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Two New WR ROCOR Priests
« on: June 10, 2011, 08:07:40 PM »
It is with great pleasure that I announce to you the reception of two new Western Rite Priests in ROCOR.

 
Fr Michael (Dunstan) of Mississippi will be received by chierothesia from the Former Milan Synod USA tomorrow at the cathedral by His Grace Bishop Jerome.

 
Fr Aidan Alvin (Kimel) of Virginia [a well known member of OC.net] is being received from the Roman Catholic priesthood by chierotonia as a deacon tomorrow and a priest on Sunday.


And the Lord added to their number.


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Re: Two New WR ROCOR Priests
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2011, 08:22:29 PM »
It is with great pleasure that I announce to you the reception of two new Western Rite Priests in ROCOR.

 
Fr Michael (Dunstan) of Mississippi will be received by chierothesia from the Former Milan Synod USA tomorrow at the cathedral by His Grace Bishop Jerome.

 
Fr Aidan Alvin (Kimel) of Virginia [a well known member of OC.net] is being received from the Roman Catholic priesthood by chierotonia as a deacon tomorrow and a priest on Sunday.


And the Lord added to their number.


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I had no idea about Fr. Kimel! I know him! He and his wife attend our parish :) May God grant them many years!

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Re: Two New WR ROCOR Priests
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2011, 08:46:09 PM »
It is with great pleasure that I announce to you the reception of two new Western Rite Priests in ROCOR.

 
Fr Michael (Dunstan) of Mississippi will be received by chierothesia from the Former Milan Synod USA tomorrow at the cathedral by His Grace Bishop Jerome.

 
Fr Aidan Alvin (Kimel) of Virginia [a well known member of OC.net] is being received from the Roman Catholic priesthood by chierotonia as a deacon tomorrow and a priest on Sunday.


And the Lord added to their number.


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Do you by any chance have a link so I can share the good news with others? I imagine the WR Fraternity webpage will be updated soon to reflect this. I am just overjoyed at this news.

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Re: Two New WR ROCOR Priests
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2011, 08:49:35 PM »
It is with great pleasure that I announce to you the reception of two new Western Rite Priests in ROCOR.

 
Fr Michael (Dunstan) of Mississippi will be received by chierothesia from the Former Milan Synod USA tomorrow at the cathedral by His Grace Bishop Jerome.

 
Fr Aidan Alvin (Kimel) of Virginia [a well known member of OC.net] is being received from the Roman Catholic priesthood by chierotonia as a deacon tomorrow and a priest on Sunday.


And the Lord added to their number.


Fr Anthony

Pastoral Vicar for Western Rite

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Do you by any chance have a link so I can share the good news with others? I imagine the WR Fraternity webpage will be updated soon to reflect this. I am just overjoyed at this news.

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Re: Two New WR ROCOR Priests
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2011, 10:04:07 PM »
It is with great pleasure that I announce to you the reception of two new Western Rite Priests in ROCOR.

 
Fr Michael (Dunstan) of Mississippi will be received by chierothesia from the Former Milan Synod USA tomorrow at the cathedral by His Grace Bishop Jerome.

 
Fr Aidan Alvin (Kimel) of Virginia [a well known member of OC.net] is being received from the Roman Catholic priesthood by chierotonia as a deacon tomorrow and a priest on Sunday.


And the Lord added to their number.


Fr Anthony

Pastoral Vicar for Western Rite

ROCOR


Father Bless!

Thanks for sharing this wonderful news.

God grant them many years. Axios.

Respectfully in Christ,
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Re: Two New WR ROCOR Priests
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2011, 10:50:13 PM »
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Re: Two New WR ROCOR Priests
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2011, 11:36:02 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2011, 12:17:07 AM »
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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2011, 12:46:23 AM »
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Re: Two New WR ROCOR Priests
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2011, 01:11:50 AM »
I'm just so excited and can't get over this. He and I went out to lunch about a year ago and said he wanted to become an Orthodox priest as he had stopped active ministry when he and his wife moved to VA, I believe, but I cannot speak for him as to why. He didn't tell anyone, though I bet he told our priest.  :laugh: How great! AXIOS!!

