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WRO Benedictine oblates
« on: June 18, 2011, 08:13:13 PM »
I have seen several references online to the existence of Orthodox Benedictine oblates, but the information on the Internet seems a bit scant. Does anyone know more about it?
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Re: WRO Benedictine oblates
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2011, 11:31:05 PM »
I have seen several references online to the existence of Orthodox Benedictine oblates, but the information on the Internet seems a bit scant. Does anyone know more about it?

Here's something about oblates from Christminster, a western rite benedictine ROCOR-MP monastery:
http://christminster.org/about/oblate-observances/

This is from an Antiochian western rite church who has a priest who is an oblate of the Christminster monastery:
http://www.stcolumbachurch.org/benedictine_oblates.html

Another Antiochian western rite church's oblate program:
http://www.stmichaelwhittier.org/dnn/Oblates/OblatesHome/tabid/89/Default.aspx

And here's something from Holy Name Abbey which is an Old Calendarist Orthodox Benedictine monastery of the same Metropolia that I am a part of:
http://holynameabbey.org/vocations.htm

That's all I found on Orthodox Benedictine oblates.  Personally I don't have any experience with western rite Orthodox oblates.  If I remember correctly though, I think there may be some western rite Orthodox on this forum who are oblates but I could be wrong.  And I know Fr. Augustine who is a hierodeacon at Holy Name Abbey sometimes posts on this forum and he may have had some experiences with oblates from our Metropolia.
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Re: WRO Benedictine oblates
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2011, 12:51:20 AM »
Somewhere I have a service book or some such thing from the Society of St. Basil (whither went the Metropolia's Western Rite and whence came the Antiochian WR Vicarate) which had something on the oblates, IIRC. I'll see if I can find it (it was on line).
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Re: WRO Benedictine oblates
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2011, 11:12:53 AM »
I'm interested in being an oblate but haven't yet visited a western Rite church. Still trying to learn more about both. Are Benedictine oblates limited to the Western Rite?
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Re: WRO Benedictine oblates
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2011, 07:51:18 PM »
I'm interested in being an oblate but haven't yet visited a western Rite church. Still trying to learn more about both. Are Benedictine oblates limited to the Western Rite?

If I am correct in my understanding of how Benedictines work it is a rule of life not of rite. So in theory one could still follow the rule while practicing the Byzantine form of worship.
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Re: WRO Benedictine oblates
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2011, 08:26:24 PM »
     FWIW, for the past few years I have been inquiring into and learning about the Oblate program.  I live in Athol MA, a small town in north central Mass. with ALL of the nearby Orthodox churches at distances of 30 to 60 miles.  There is an Orthodox monastery (with only one monk, the pastor of a Romanian Orthodox Church) in Southbridge MA, about 70 miles away.  Proximity is a benefit in any of these programs (!!) but the wife does not want to move!
      However, just down the road a piece is a small Bendictine monastery, in Petersham MA, with about 6 to 8 monks.   One of them, Bro. Jerome Leo, has an excellent daily prayer and Rule reading blog, to which I subscribe. Plus, he told me that they do accept Orthodox Oblates; since western monasticism in part developed from the rules of Saints Pachomius, John Cassian and others, there is a close affinity between the Benedictines and Eastern Orthodoxy.  However, because I am a former Catholic converted to Orthodoxy, they will not allow me to become an Oblate....unless I revert to Rome.  Not gonna happen....  So I have inquired with the Romanian pastor, about his Monastic Associate program, which is similar to the Oblate plan; waiting to hear, after the busy weekend.
     There are some good references at the Benedictine website, www.osb.org which will lead you to a lot more Oblate info.  God bless!

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Re: WRO Benedictine oblates
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2011, 10:49:36 PM »
Thanks for the info!

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Re: WRO Benedictine oblates
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2011, 06:05:57 PM »
I'm interested in being an oblate but haven't yet visited a western Rite church. Still trying to learn more about both. Are Benedictine oblates limited to the Western Rite?

If I am correct in my understanding of how Benedictines work it is a rule of life not of rite. So in theory one could still follow the rule while practicing the Byzantine form of worship.

Before the 1965 Roman Missal it is rumoured that the Benedictines had a different Roman Missal... I'm not sure of the differences or if they really existed.. I've been to high mass said by a benedictine monk and other than wearing his hood instead of a biretta, I don't know if there is any difference. 

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Re: WRO Benedictine oblates
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2011, 01:47:15 AM »
I'm interested in being an oblate but haven't yet visited a western Rite church. Still trying to learn more about both. Are Benedictine oblates limited to the Western Rite?

If I am correct in my understanding of how Benedictines work it is a rule of life not of rite. So in theory one could still follow the rule while practicing the Byzantine form of worship.

Before the 1965 Roman Missal it is rumoured that the Benedictines had a different Roman Missal... I'm not sure of the differences or if they really existed.. I've been to high mass said by a benedictine monk and other than wearing his hood instead of a biretta, I don't know if there is any difference. 

The difference was not in the Missal but the Breviary.  The Benedictines follow St. Benedict's arrangement of the Psalms.  There are also differences in the some of the arrangement of the hours. 
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Re: WRO Benedictine oblates
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2012, 10:19:30 PM »
The Benedictines had their own Missal.

It included, for example, the weekly blessing of the reader done in conjunction with the Sunday High Mass.

It included propers for Saints of special importance to the Benedictine order/tradition.

Whether they still have their own Missal, I don't know.