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Offline ilyazhito

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Jesus tempted by Satan: How would Miaphysites see this?
« on: July 01, 2011, 07:12:12 PM »
In Matthew 4, Satan tempts Jesus to turn stones to bread, to alleviate Jesus' hunger. Satan knows that Jesus is both human (He can feel hunger), and God (He can work miracles).
A Nestorian would see Satan tempting the human and divine Jesus separately, since they are two separate persons.
Chalcedonians would see this incident as proof that Jesus has both human and divine nature in one person.
How would moderate and extreme Miaphysites see this incident?

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Re: Jesus tempted by Satan: How would Miaphysites see this?
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2011, 07:17:35 PM »
In Matthew 4, Satan tempts Jesus to turn stones to bread, to alleviate Jesus' hunger. Satan knows that Jesus is both human (He can feel hunger), and God (He can work miracles).
A Nestorian would see Satan tempting the human and divine Jesus separately, since they are two separate persons.
Chalcedonians would see this incident as proof that Jesus has both human and divine nature in one person.
How would moderate and extreme Miaphysites see this incident?
Moderate and extreme Miaphysite? What's that? I don't think that there is such a thing as Moderate and Extreme Chalcedonians.
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Re: Jesus tempted by Satan: How would Miaphysites see this?
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2011, 07:23:59 PM »
Moderate: Those who believe that human and divine are united (difference in wording)
Extreme: Eutychians

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Re: Jesus tempted by Satan: How would Miaphysites see this?
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2011, 07:50:14 PM »
I can't speak for the Eutychians since I don't know any and they have nothing to do with my Church.

The Oriental Orthodox would look upon the temptation of Christ as satan tempting the Incarnate Word of God.

If you are trying to understand how we see the issue in terms of Christ's will, you may want to look at this thread:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,25645.0.html

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Re: Jesus tempted by Satan: How would Miaphysites see this?
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2011, 02:37:01 AM »
Moderate: Those who believe that human and divine are united (difference in wording)
Extreme: Eutychians

They are anathematized according to the Oriental Orthodox as far as I know, so it's not an extreme "miaphysite" position, rather a heretical one.

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Re: Jesus tempted by Satan: How would Miaphysites see this?
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2011, 05:08:48 PM »
Aren't Eutychians, who are not the Oriental Orthodox, the only true monophysites?

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Re: Jesus tempted by Satan: How would Miaphysites see this?
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2011, 06:07:06 PM »
I think Apollonarians are also called Monophysites.   

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Re: Jesus tempted by Satan: How would Miaphysites see this?
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2011, 02:06:37 AM »
Actually, I was always taught that Satan was unsure of Christ's divinity. He did not ever consider the fact that God could actually appear with such humility. Hence, Our Lord defeated Satan through the virtue of humility, the one virtue that he (satan) lacked while he was an archangel. He fell into the sin of pride as an archangel, ultimately leading to his fall from the heavens. Consider this: If Satan did really know that Christ was the Incarnate Word of God, then why would he ever possess Judas, and lead him to betraying Our Savior? If this was the case, we would say that Satan defeated himself, and not that Our Savior defeated him by his humility and death on the holy wood of the cross.

Same idea applies to the temptation of Christ. Had Satan indeed been sure of the Divinity of Christ, he would never have bothered to tempt him. The devil knows quite well that God is without sin, and this can never change. He tempted Christ while baffled, unsure of whether he was a prophet, or was he indeed the Logos of God.

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Re: Jesus tempted by Satan: How would Miaphysites see this?
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2011, 11:10:21 PM »
Satan may have known, but as God, Jesus was able to resist temptation.

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Re: Jesus tempted by Satan: How would Miaphysites see this?
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2011, 04:50:40 PM »
It was as incarnate that Christ resisted the temptation. Indeed it was necessary that one who was fully man resist the temptation, just as a man gave way to temptation.

Christ did not resist temptation in His Divine power, indeed God cannot be tempted at all. He resisted temptation as the incarnate Word of God, that is as man.
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Re: Jesus tempted by Satan: How would Miaphysites see this?
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2011, 05:31:41 PM »
Christ did not resist temptation in His Divine power, indeed God cannot be tempted at all. He resisted temptation as the incarnate Word of God, that is as man.

Amen.
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