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Re: Two New WR ROCOR Priests
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2011, 02:22:13 AM »
Does Father Aidan Alvin (Kimel) have a blog?

I thought I read it about a year or so ago.
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Re: Two New WR ROCOR Priests
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2011, 11:36:38 AM »
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Re: Two New WR ROCOR Priests
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2011, 02:10:22 PM »
Fr. Kimel become rector, in 1996, of Holy Communion, an Episcopal parish in the Holy City, Charleston, SC.

Fr. Kimel was later ordained a Catholic priest, in 2005.

He authored a blog entitled "Pontifications", in which he proceeded (no pun intended) to discuss his reasons for becoming Catholic.

This is a surprise, but not totally unexpected. ;D
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Re: Two New WR ROCOR Priests
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2011, 02:53:46 PM »
Fr. Kimel become rector, in 1996, of Holy Communion, an Episcopal parish in the Holy City, Charleston, SC.

Fr. Kimel was later ordained a Catholic priest, in 2005.

He authored a blog entitled "Pontifications", in which he proceeded (no pun intended) to discuss his reasons for becoming Catholic.

This is a surprise, but not totally unexpected. ;D
I should have seen it coming after his wife was baptized in our church. He was an Episcopalian priest for quite sometime, though. In his case, no one can claim Orthodox disunity exists, because last weekend he was chrismated by an OCA priest (his longtime friend, Fr. Stephen Freeman), ordained in ROCOR, and will be serving alongside Fr. Alban Waggener of Lynchburg (Antiochian). ;)

Many years to Fr. Aidan!

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« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2011, 05:11:51 PM »
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Re: Two New WR ROCOR Priests
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2011, 09:53:55 AM »

 
Fr Michael (Dunstan) of Mississippi will be received by chierothesia from the Former Milan Synod USA tomorrow at the cathedral by His Grace Bishop Jerome.


Father:

Do you know in what part of Mississippi Fr. Michael's work is located?
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Re: Two New WR ROCOR Priests
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2011, 03:32:24 PM »
It is with great pleasure that I announce to you the reception of two new Western Rite Priests in ROCOR.

Fr Michael (Dunstan) of Mississippi will be received by chierothesia from the Former Milan Synod USA tomorrow at the cathedral by His Grace Bishop Jerome.

Fr Aidan Alvin (Kimel) of Virginia [a well known member of OC.net] is being received from the Roman Catholic priesthood by chierotonia as a deacon tomorrow and a priest on Sunday.


Can anyone please explain the distinction between chierothesia and chierotonia?
Thanks

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« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2011, 09:30:06 AM »
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Re: Two New WR ROCOR Priests
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2011, 12:12:13 PM »
It is with great pleasure that I announce to you the reception of two new Western Rite Priests in ROCOR.

Fr Michael (Dunstan) of Mississippi will be received by chierothesia from the Former Milan Synod USA tomorrow at the cathedral by His Grace Bishop Jerome.

Fr Aidan Alvin (Kimel) of Virginia [a well known member of OC.net] is being received from the Roman Catholic priesthood by chierotonia as a deacon tomorrow and a priest on Sunday.


Can anyone please explain the distinction between chierothesia and chierotonia?
Thanks

I think chierotonia is used because ROCOR does not accept Roman Catholic priestly ordination.
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Re: Two New WR ROCOR Priests
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2011, 12:27:52 PM »
Ok,
maybe i should have asked my question a bit more clearer.

Can anyone define these two terms so I can understand the distinction?
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« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2011, 01:30:13 PM »
Father Aidan (Keller) recently answered this question on another list. I trust he will not mind if I quote him here:


"A Cheirotonia is a full ordination service--a full ordination without omissions or variations.

