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Southern Baptists Vote To Leave World Alliance By Alan Cooperman Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, June 16, 2004; Page A02 The Southern Baptist Convention voted yesterday to pull out of the Baptist World Alliance, accusing the worldwide organization of a drift toward liberalism that included growing tolerance of homosexuality, support for women in the clergy and "anti-American" pronouncements. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A44658-2004Jun15.html
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« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2004, 10:51:35 AM » |
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I'm pretty much baptist in name only at this point, since I reject "OSAS", the pretrib rapture, Sola Scriptura, and the symbolic-only view of Baptism and Lord's Supper. However, I still respect the SBC's stand against the encroaching apostasy in Christendom which passes for "liberalism".
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« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2004, 11:35:12 AM » |
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Aren't Baptists really an American denomination with a heavy presence mostly in the conservative South? I know a woman who was born in India who immigrated with help from baptisit missionaries....but where do Baptists have a worldwide presence?
And what is with this beleif in being baptised more than once ...where does that come from?
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« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2004, 11:41:22 AM » |
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And what is with this beleif in being baptised more than once ...where does that come from?
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« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2004, 12:23:02 PM » |
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Baptists will re-baptize those who were baptized as infants because they consider believers' baptism by immersion to be the only valid baptism.
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« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2004, 12:29:28 PM » |
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Baptists will re-baptize those who were baptized as infants because they consider believers' baptism by immersion to be the only valid baptism.
And they are correct in that. |
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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2004, 12:32:21 PM » |
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Tom,
I hope you mean that baptism by immersion is the only valid baptism and not that infant baptism is invald.
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« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2004, 12:44:34 PM » |
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Tom,
I hope you mean that baptism by immersion is the only valid baptism and not that infant baptism is invald.
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« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2004, 01:22:47 PM » |
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I'm pretty much baptist in name only at this point, since I reject "OSAS", the pretrib rapture, Sola Scriptura, and the symbolic-only view of Baptism and Lord's Supper. However, I still respect the SBC's stand against the encroaching apostasy in Christendom which passes for "liberalism".
I agree with your respect for what the Southern Baptists have done. Good for them. |
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« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2004, 10:59:11 AM » |
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FYI: I attend a SoBap church, and we view the baptism question this way. Any baptism that is outside the correct method - Trinitarian, by immersion, with full knowledge that it is symbolic and not for salvation (salvation being already gained), not infant - will mostly be judged as invalid. So to them (us) it's not being re-baptised but simply being baptised. Just don't ask me what happens when a person who was baptised SoBap, converts at, say, age 21 to EOC, and then comes *back* to SoBap 7 years later. Don't know about that one (of course, we all know that would *never* happen  ). I am also thankful for the SBC's stand against liberalism - it's the most powerful American Christian group left standing against it. |
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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2004, 11:34:57 AM » |
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woo-hoo for the SBC!
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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2004, 12:37:54 PM » |
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weird.
you all make as if the Southern Baptists are a Legitimate "Church".
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« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2004, 01:11:13 PM » |
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nah, but this is certainly a step in the right direction for them.
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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2004, 04:34:51 PM » |
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I am also thankful for the SBC's stand against liberalism - it's the most powerful American Christian group left standing against it. Yea, along with the RC Bishops who ussually get targeted by the liberal media much more than the baptist. |
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« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2004, 06:11:00 PM » |
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because at least the SBCers aren't being hypocrites. just joking there.
Actually, my theory is that since Catholics pretty much voted solidly democrat prior to the abortion issue and homosexual marriage issue, it is looked on as odd when they stand with us on the Right. SBCers have voted rightwing since the democrats were the right wing party and probably will continue voting right wing until Jesus comes back again. IOW: "The SBC is opposing homosexual parades at DisneyLand? big woop! wheres the story line?"
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« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2004, 06:11:45 PM » |
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Thus endeth my discussion of american poltics. BTW Nacho, who said that Islam quote?
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« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2004, 07:13:24 PM » |
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Actually, my theory is that since Catholics pretty much voted solidly democrat prior to the abortion issue and homosexual marriage issue, it is looked on as odd when they stand with us on the Right. SBCers have voted rightwing since the democrats were the right wing party and probably will continue voting right wing until Jesus comes back again. IOW: "The SBC is opposing homosexual parades at DisneyLand? big woop! wheres the story line?"
I think many Catholics used to be that way, but they are coming into the Republican Party by the boat loads now due to the Democrats swift turn to the far left. They are opening thier eyes and seeing what's really going on. Catholic.com, which has the most popular and well known RC online forum & community recently did a poll between Bush & Kerry & guess what??? It was 85% for Bush & 5% for Kerry. So, I think we are seeing a substantial shift in american politics. Thus endeth my discussion of american poltics. BTW Nacho, who said that Islam quote?
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