OrthodoxChristianity.net
October 31, 2014, 03:50:54 AM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
News: Reminder: No political discussions in the public fora.  If you do not have access to the private Politics Forum, please send a PM to Fr. George.
 
   Home   Help Calendar Contact Treasury Tags Login Register  
Pages: 1   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Christian Faith *Requires* Accepting Evolution  (Read 548 times) Average Rating: 0
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
Jetavan
Argumentum ad australopithecum
Taxiarches
**********
Offline Offline

Faith: Science to the Fourth Power
Jurisdiction: Ohayo Gozaimasu
Posts: 6,580


Barlaam and Josaphat


WWW
« on: June 18, 2011, 06:39:18 PM »

Quote
In theory, if not always in practice, past Christian theologians valued science out of the belief that God created the world scientists study. Augustine castigated those who made the Bible teach bad science, John Calvin argued that Genesis reflects a commoner's view of the physical world, and the Belgic confession likened scripture and nature to two books written by the same author.

These beliefs encouraged past Christians to accept the best science of their day, and these beliefs persisted even into the evangelical tradition. As Princeton Seminary's Charles Hodge, widely considered the father of modern evangelical theology, put it in 1859: "Nature is as truly a revelation of God as the Bible; and we only interpret the Word of God by the Word of God when we interpret the Bible by science."

In this analysis, Christians must accept sound science, not because they don't believe God created the world, but precisely because they do.
I wouldn't agree that Christians must believe in evolution, but I do believe that it wouldn't hurt. Roll Eyes
Logged

If you will, you can become all flame.
Extra caritatem nulla salus.
In order to become whole, take the "I" out of "holiness".
सर्वभूतहित
Ἄνω σχῶμεν τὰς καρδίας
"Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." -- Mohandas Gandhi
Y dduw bo'r diolch.
yeshuaisiam
Protokentarchos
*********
Offline Offline

Faith: Orthodox, Anabaptist, Other Early Christianity kind of jumbled together
Posts: 4,278


A pulling horse cannot kick.


« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2011, 08:27:18 PM »

The issue here is that a theologian can actually be WRONG.

One must ask themselves if Jesus/Yeshua accepted modern day Science of his day. 

The other issues is if the Theologians are right, did the teachings of Science of their day actually completely contradict their faith?

Also, remember evolution is a THEORY, and not FACT.
Logged

I learned how to be more frugal and save money at http://www.livingpress.com
biro
Site Supporter
Toumarches
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 14,188


« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2011, 09:27:25 PM »

For what it's worth, I believe Charles Darwin studied for the Anglican priesthood, so I don't know if he ever became an atheist like many of the scientists after him. It's just interesting to note.  Undecided Not that it proves the case either way, but it's something to think about.
Logged

Not posting
bogdan
OC.net guru
*******
Offline Offline

Faith: Orthodox
Posts: 1,615



« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2011, 10:11:55 PM »

Also, remember evolution is a THEORY, and not FACT.

"Theory" has a specific meaning in the scientific realm, which is more rigorous than the general "wishy-washy" meaning of the term. Think of it like a scatter plot model:



The red dots in this analogy represent all the fossils we have found. The blue line represents the theory of evolution. Evolution is an attempt to explain the apparent development we see in fossils.

Could it be wrong? Yes, sure. There could be a model that fits the data better than evolution. But based on every fact we have found, this model, this theory, of evolution is the best scientific explanation for the cold hard facts on hand.

I say that personally holding some misgivings about how evolution fits with the theology of the New Adam. I think it's problematic. However, data is data. I generally don't spend my time thinking about such things because there are no completely satisfactory answers. Christians have to be able to live with a certain amount of tension, because we can't know everything. We can only know what is revealed. We look through a glass darkly.
« Last Edit: June 18, 2011, 10:15:57 PM by bogdan » Logged
Shiny
Site Supporter
Moderated
Toumarches
*****
Offline Offline

Faith: Groucho Marxist
Jurisdiction: Dahntahn Stoop Haus
Posts: 13,267


Paint It Red


« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2011, 11:24:12 PM »

But the problem is the millions of transitional changes for a bat and a whale to have a common ancestor which is not in the fossil record. I think Christians have an advantage over a naturalist in that we can being truly open to follow the evidence where it leads. And the evidence to suggest how God brought life and all its complexities? I remain an agnostic on the findings attributed to theories such as Natural Selection and Random Mutation.
Logged

“There is your brother, naked, crying, and you stand there confused over the choice of an attractive floor covering.”

– St. Ambrose of Milan
Tags:
Pages: 1   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.18 | SMF © 2013, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.044 seconds with 33 queries.