A Cheirotesia is a procedure which does not include all or even most of the elements of the ordination service but repeats the central ordination prayer and involves imposition of hands upon a clergyman being received, who is typically already vested in sacred vestments.

Regardless of which form is used, after it has happened, the man is definitely an ordained Orthodox clergyman.

In some historical texts, the two forms may be used rather interchangeably, but cheirotonia and cheirotesia are distinct in terms of modern practice and terminology."



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Re: Two New WR ROCOR Priests
« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2011, 05:21:01 PM »
AXIOS!

This is very encouraging and happy news.
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Re: Two New WR ROCOR Priests
« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2011, 12:07:14 PM »
Father Aidan (Keller) recently answered this question on another list. I trust he will not mind if I quote him here:


"A Cheirotonia is a full ordination service--a full ordination without omissions or variations.

A Cheirotesia is a procedure which does not include all or even most of the elements of the ordination service but repeats the central ordination prayer and involves imposition of hands upon a clergyman being received, who is typically already vested in sacred vestments.

Regardless of which form is used, after it has happened, the man is definitely an ordained Orthodox clergyman.

In some historical texts, the two forms may be used rather interchangeably, but cheirotonia and cheirotesia are distinct in terms of modern practice and terminology."

I wonder if they could be compared with "unconditional ordination" and "conditional ordination", respectively. (Apologies if I'm oversimplifying.)
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Re: Two New WR ROCOR Priests
« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2011, 12:10:23 PM »
Father Aidan (Keller) recently answered this question on another list. I trust he will not mind if I quote him here:


"A Cheirotonia is a full ordination service--a full ordination without omissions or variations.

A Cheirotesia is a procedure which does not include all or even most of the elements of the ordination service but repeats the central ordination prayer and involves imposition of hands upon a clergyman being received, who is typically already vested in sacred vestments.

Regardless of which form is used, after it has happened, the man is definitely an ordained Orthodox clergyman.

In some historical texts, the two forms may be used rather interchangeably, but cheirotonia and cheirotesia are distinct in terms of modern practice and terminology."

I wonder if they could be compared with "unconditional ordination" and "conditional ordination", respectively. (Apologies if I'm oversimplifying.)
That sounds like a good comparison to me, but I will defer judgment until hearing from those who are far more educated on these matters than I am.

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Re: Two New WR ROCOR Priests
« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2011, 01:52:37 AM »
Wow, just saw this about Fr. Kimel.

I'm going to need this.

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Re: Two New WR ROCOR Priests
« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2011, 09:36:59 PM »
ROCOR's Western Rite continues to enjoy a springtime!

With the Blessing of the Metropolitan, next Sunday, July 10th at St Ambrose of Milan Orthodox Church in Putnam Valley NY,  Steven P. Tolbert will be ordained to the Minor Orders, Subdiaconate, and Diaconate by His Grace Bishop Jerome, Vicar Bishop for Western Rite. Steven is a graduate of St Vladimir’s Seminary and a Lieutenant in the National Guard. He is coordinating four missions in Oklahoma starting with a base at St Brigit of Ireland in Claremore currently under the leadership of Reader Matthew. 

His ordination brings to 30 the amount of priests, deacons and subdeacons in Western Rite in the Fraternity of St Gregory here in North America not counting two deceased ROCOR (Dom Augustine and Dn. Robert) WR Clergy.

Please pray for Steven, his wife Michele, and their twins Anna and Rebecca.  “…. And the Lord added to their number.”

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Re: Two New WR ROCOR Priests
« Reply #26 on: July 03, 2011, 11:04:05 PM »
ROCOR's Western Rite continues to enjoy a springtime!

With the Blessing of the Metropolitan, next Sunday, July 10th at St Ambrose of Milan Orthodox Church in Putnam Valley NY,  Steven P. Tolbert will be ordained to the Minor Orders, Subdiaconate, and Diaconate by His Grace Bishop Jerome, Vicar Bishop for Western Rite. Steven is a graduate of St Vladimir’s Seminary and a Lieutenant in the National Guard. He is coordinating four missions in Oklahoma starting with a base at St Brigit of Ireland in Claremore currently under the leadership of Reader Matthew. 

