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« on: June 08, 2011, 09:01:19 PM »

Was reading about internet "memes" and found this:

http://www.zazzle.com/europe_according_to_the_vatican_poster-228241982411366618

Europe according to the Vatican... Kind of funny...

Warning, it is not politically correct, and may offend some.
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2011, 09:03:59 PM »

Okay, I might need to buy this. I'm a sucker for memes that mess with maps.
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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2011, 09:07:47 PM »

Love it
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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2011, 09:10:25 PM »

I think I'm gonna make a map for "The World According to Greece" or something like that...
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« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2011, 09:15:24 PM »

Oh man that's funny. laugh
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« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2011, 09:20:37 PM »

The Dutch are the Handsome Blond Boys
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« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2011, 09:26:36 PM »

That's pretty good. LOL.  Cheesy
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« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2011, 09:37:23 PM »

LOL. Nice.
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« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2011, 10:56:42 PM »

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Interesting.  I'll have to leave it at that, lest it be misconstrued as political.
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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2011, 01:21:56 AM »

I love these maps.  Grin
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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2011, 04:14:57 AM »

Jesus never went to Finland :_(

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« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2011, 06:34:54 AM »

Christ is ascended!
Jesus never went to Finland :_(

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Don't feel bad. He never went to Greece, Russia or Italy either.

But He did spend His childhood in Egypt. Grin
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« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2011, 11:37:07 AM »

I think I'm gonna make a map for "The World According to Greece" or something like that...

Just change the color code and few words and all is good!  I was glad to see that most of us come from lands
that are just 'misguided'.  Wink Wink Wink Shocked
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« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2011, 09:29:52 AM »

Why is Belarus WTF?
Belarus is the most pro-Vatican of the Orthodox states. In a couple of years we might even have a concordat with the Republic of Belarus.
I don't understand the connexion between "Teutonia" and Lithuania (?)
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« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2011, 09:36:19 AM »

I think I'm gonna make a map for "The World According to Greece" or something like that...

Just change the color code and few words and all is good!  I was glad to see that most of us come from lands
that are just 'misguided'.  Wink Wink Wink Shocked

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Why is Belarus WTF?
Belarus is the most pro-Vatican of the Orthodox states. In a couple of years we might even have a concordat with the Republic of Belarus.
I don't understand the connexion between "Teutonia" and Lithuania (?)


Lighten up, it's supposed to be satire, not scholarship.

BTW, since Belarus is the most totalitarian of the post-Soviet states and has seemingly done the least to dismantle the state apparatus that existed pre-1991, why would a concordat with Belarus be something to be proud of? Just asking....
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« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2011, 10:18:28 AM »

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Why is Belarus WTF?
Belarus is the most pro-Vatican of the Orthodox states. In a couple of years we might even have a concordat with the Republic of Belarus.
I don't understand the connexion between "Teutonia" and Lithuania (?)
Your friends, the Teutonic Knights.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Crusades
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« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2011, 10:47:01 AM »

Lighten up, it's supposed to be satire, not scholarship.

BTW, since Belarus is the most totalitarian of the post-Soviet states and has seemingly done the least to dismantle the state apparatus that existed pre-1991, why would a concordat with Belarus be something to be proud of? Just asking....

I would debate that;
The concordat would an affirmation of the Church's right to exist. Without a concordat, the State can disestablish the Catholic Church and all organised religion. This happened in France, and from 1905, no Church of any stripe has legal personhood in France. The only legal form of religious organisation in France is the cultural association but not the Catholic Church as a whole or a diocese.
The concordat is essential for the Church's existence in Europe. I'd just like to add that Serbia also wants a concordat from what I have heard.
 
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« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2011, 01:44:51 PM »

Lighten up, it's supposed to be satire, not scholarship.

BTW, since Belarus is the most totalitarian of the post-Soviet states and has seemingly done the least to dismantle the state apparatus that existed pre-1991, why would a concordat with Belarus be something to be proud of? Just asking....

