual one. Everyone was very nice.

I am glad to hear it wasn't a bad experience and that the people were nice. 
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Re: Consecration of Indian Orthodox Church
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2014, 08:31:13 AM »
Generally, I agree, although I am willing to make an exception for Indian classical instruments.  I've attended a few services where the choir used those, and it was lovely.  But if you have to plug it into the wall, chances are I hate it. 

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Re: Consecration of Indian Orthodox Church
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2014, 09:02:33 PM »

I feel that way too because I didn't grow up with any of that stuff in my parish. 

I really wish that the use of keyboards and other instruments would be banned during the liturgy.  It is so easy to start using but It seems almost impossible to remove.  I find that it is so much more beautiful when done acapella.

Generally, I agree, although I am willing to make an exception for Indian classical instruments.  I've attended a few services where the choir used those, and it was lovely.  But if you have to plug it into the wall, chances are I hate it. 
The church I will be attending in New York has a very traditional group of Byzantine psalti, they use an artificial ison throughout the service and it actually sounds great. I was very surprised.

As for good Syriac services (and in English!), these are awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R-btJYHl3I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWChywFF9eQ
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Re: Consecration of Indian Orthodox Church
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2014, 09:16:10 PM »

I feel that way too because I didn't grow up with any of that stuff in my parish. 

I really wish that the use of keyboards and other instruments would be banned during the liturgy.  It is so easy to start using but It seems almost impossible to remove.  I find that it is so much more beautiful when done acapella.

Generally, I agree, although I am willing to make an exception for Indian classical instruments.  I've attended a few services where the choir used those, and it was lovely.  But if you have to plug it into the wall, chances are I hate it. 
The church I will be attending in New York has a very traditional group of Byzantine psalti, they use an artificial ison throughout the service and it actually sounds great. I was very surprised.

As for good Syriac services (and in English!), these are awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R-btJYHl3I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWChywFF9eQ

Do you have a video or recording of that?  :)
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Re: Consecration of Indian Orthodox Church
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2014, 09:19:20 PM »

I feel that way too because I didn't grow up with any of that stuff in my parish. 

I really wish that the use of keyboards and other instruments would be banned during the liturgy.  It is so easy to start using but It seems almost impossible to remove.  I find that it is so much more beautiful when done acapella.

Generally, I agree, although I am willing to make an exception for Indian classical instruments.  I've attended a few services where the choir used those, and it was lovely.  But if you have to plug it into the wall, chances are I hate it. 
The church I will be attending in New York has a very traditional group of Byzantine psalti, they use an artificial ison throughout the service and it actually sounds great. I was very surprised.

As for good Syriac services (and in English!), these are awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R-btJYHl3I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWChywFF9eQ

Do you have a video or recording of that?  :)
Unfortunately I do not, however I may in the future! If you would like to use the ison yourself, you can purchase the app for the iPad for relatively cheap. I believe the name of the app is "World Scales" or something similar. The isons sound like a group of men doing it, very realistic.
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Re: Consecration of Indian Orthodox Church
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2014, 09:21:43 PM »

I feel that way too because I didn't grow up with any of that stuff in my parish. 

I really wish that the use of keyboards and other instruments would be banned during the liturgy.  It is so easy to start using but It seems almost impossible to remove.  I find that it is so much more beautiful when done acapella.

Generally, I agree, although I am willing to make an exception for Indian classical instruments.  I've attended a few services where the choir used those, and it was lovely.  But if you have to plug it into the wall, chances are I hate it. 
The church I will be attending in New York has a very traditional group of Byzantine psalti, they use an artificial ison throughout the service and it actually sounds great. I was very surprised.

As for good Syriac services (and in English!), these are awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R-btJYHl3I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWChywFF9eQ

Do you have a video or recording of that?  :)
Unfortunately I do not, however I may in the future! If you would like to use the ison yourself, you can purchase the app for the iPad for relatively cheap. I believe the name of the app is "World Scales" or something similar. The isons sound like a group of men doing it, very realistic.

I only have an ipod nano I don't really use since I got my Galaxy S4. I'll take your word for it though. Don't think I'll forget about that recording!  ;)  ;D
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Re: Consecration of Indian Orthodox Church
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2014, 09:27:07 PM »

I feel that way too because I didn't grow up with any of that stuff in my parish. 

I really wish that the use of keyboards and other instruments would be banned during the liturgy.  It is so easy to start using but It seems almost impossible to remove.  I find that it is so much more beautiful when done acapella.

Generally, I agree, although I am willing to make an exception for Indian classical instruments.  I've attended a few services where the choir used those, and it was lovely.  But if you have to plug it into the wall, chances are I hate it. 
The church I will be attending in New York has a very traditional group of Byzantine psalti, they use an artificial ison throughout the service and it actually sounds great. I was very surprised.

As for good Syriac services (and in English!), these are awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R-btJYHl3I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWChywFF9eQ

Do you have a video or recording of that?  :)
Unfortunately I do not, however I may in the future! If you would like to use the ison yourself, you can purchase the app for the iPad for relatively cheap. I believe the name of the app is "World Scales" or something similar. The isons sound like a group of men doing it, very realistic.

I only have an ipod nano I don't really use since I got my Galaxy S4. I'll take your word for it though. Don't think I'll forget about that recording!  ;)  ;D
I know of someone who may personally have a recording. I will inquire and get back to you--don't let me forget!  ;D
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