His ordination brings to 30 the amount of priests, deacons and subdeacons in Western Rite in the Fraternity of St Gregory here in North America not counting two deceased ROCOR (Dom Augustine and Dn. Robert) WR Clergy.

Please pray for Steven, his wife Michele, and their twins Anna and Rebecca.  “…. And the Lord added to their number.”

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Re: Two New WR ROCOR Priests
« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2011, 10:52:05 PM »
Why will Fr. Kimel receive ordination as a priest instead of being received by vesting?
Is this a practice of the ROCOR? Most Churches I know, receive former RC priests by vesting. Thanks

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« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2011, 10:59:29 PM »
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Re: Two New WR ROCOR Priests
« Reply #29 on: December 16, 2011, 04:59:07 AM »
Why will Fr. Kimel receive ordination as a priest instead of being received by vesting?
Is this a practice of the ROCOR? Most Churches I know, receive former RC priests by vesting. Thanks

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11 June 2011

It is with great pleasure that I announce to you the reception of two new
Western Rite Priests in ROCOR.

Fr Michael (Dunstan) of Mississippi will be received by chierothesia from
the Former Milan Synod USA tomorrow at the cathedral by His Grace Bishop
Jerome.

Fr Aidan Alvin (Kimel) of Virginia is being received from the Roman Catholic
priesthood by chierotonia as a deacon tomorrow and a priest on Sunday.


And the Lord added to their number.

Fr Anthony

Pastoral Vicar for Western Rite
ROCOR


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« Reply #30 on: December 16, 2011, 12:25:33 PM »
Thanks for the clarification. I did not read the post correctly. Thank you.

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« Reply #31 on: December 16, 2011, 03:53:31 PM »
Thanks for the clarification. I did not read the post correctly. Thank you.

No, you were right the first time.  The Roman Catholic priest Fr Kimel was indeed ordained (cheirotonia.)

And my apologies, I did not realise I had answered you by simply repeating the first post.
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Re: Two New WR ROCOR Priests
« Reply #32 on: December 16, 2011, 04:02:51 PM »
Thanks for the clarification. I did not read the post correctly. Thank you.

No, you were right the first time.  The Roman Catholic priest Fr Kimel was indeed ordained (cheirotonia.)

And my apologies, I did not realise I had answered you by simply repeating the first post.
Fr. Kimel's a member here?

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« Reply #33 on: December 16, 2011, 04:43:32 PM »
Yes. He occasionally posts here.
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« Reply #34 on: December 16, 2011, 04:44:09 PM »
Yes. He occasionally posts here.
Oh wow. I'll have to ask him his user name here on Sunday.

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« Reply #35 on: December 16, 2011, 07:37:33 PM »
Wonderful! Praise God!

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Re: Two New WR ROCOR Priests
« Reply #36 on: December 20, 2011, 01:20:03 AM »
So, does this mean the ROCOR receives RC priests by ordination while the MP receives RC priests by vesting? Is this due to the fact that Fr. Kimel was once an Anglican minister?

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Re: Two New WR ROCOR Priests
« Reply #37 on: December 20, 2011, 03:21:53 AM »
So, does this mean the ROCOR receives RC priests by ordination while the MP receives RC priests by vesting? Is this due to the fact that Fr. Kimel was once an Anglican minister?

Are regular MP bishops allowed to receive RC clergy by ordination?

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Re: Two New WR ROCOR Priests
« Reply #38 on: December 20, 2011, 08:44:27 AM »
So, does this mean the ROCOR receives RC priests by ordination while the MP receives RC priests by vesting? Is this due to the fact that Fr. Kimel was once an Anglican minister?

I don't believe he was received into the Church by ordination. He was certainly ordained by a ROCOR hierarch. I am pretty sure he was chrismated a week prior.

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