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The concordat is essential for the Church's existence in Europe. I'd just like to add that Serbia also wants a concordat from what I have heard.
 

I guess I misunderstood your point, but to my American ears, it would be like saying one of the former Confederate  states over another was the less oppressive than others with 'Jim Crow' race laws following our Civil War and Reconstruction.
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Lighten up, it's supposed to be satire, not scholarship.

BTW, since Belarus is the most totalitarian of the post-Soviet states and has seemingly done the least to dismantle the state apparatus that existed pre-1991, why would a concordat with Belarus be something to be proud of? Just asking....

I would debate that;
The concordat would an affirmation of the Church's right to exist. Without a concordat, the State can disestablish the Catholic Church and all organised religion. This happened in France, and from 1905, no Church of any stripe has legal personhood in France. The only legal form of religious organisation in France is the cultural association but not the Catholic Church as a whole or a diocese.
The concordat is essential for the Church's existence in Europe. I'd just like to add that Serbia also wants a concordat from what I have heard.
 

I guess I misunderstood your point, but to my American ears, it would be like saying one of the former Confederate  states over another was the less oppressive than others with 'Jim Crow' race laws following our Civil War and Reconstruction.
Yes, I take into fact that your American understanding is different. (I have no idea what you are writing in the myth of the schism marriage thread.There I will add a post on that topic)
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« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2011, 05:03:55 PM »

Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

Jesus never went to Finland :_(

Thanks for posting  Grin

What about our sister churches in the Finnish Orthodox Wink

My favorite was the "meh" for Macedonia and the "oh dear" for the Netherlands!

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« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2011, 12:31:46 PM »

Proud citizen and subject of the Papal States!

Long live our sovereign, the Bishop of Rome!


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« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2011, 12:55:22 PM »


Proud citizen and subject of the Papal States Vatican!

Long live our sovereign, the Bishop of Rome!

Many years! La multi ani!
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« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2011, 01:03:18 PM »

He is not a Bishop of Rome.
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« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2011, 01:23:46 PM »

Christ is ascended!
He is not a Bishop of Rome.
I know that according to the Orthodox diptychs of the Catholic Church, he is not, but he is a bishop of Rome, if we are going to use that title for all ecclesiastical communities. Like we call the Episcopalian bishop of Chicago "a bishop of Chicago." Just not a bishop of Chicago like the 3(?) Orthodox bishops of Chicago (we have more, but the others have their titular sees elsewhere).
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Proud citizen and subject of the Papal States Vatican Papal States!

I don't think so. My family is from Montefiascone, on the northern edge of Lazio, not Vatican Hill in Rome.


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« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2011, 01:31:41 PM »

I know that according to the Orthodox diptychs of the Catholic Church, he is not, but he is a bishop of Rome, if we are going to use that title for all ecclesiastical communities. Like we call the Episcopalian bishop of Chicago "a bishop of Chicago." Just not a bishop of Chicago like the 3(?) Orthodox bishops of Chicago (we have more, but the others have their titular sees elsewhere).

According to your Ecumenical Patriarch, His All-Holiness Bartholomew, Benedict XVI is "His Beatitude, the Bishop of Rome." Not "layman of the Vatican", as you would prefer to call him. If you have a problem with that, take it up with His All-Holiness, not with me.  Smiley
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I know that according to the Orthodox diptychs of the Catholic Church, he is not, but he is a bishop of Rome, if we are going to use that title for all ecclesiastical communities. Like we call the Episcopalian bishop of Chicago "a bishop of Chicago." Just not a bishop of Chicago like the 3(?) Orthodox bishops of Chicago (we have more, but the others have their titular sees elsewhere).

According to your Ecumenical Patriarch, His All-Holiness Bartholomew, Benedict XVI is "His Beatitude, the Bishop of Rome." Not "layman of the Vatican", as you would prefer to call him. If you have a problem with that, take it up with His All-Holiness, not with me.  Smiley
He's not infallible, so they can throw out anything he says whenever what he says is inconvenient.  Wink
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Proud citizen and subject of the Papal States Vatican Papal States!

