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« Reply #135 on: July 13, 2011, 02:01:22 PM »

Since the CC's stance on artificial birth control is one of its most recognizable stances to many people, I wanted to comment on it.

I've known people who are active with the Couple to Couple League - Catholic Natural Family Planning organization. There are dioceses in my area whose bishops and priests absolutely refuse to allow any NFP literature to be put in parish literature racks. These bishops and priests also downright refuse to meet with the CCL people and refuse to allow NFP classes to be held at parishes.

Then there's the local cardinal archbishop who while he gives public lip service to the CC's stance on ABC and that couples to use NFP, he will do absolutely nothing to the priests who refuse to have themselves or their parishes associated with NFP in any way (no literature, classes, speakers). One woman tried to have a table at parish ministry fair, to hand out literature and answer questions. The priest told her it would not happen as long as he was there and to not bother to ask again.

Multiple Catholic friends across the US have told me that they are told in their pre-Cana (marriage prep) classes that yes, the CC only approves of NFP, but "you don't have to bother with that and you can use ABC if you want." This is by Church-approved teachers AND priests.
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« Reply #136 on: July 13, 2011, 02:06:22 PM »

Since the CC's stance on artificial birth control is one of its most recognizable stances to many people, I wanted to comment on it.

I've known people who are active with the Couple to Couple League - Catholic Natural Family Planning organization. There are dioceses in my area whose bishops and priests absolutely refuse to allow any NFP literature to be put in parish literature racks. These bishops and priests also downright refuse to meet with the CCL people and refuse to allow NFP classes to be held at parishes.

Then there's the local cardinal archbishop who while he gives public lip service to the CC's stance on ABC and that couples to use NFP, he will do absolutely nothing to the priests who refuse to have themselves or their parishes associated with NFP in any way (no literature, classes, speakers). One woman tried to have a table at parish ministry fair, to hand out literature and answer questions. The priest told her it would not happen as long as he was there and to not bother to ask again.

Multiple Catholic friends across the US have told me that they are told in their pre-Cana (marriage prep) classes that yes, the CC only approves of NFP, but "you don't have to bother with that and you can use ABC if you want." This is by Church-approved teachers AND priests.

That's right.  And this also explains why Father Ambrose can go to the USCCB and find data heavily freighted against Natural Family Planning.  But that does not stop young men and women from starting parish based classes and circumventing those pastors and bishops who think Humanae Vitae is bunko.

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« Reply #137 on: July 13, 2011, 02:33:57 PM »

Since the CC's stance on artificial birth control is one of its most recognizable stances to many people, I wanted to comment on it.

I've known people who are active with the Couple to Couple League - Catholic Natural Family Planning organization. There are dioceses in my area whose bishops and priests absolutely refuse to allow any NFP literature to be put in parish literature racks. These bishops and priests also downright refuse to meet with the CCL people and refuse to allow NFP classes to be held at parishes.

Then there's the local cardinal archbishop who while he gives public lip service to the CC's stance on ABC and that couples to use NFP, he will do absolutely nothing to the priests who refuse to have themselves or their parishes associated with NFP in any way (no literature, classes, speakers). One woman tried to have a table at parish ministry fair, to hand out literature and answer questions. The priest told her it would not happen as long as he was there and to not bother to ask again.

Multiple Catholic friends across the US have told me that they are told in their pre-Cana (marriage prep) classes that yes, the CC only approves of NFP, but "you don't have to bother with that and you can use ABC if you want." This is by Church-approved teachers AND priests.

That's right.  And this also explains why Father Ambrose can go to the USCCB and find data heavily freighted against Natural Family Planning.  But that does not stop young men and women from starting parish based classes and circumventing those pastors and bishops who think Humanae Vitae is bunko.


And, as you never tire of raising the hew and cry, such actions against your much vaunted "magisterium" is above their (the married great unwashed) pay grade.
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« Reply #138 on: July 13, 2011, 02:44:36 PM »

Since the CC's stance on artificial birth control is one of its most recognizable stances to many people, I wanted to comment on it.

I've known people who are active with the Couple to Couple League - Catholic Natural Family Planning organization. There are dioceses in my area whose bishops and priests absolutely refuse to allow any NFP literature to be put in parish literature racks. These bishops and priests also downright refuse to meet with the CCL people and refuse to allow NFP classes to be held at parishes.

Then there's the local cardinal archbishop who while he gives public lip service to the CC's stance on ABC and that couples to use NFP, he will do absolutely nothing to the priests who refuse to have themselves or their parishes associated with NFP in any way (no literature, classes, speakers). One woman tried to have a table at parish ministry fair, to hand out literature and answer questions. The priest told her it would not happen as long as he was there and to not bother to ask again.

Multiple Catholic friends across the US have told me that they are told in their pre-Cana (marriage prep) classes that yes, the CC only approves of NFP, but "you don't have to bother with that and you can use ABC if you want." This is by Church-approved teachers AND priests.

That's right.  And this also explains why Father Ambrose can go to the USCCB and find data heavily freighted against Natural Family Planning.  But that does not stop young men and women from starting parish based classes and circumventing those pastors and bishops who think Humanae Vitae is bunko.