I don't think so. My family is from Montefiascone, on the northern edge of Lazio, not Vatican Hill in Rome.



Then you are out of luck, as this is the only papal state since the Donation of Mussolini a/k/a the Lateran Treaty


You will notice that it is surrounded by Italy.
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I know that according to the Orthodox diptychs of the Catholic Church, he is not, but he is a bishop of Rome, if we are going to use that title for all ecclesiastical communities. Like we call the Episcopalian bishop of Chicago "a bishop of Chicago." Just not a bishop of Chicago like the 3(?) Orthodox bishops of Chicago (we have more, but the others have their titular sees elsewhere).

According to your Ecumenical Patriarch, His All-Holiness Bartholomew, Benedict XVI is "His Beatitude, the Bishop of Rome." Not "layman of the Vatican", as you would prefer to call him. If you have a problem with that, take it up with His All-Holiness, not with me.  Smiley
If he calls him "the" or even "a" "bishop of Rome in his diptychs, history has shown that I will by far not be the only one taking it up with him.

And now, having signed the Chambesy accord, His All-Holiness recognizes HG+Siluan Spam as having his see at Rome.
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Christ is ascended!
I know that according to the Orthodox diptychs of the Catholic Church, he is not, but he is a bishop of Rome, if we are going to use that title for all ecclesiastical communities. Like we call the Episcopalian bishop of Chicago "a bishop of Chicago." Just not a bishop of Chicago like the 3(?) Orthodox bishops of Chicago (we have more, but the others have their titular sees elsewhere).

According to your Ecumenical Patriarch, His All-Holiness Bartholomew, Benedict XVI is "His Beatitude, the Bishop of Rome." Not "layman of the Vatican", as you would prefer to call him. If you have a problem with that, take it up with His All-Holiness, not with me.  Smiley
He's not infallible, so they can throw out anything he says whenever what he says is inconvenient.  Wink
If His All Holiness commemorates your supreme Pontiff, His All Holiness is who will be thrown out.

So, are you admiting that you believe everything your supreme pontiff says is infallible?

Btw, I do believe that HAH refers to Rowan Williams as Archbishop of Canterbury, but if Abp. Rowan was received into Orthodoxy, it would be as a layman.
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Why is Belarus WTF?
Belarus is the most pro-Vatican of the Orthodox states. In a couple of years we might even have a concordat with the Republic of Belarus.
I don't understand the connexion between "Teutonia" and Lithuania (?)
The Teutonic Order controlled most of that territory at its height.
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« Reply #33 on: June 11, 2011, 01:58:13 PM »

I know that according to the Orthodox diptychs of the Catholic Church, he is not, but he is a bishop of Rome, if we are going to use that title for all ecclesiastical communities. Like we call the Episcopalian bishop of Chicago "a bishop of Chicago." Just not a bishop of Chicago like the 3(?) Orthodox bishops of Chicago (we have more, but the others have their titular sees elsewhere).

According to your Ecumenical Patriarch, His All-Holiness Bartholomew, Benedict XVI is "His Beatitude, the Bishop of Rome." Not "layman of the Vatican", as you would prefer to call him. If you have a problem with that, take it up with His All-Holiness, not with me.  Smiley
He's not infallible, so they can throw out anything he says whenever what he says is inconvenient.  Wink

Given that he is leader of only a small percentage of Orthodox Christians, what he says, though valuable, is not the final word.

An interesting comment you make though, your pope is supposedly infallible yet Catholics are always throwing out anything he says that is inconvenient.
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I know that according to the Orthodox diptychs of the Catholic Church, he is not, but he is a bishop of Rome, if we are going to use that title for all ecclesiastical communities. Like we call the Episcopalian bishop of Chicago "a bishop of Chicago." Just not a bishop of Chicago like the 3(?) Orthodox bishops of Chicago (we have more, but the others have their titular sees elsewhere).