And, as you never tire of raising the hew and cry, such actions against your much vaunted "magisterium" is above their (the married great unwashed) pay grade.

You make no sense here...What else is new?
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« Reply #139 on: July 13, 2011, 03:10:21 PM »

Since the CC's stance on artificial birth control is one of its most recognizable stances to many people, I wanted to comment on it.

I've known people who are active with the Couple to Couple League - Catholic Natural Family Planning organization. There are dioceses in my area whose bishops and priests absolutely refuse to allow any NFP literature to be put in parish literature racks. These bishops and priests also downright refuse to meet with the CCL people and refuse to allow NFP classes to be held at parishes.

Then there's the local cardinal archbishop who while he gives public lip service to the CC's stance on ABC and that couples to use NFP, he will do absolutely nothing to the priests who refuse to have themselves or their parishes associated with NFP in any way (no literature, classes, speakers). One woman tried to have a table at parish ministry fair, to hand out literature and answer questions. The priest told her it would not happen as long as he was there and to not bother to ask again.

Multiple Catholic friends across the US have told me that they are told in their pre-Cana (marriage prep) classes that yes, the CC only approves of NFP, but "you don't have to bother with that and you can use ABC if you want." This is by Church-approved teachers AND priests.

That's right.  And this also explains why Father Ambrose can go to the USCCB and find data heavily freighted against Natural Family Planning.  But that does not stop young men and women from starting parish based classes and circumventing those pastors and bishops who think Humanae Vitae is bunko.


And, as you never tire of raising the hew and cry, such actions against your much vaunted "magisterium" is above their (the married great unwashed) pay grade.

You make no sense here...What else is new?
Nothing new: I just repeated your old routine. That's why it doesn't make any sense.
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« Reply #140 on: July 13, 2011, 03:15:58 PM »

Since the CC's stance on artificial birth control is one of its most recognizable stances to many people, I wanted to comment on it.

I've known people who are active with the Couple to Couple League - Catholic Natural Family Planning organization. There are dioceses in my area whose bishops and priests absolutely refuse to allow any NFP literature to be put in parish literature racks. These bishops and priests also downright refuse to meet with the CCL people and refuse to allow NFP classes to be held at parishes.

Then there's the local cardinal archbishop who while he gives public lip service to the CC's stance on ABC and that couples to use NFP, he will do absolutely nothing to the priests who refuse to have themselves or their parishes associated with NFP in any way (no literature, classes, speakers). One woman tried to have a table at parish ministry fair, to hand out literature and answer questions. The priest told her it would not happen as long as he was there and to not bother to ask again.

Multiple Catholic friends across the US have told me that they are told in their pre-Cana (marriage prep) classes that yes, the CC only approves of NFP, but "you don't have to bother with that and you can use ABC if you want." This is by Church-approved teachers AND priests.

That's right.  And this also explains why Father Ambrose can go to the USCCB and find data heavily freighted against Natural Family Planning.  But that does not stop young men and women from starting parish based classes and circumventing those pastors and bishops who think Humanae Vitae is bunko.


And, as you never tire of raising the hew and cry, such actions against your much vaunted "magisterium" is above their (the married great unwashed) pay grade.

You make no sense here...What else is new?
Nothing new: I just repeated your old routine. That's why it doesn't make any sense.

Petty per usual.
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« Reply #141 on: July 13, 2011, 03:18:49 PM »

Since the CC's stance on artificial birth control is one of its most recognizable stances to many people, I wanted to comment on it.

I've known people who are active with the Couple to Couple League - Catholic Natural Family Planning organization. There are dioceses in my area whose bishops and priests absolutely refuse to allow any NFP literature to be put in parish literature racks. These bishops and priests also downright refuse to meet with the CCL people and refuse to allow NFP classes to be held at parishes.

Then there's the local cardinal archbishop who while he gives public lip service to the CC's stance on ABC and that couples to use NFP, he will do absolutely nothing to the priests who refuse to have themselves or their parishes associated with NFP in any way (no literature, classes, speakers). One woman tried to have a table at parish ministry fair, to hand out literature and answer questions. The priest told her it would not happen as long as he was there and to not bother to ask again.

Multiple Catholic friends across the US have told me that they are told in their pre-Cana (marriage prep) classes that yes, the CC only approves of NFP, but "you don't have to bother with that and you can use ABC if you want." This is by Church-approved teachers AND priests.

That's right.  And this also explains why Father Ambrose can go to the USCCB and find data heavily freighted against Natural Family Planning.  But that does not stop young men and women from starting parish based classes and circumventing those pastors and bishops who think Humanae Vitae is bunko.


And, as you never tire of raising the hew and cry, such actions against your much vaunted "magisterium" is above their (the married great unwashed) pay grade.

You make no sense here...What else is new?
Nothing new: I just repeated your old routine. That's why it doesn't make any sense.

Petty per usual.
It's your routine.
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« Reply #142 on: July 13, 2011, 03:20:00 PM »



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