According to your Ecumenical Patriarch, His All-Holiness Bartholomew, Benedict XVI is "His Beatitude, the Bishop of Rome." Not "layman of the Vatican", as you would prefer to call him. If you have a problem with that, take it up with His All-Holiness, not with me.  Smiley
He's not infallible, so they can throw out anything he says whenever what he says is inconvenient.  Wink

Given that he is leader of only a small percentage of Orthodox Christians, what he says, though valuable, is not the final word.

An interesting comment you make though, your pope is supposedly infallible yet Catholics are always throwing out anything he says that is inconvenient.
Shhh!  We are not supposed to notice that, much less bring it up!
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« Reply #35 on: June 11, 2011, 04:21:20 PM »

I know that according to the Orthodox diptychs of the Catholic Church, he is not, but he is a bishop of Rome, if we are going to use that title for all ecclesiastical communities. Like we call the Episcopalian bishop of Chicago "a bishop of Chicago." Just not a bishop of Chicago like the 3(?) Orthodox bishops of Chicago (we have more, but the others have their titular sees elsewhere).

You perfectly know that I don't mean Benedict XVI but Bishops Silvanus who is a Bishop of Italy that resides in Rome.
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« Reply #36 on: June 11, 2011, 05:45:49 PM »

Sigh x 3. We can't even have a good chuckle without the usual crap being thrown about by the usual suspects of all sides.
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« Reply #37 on: June 11, 2011, 06:01:32 PM »

If he calls him "the" or even "a" "bishop of Rome in his diptychs, history has shown that I will by far not be the only one taking it up with him.

When I read this, I was going to post "Well, I guess I really should stop calling Rowan Williams "the Archbishop of Canterbury". But then I discovered that had already been brought up:

Btw, I do believe that HAH refers to Rowan Williams as Archbishop of Canterbury, but if Abp. Rowan was received into Orthodoxy, it would be as a layman.

I think there a lesson in all this ... I had it a moment ago ... something about "not being" or "so rigid" or something. Hold on, I'll remember it in a minute ...
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« Reply #38 on: June 11, 2011, 06:07:58 PM »

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I know that according to the Orthodox diptychs of the Catholic Church, he is not, but he is a bishop of Rome, if we are going to use that title for all ecclesiastical communities. Like we call the Episcopalian bishop of Chicago "a bishop of Chicago." Just not a bishop of Chicago like the 3(?) Orthodox bishops of Chicago (we have more, but the others have their titular sees elsewhere).

You perfectly know that I don't mean Benedict XVI but Bishops Silvanus who is a Bishop of Italy that resides in Rome.
The sovereign of Vatican City Benedict XVI claims to be Metropolitan of Italy (supposedly that's the middle tier of the tiara).  Bishop Siluan has his see in Rome.
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« Reply #39 on: June 11, 2011, 06:11:40 PM »

...but if Abp. Rowan was received into Orthodoxy, it would be as a layman.

Why would this be, if others are allowed to make guided transitions into the clergy?  Would it be a formality?
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« Reply #40 on: June 11, 2011, 06:42:14 PM »

...but if Abp. Rowan was received into Orthodoxy, it would be as a layman.

Why would this be, if others are allowed to make guided transitions into the clergy?  Would it be a formality?
Given that he's married, he couldn't be accepted as a bishop. Those who knowledgable are quite often ordained immediatly after chrismation, but he would likely be received as a layman, even if he was ordained immediatly after.
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« Reply #41 on: June 11, 2011, 07:38:54 PM »

^ Right.  So it would be a formality.  I'm not implying that formalities have no meaning, but it's not as if his time in the laity would be substantial (or much over 24hrs).
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« Reply #42 on: June 11, 2011, 08:15:54 PM »

Proud citizen and subject of the Papal States!

Long live our sovereign, the Bishop of Rome!




Nice Photoshop. Ratzinger would never wear the tiara. He's a modernist.
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Proud citizen and subject of the Papal States Vatican!

Long live our sovereign, the Bishop of Rome!

Many years! La multi ani!


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« Reply #44 on: June 11, 2011, 08:20:03 PM »

As to the original post funny stuff.
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